Recent stuffery!

squirrelhunter17

Recent Classwork.
A blue vase that looks like a bunny (I hated this painting, except the apple)


Grey DeLisle in the oil-rub technique that I learned in media class.


And the pencil sharpener I did for my single-object still-life assignment.


And Recent Personal Work
I did the bottom0right in this OC session


Wan Shi Tong, from Avatar: The Last Airbender.


Suki, also from Avatar.


and a dragon I did for fun. Notice the clearly photoshopped colors.


Tell me what you think! (also, I realize that I made Suki's hands too small, and the one nude figure rather disproportionate)

Rankenphile

squirrelhunter17 wrote:

Grey DeLisle in the oil-rub technique that I learned in media class.

stunning

squirrelhunter17

Rankenphile wrote:

stunning

Thank you.

Just so you know...When quoting an image, its best to take off the

Greatnation

your still life/painting skills are mad impressive.


However, your figures suffer in lots of areas, including the face. But seeing as you "know" how to observe things from life, the best thing you can do to solve this problem is to draw figures from life. Draw your freinds, sign up for a class, get family member to pose for you. Srsly, it helps tons and you've got the hardest part down already. And after you draw people from life over and over, you can start looking at different ways to break down the figure, so you can recreate it without a model.

Prospicience

I like the paintings.
A couple things though, on the first one, the vase thingy to the right on the picture. Was the top round or was it actually a pinched oval shape like you painted? And I guess the second thing is the little painting you did in OC. It doesn't look like she has a left shoulder and her boobies are a little off as well. Otherwise :^: I like the avatar stuff you did.

Edit: I think you may have made her chest too high now that I look at it.

squirrelhunter17

Greatnation wrote:

your still life/painting skills are mad impressive.


However, your figures suffer in lots of areas, including the face. But seeing as you "know" how to observe things from life, the best thing you can do to solve this problem is to draw figures from life. Draw your freinds, sign up for a class, get family member to pose for you. Srsly, it helps tons and you've got the hardest part down already. And after you draw people from life over and over, you can start looking at different ways to break down the figure, so you can recreate it without a model.

Im already in figure class, its just that my skills in proportion are bad (also, some of these arent so recent.)

squirrelhunter17

Prospicience wrote:

I like the paintings.
A couple things though, on the first one, the vase thingy to the right on the picture. Was the top round or was it actually a pinched oval shape like you painted? And I guess the second thing is the little painting you did in OC. It doesn't look like she has a left shoulder and her boobies are a little off as well. Otherwise :^: I like the avatar stuff you did.

Edit: I think you may have made her chest too high now that I look at it.

No, the top was round, I just painted it badly....because of my undying hate for that damned blue bunny. I like how the apple came out though.

As for the figure....her shoulder is bad and her head is too small.

Greatnation

You should try to post some more recent figure drawings. What about proportions are you struggling with? Are you familiar with the head system? Do you do standing poses where proportions are readily available or seated where sometimes they are hidden, or both?


I know you arent "trying" to give excuses, just time and time again the "these arent my most recent" thing makes me cringe. Why post old shit? Come now, we can help.

squirrelhunter17

I know you guys can help, but none of my drawings for class are readily available... I might have a few more.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/42060944/
http://www.deviantart.com/view/42061410/

sorry for the devart links, but the images are on a school computer because I lack a large scanner.

Mai-Kero

You are fantastic. And Wan Shi Tong is awesome.

squirrelhunter17

A raven for my acrylic assignment in media class.

Fieryhexey

That Raven is amazing, I am really impressed with it's smooth texture.

squirrelhunter17

thank you ^__^

squirrelhunter17

Did these in pastel for my media class.

about 1 hr each.

Axim

textures are great on all the paintings

i've gotta laugh though ive been meaning to do a sketch of that owl from avatar myself, it was such a cool/fucked up looking character..

squirrelhunter17

Yeah, Wan Shi Tong kicks ass

Grim Outlook

wow avatar stuff..and i thought i was the only one who watched that show..season finale last night

anyways, great stuff

i like the dragon and crow the best..

lilchingch0ng

i dig the raven, its pretty tite. you did a good job on the eye and the lighting on the feathers is pretty good. Your anatomy is a bit off however, and the feathers look like they are all coming from behind the eye, as if it were some kind of a...feather...thumbtack...

squirrelhunter17

I think its the direction of the feathers thats creating that effect.

squirrelhunter17

From figure class today, she has tiger stripes tatooed on her bum, quite sexy. =p

paulwind

squirrelhunter17 wrote:

she has tiger stripes tatooed on her bum, quite sexy. =p

"sexy" shouldn't really be a part of art... although i've actually seen a couple girls in my figure drawing classes give our male models their phone numbers...

squirrelhunter17

its not a bad thing if the model is sexy. it doesnt affect how im going to draw.

wakkawa

I really like those last two. Though I think more care could have been taken with the background of the second.

also, sexy really should be a part of art.

squirrelhunter17

wakkawa wrote:

I really like those last two. Though I think more care could have been taken with the background of the second.

also, sexy really should be a part of art.

Yeah, there couldve been more. but Im not a sketch god like you are, Jace(sp?)

and of course you would think sexy should be a part of art =p

paulwind

i mean, that's my opinion. i've seen your work, wakkawa, and there is a level of sexiness, but the fact is that the work is beautiful, and that's the focus. it's just funny to me when people see someone very beautiful in a work of art, and they say "wow, she's hot."

edit: but in retrospect, you're not saying that... you're saying that the model has a sexy tattoo. but i agree, that tattoo does sound sexy.

squirrelhunter17

well, the tatoo wouldnt be sexy on someone that wasnt sexy...

the model was sexy, but again, that didnt affect my ability to draw her. Well it kinda did, her proportions were easy to see.

paulwind

squirrelhunter17 wrote:

her proportions were easy to see.

hahaha ...yeah. we had this very shapely model in one of my classes a while back... it was difficult, especially because i was drawing her back, which was basically just a flat plane.

squirrelhunter17

^ some anime skinsuit sexiness

NightDragon

Her arms/hands/fingers/nose are freakishly thin, and her eyes are huuuge.

squirrelhunter17

NightDragon wrote:

Her arms/hands/fingers/nose are freakishly thin, and her eyes are huuuge.

ANIME skinsuit sexiness.

Virum

squirrelhunter17 wrote:

NightDragon wrote:

Her arms/hands/fingers/nose are freakishly thin, and her eyes are huuuge.

ANIME skinsuit sexiness.

Anime doesn't excuse shit anatomy.

squirrelhunter17

Virum wrote:

squirrelhunter17 wrote:

ANIME skinsuit sexiness.

Anime doesn't excuse shit anatomy.

Explains it rather well tho.

NightDragon

squirrelhunter17 wrote:

NightDragon wrote:

Her arms/hands/fingers/nose are freakishly thin, and her eyes are huuuge.

ANIME skinsuit sexiness.

Right. Well, anime characters still don't have arms that thin, unless it's within style with the rest of the body. The rest of your figure seems to be rather shapely, though, and so the arms really stick out as being over-thin. And the nose (despite it being "anime", yes)...And the reason why I mentioned the eyes was because it looks like you drew them in a normal, lemon-shaped way (what realistic eyes typically look like)...and they, along with the rest of the body, doesn't really seem to convey "anime" to me, so they stick out as being too large.


The forearm is also longer than the upper arm...and I'm not entirely sure where the far-arm connects on the torso, because at it's current bending-angle at the elbow, it should be connecting to her ribs.

squirrelhunter17

NightDragon wrote:

Right. Well, anime characters still don't have arms that thin, unless it's within style with the rest of the body. The rest of your figure seems to be rather shapely, though, and so the arms really stick out as being over-thin. And the nose (despite it being "anime", yes)...And the reason why I mentioned the eyes was because it looks like you drew them in a normal, lemon-shaped way (what realistic eyes typically look like)...and they, along with the rest of the body, doesn't really seem to convey "anime" to me, so they stick out as being too large.


The forearm is also longer than the upper arm...and I'm not entirely sure where the far-arm connects on the torso, because at it's current bending-angle at the elbow, it should be connecting to her ribs.

That would be a comment that I wouldnt have been an ass about.

NightDragon

squirrelhunter17 wrote:

NightDragon wrote:

Right. Well, anime characters still don't have arms that thin, unless it's within style with the rest of the body. The rest of your figure seems to be rather shapely, though, and so the arms really stick out as being over-thin. And the nose (despite it being "anime", yes)...And the reason why I mentioned the eyes was because it looks like you drew them in a normal, lemon-shaped way (what realistic eyes typically look like)...and they, along with the rest of the body, doesn't really seem to convey "anime" to me, so they stick out as being too large.


The forearm is also longer than the upper arm...and I'm not entirely sure where the far-arm connects on the torso, because at it's current bending-angle at the elbow, it should be connecting to her ribs.

That would be a comment that I wouldnt have been an ass about.

I really don't see why you had to be an ass to begin with, but I digress. Moving on.

squirrelhunter17

NightDragon wrote:

squirrelhunter17 wrote:

That would be a comment that I wouldnt have been an ass about.

I really don't see why you had to be an ass to begin with, but I digress. Moving on.

pointing out flaws in art without elaborating presents a lack of respect towards the creator, and towards art in general. I feel the need to be an ass about it.

Virum

Or, you know, you could be nice and ask for clarification.

Just a thought.

("Without elaborating" to me means "This sucks" and nothing more.)

NightDragon

squirrelhunter17 wrote:

pointing out flaws in art without elaborating presents a lack of respect towards the creator, and towards art in general. I feel the need to be an ass about it.

Well, I feel that in a lot of cases, if the artist has the ability to understand my critiques when I give them in a concise manner, no elaboration is necessary.

And I really didn't feel that any elaboration was necessary. [Insert body parts] are too thin. What else would there be to say?

You reiterated the fact that it was "ANIME", and seemed to think that this validated your case. I still believed the anatomy was wrong, regardless, so I elaborated, seeing as how you hadn't understood the context of my critiques.

I have a great deal of respect for art, and for artists, and I have a great deal of respect for your paintings [which are very very good], and what seem to be attempts to improve your art. I do not think you're a bad artist. I was not insulting you. I was critiquing your work. I didn't think elaboration was necessary at the time of the initial post. But you clearly seem to be lacking understanding in anatomy, and so I tried to help you with that. It's honorable that you're posting things and seem to be making an effort towards improvement concerning that, so I'd hope that in the future you're not so quick to jump down my throat just because I didn't elaborate initially, when I didn't consider it to be a required procedure to begin with.

Thanks.

squirrelhunter17

Virum wrote:

Or, you know, you could be nice and ask for clarification.

Just a thought.

("Without elaborating" to me means "This sucks" and nothing more.)

Ive gotten to many bad critiques to actually care to be nice about them anymore.

squirrelhunter17

NightDragon wrote:

Well, I feel that in a lot of cases, if the artist has the ability to understand my critiques when I give them in a concise manner, no elaboration is necessary.

And I really didn't feel that any elaboration was necessary. [Insert body parts] are too thin. What else would there be to say?

You reiterated the fact that it was "ANIME", and seemed to think that this validated your case. I still believed the anatomy was wrong, regardless, so I elaborated, seeing as how you hadn't understood the context of my critiques.

I have a great deal of respect for art, and for artists, and I have a great deal of respect for your paintings [which are very very good], and what seem to be attempts to improve your art. I do not think you're a bad artist. I was not insulting you. I was critiquing your work. I didn't think elaboration was necessary at the time of the initial post. But you clearly seem to be lacking understanding in anatomy, and so I tried to help you with that. It's honorable that you're posting things and seem to be making an effort towards improvement concerning that, so I'd hope that in the future you're not so quick to jump down my throat just because I didn't elaborate initially, when I didn't consider it to be a required procedure to begin with.

Thanks.

I understood perfectly. But shit critiques piss me off to no end.

When I give critiques, I give good ones. I expect no less from others.

NightDragon

squirrelhunter17 wrote:

I understood perfectly. But shit critiques piss me off to no end.

When I give critiques, I give good ones. I expect no less from others.

If you understood it perfectly when I was brief, then there really was no need for me to elaborate, was there? And because no elaboration was necessary, I guess the critique was fine as it was, because you "got it" and I wasn't being an asshole telling you "it sucks" for no reason? Or at all? And therefore, it was a good critique? Which means, you shouldn't have "been an ass" with me to begin with?

Oh shi-


You thought I was wrong, though, because you replied that it was ANIME, which you wrote to validate my critiques to begin with...though, this proves you really didn't "get" my critiques, because you blew them off, when some of them are, I believe, entirely valid - her arms ARE too thin, for a perfect example.

Oh shi-


Oh well. I'll be sure not to post any more critiques, because apparently if they don't contain superfluous elaboration, they're "shit".

Although, I guess no matter what, you're still going to lash out at any critiques you don't particularly agree with, because

Ive gotten to many bad critiques to actually care to be nice about them anymore.

Oh shi-


Goodnight.