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They should totally do that!
It would be awesome!
powerpuppies: I need to re-watch that movie.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Edit: Call me puppies or pp. The full handle looks weird to me.
Except that if the feds believe or can prove that your intent was to create chaos, then you go to prison. You've revealed yourself and placed the authorities on high alert... for what? To shut down an airport for one damn day? Yeah, that's really terrifying.
Some guy tried to blow up his fucking shoes in mid-flight. What stopped him from being successful? He was afraid he couldn't sneak a lighter through security, so he had to try and use matches, which he couldn't get to light.
It is the fear of discovery that prevents most of these lunatics from taking action. Not because they're afraid of prison or death, but because if discovered then they can't actually do any damage. Security cameras are not a deterrent, but security personnel most certainly are, at least until somebody accuses them of being the boy who cried "wolf."
To everyone who thinks this is "funny" or "stupid": If there had been a bomb, not necessarily a pipe-bomb but an explosive of some type capable of doing some damage or spreading a chemical or biological agent, and security noticed it but ignored it, and somebody did die, would you let security off the hook? Say it wasn't their fault, and they did the right thing by ignoring the clearly labeled, if very unusual threat?
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YES
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Yes. Security should not penalize somebody for such a sticker. It does not increase our safety. Anyone who could hurt people if security ignores stickers could hurt people anyway, by not using stickers.
I contend that in practice, a bike with a sticker on it claiming it is a pipe bomb is no more likely to be a pipe bomb than a green bike. If a stickered bike exploded and killed people, I would blame security exactly as much as if it was an unstickered green bike. So should you.
I kept on meaning to watch it, now I can for free on blu-ray!
Also Cillian Murphy.
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Let's say I'm a terrorist who lives a clearly labeled bomb in an airport.
What would my objective be?
Obviously not to kill the optimum number of people, as it would be more efficient to leave the bomb unlabeled.
The only sensible motivation I would have for doing so would be to alert the authorities, resulting in a major disruption of the activities of the airport and costing who knows how much money to the airport, airlines, and air travelers. And I might be able to utilize a possible side effect of distracting the authorities from a real, unmarked bomb I might leave in an evacuation area.
In other words, had that actually been a bomb, then the authorities did exactly what the terrorists wanted them to. So... the terrorists won?
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
No such thing, that's what coffee is for.
Yeah I know what you mean, I have such conflicting tastes of music with my highschool friends though I seem to have a lot more in common with my university friends.
So screw highschool friends. 8-)
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Well sounds like someone's good and terrorised.
The point is that the disruption that is the intent of earnest terrorist action was caused anyway by something completely innocent, which seems to be becoming more and more common. More common than actual terrorist action, even. I'd be more sympathetic to your point of view if there was anything else suspicious about the situation, but there wasn't. It was an overreaction.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Oh god, I'm so tired. I got up at like seven thirty and haven't really done anything all day, but can barely keep my head up. I might actually be in bed before twelve.
Not right now you don't.
best cookies ever made.
But what if the bike has proximity-sensors or a dog-detector rigged to the detonator?
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Need shower...
I'm pretty sure I asked for pecan sandies.
We clearly need to ban both bicycles and dogs.
We have that already
it's called Taco Bell
Dog = Level 1 Bomb Detector
Jack Bauer = Level 2 Bomb Detector
Admiral Ackbar = Level 3 Bomb Detector
Peppy Hare = Level 4 Bomb Detector
It's quiet ... too quiet.
BE CAREFUL IT'S A TRAP.
THERE'S NO TIME!
Then they'll just put the proximity-sensors on unicycle-bombs instead. We won't be safe until we make proximity a felony.
Or even treat it like any other suspicious package by removing it, isolating it, and investigating without disrupting the operation of the airport.
Try a somersault.
Do a barrel roll!
Yeah, exactly.
When you start shutting down major services and quarantining off public or semi-public areas over things which might be but probably aren't bombs, the Terrorists Have Won.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
:winky:
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