[Mini-Phalla]Phallic Nebula: GAME OVER [Evil Victory]

Andrew Ryan

You guys failed SO HARD!

Tommy2Hands

What the fuck guys?

jackisreal

Man. In one day and out the next. Well, as one who mostly observed, I must say the speediness of the narration was pretty awesome.

Now: Mechanics pleaaaase?

Dac Vin

It has to be repeated:


The village did not hit a SINGLE bad guy over something like a good week.

So it's not like we didn't deserve that.

enlightenedbum

We suspected three pirates, and got all three right. MacGuffin was next on my list if there was a fourth. So woooo.

Also was pretty sure Kay was the last Galac-Tekker so we failed miserably on that guess.

Proboards here:

http://mafiainspaaaaaace.proboards.com/index.cgi

enlightenedbum

Also, we didn't really get to do anything cool. We could subvert people so they voted the way a majority of our members did. Spork and Fiaryn were subverted, but the pirates kept killing our subversions.

Tomorrow I was going to reveal and basically say I could control the vote if one pirate would join me just so something fun would happen in the thread.

Worship your amazon/insect monster overlords. :P

Andrew Ryan

Role info:

Colonist

Andrew Ryan wrote:

A Colonial Delegate

You have been chosen to represent your colony here at the P.N.C.A. Conference. It's a heavy responsibility but fortunately you need not bear it alone. You remain in constant contact with your colony thanks to a satellite relay provided by Galac-Tek Industries. Indeed without the support of your colony behind you thanks to your satellite communication you would lose all authority to remain a delegate.

The Conference has graciaously been allowed to take place in the orbital palace of the Order of Dasaji. It is rather handsomely decorated, no doubt a reflection of their recent martial success.

Lavish though the location is, the arrangement would not be possible without the level headed thinking of the Delta Psi Cooperative. As the organizers of the conference they take great pride in seeing colonial delegates such as yourself in attendance.

These three groups represent the majority of political power in the Phallic nebula, should the delegates of 2 of these 3 groups be unable to remain at the conference it would surely be a failure, incapable of resolving any lasting peace, leaving the nebula to once more plunge into chaos.

Delta Psi

Andrew Ryan wrote:

You are also a member of the Delta Psi Cooperative

As organizers of the conference you know that if you are to ensure lasting peace, these negotiations must go as smoothly as possible. However there is a certain element within the Nebula that does not wish to see such a peaceful end.

These sinister individuals are known as The Consortium. A secret criminal organization that operates in the shadows of the colonies. If they were to successfully undermine these procedings the repricussions could be felt for decades.

The Delta Psi delegates Dac Vin, Obbi and jackisreal must ensure that any agents of the consortium are rooted out before they subvert the conference.

Order of Dasaji

Andrew Ryan wrote:

You are also a member of The Order of Dasaji

As the leading arm of military might in the nebula you are loathe to easily allow mere words to rest power from your hands. However, though lengthy and successful wars have made you powerful and rich they have come at a terrible cost to your people and so it is time to seek peace.

There are those who profitted from your military success that have no care for honor or the suffering of man. They know nothing of the ways of war only the ways of control and subjegation.

These sinister individuals are known as The Consortium. A secret criminal organization that operates in the shadows of the colonies. If they were to successfully undermine these procedings the repricussions could be felt for decades.

The Dasaji delegates The_reflection, kuhlmeye, and Orange Soda must ensure that any agents of the consortium are rooted out before they subvert the conference.

Galac-Tek

Andrew Ryan wrote:

You are also a member of Galac-Tek Industries

As the leading technological and manufacturing giant of the nebula you have graciously provided a system of satellite relays to allow the delegates to remain in contact with their colonies. However, you have heard unsettling rumors of certain unsavory elements developing technology to co-opt these satellites for their own purposes.

These sinister individuals are known as The Consortium. A secret criminal organization that operates in the shadows of the colonies. If they were to successfully undermine these procedings the repricussions could be felt for decades.

The Galac-Tek delegates Wildcat, Fiaryn, WildPanthA05, and TehSloth must ensure that any agents of the consortium are rooted out before they subvert the conference.

Thankfully if a satellite relay were damaged it's possible as long as Galac-Tek delegates remain at the conference to repair the damage and return the relay to full working order.

The Consortium

Andrew Ryan wrote:

You are really a member of The Consortium

You are the true power in this nebula and the formation of a colonial alliance would be, shall we say, inconvenient. You must not allow such a formal organization to rest power away from the criminal element you have worked so hard to subjegate.

The consortium members Daius, Keika, Arasaki, Witch Doctor DBM, and enlightenedbum must work behind the scenes to bring this conference to its knees and return the nebula to the kind of chaos that you can control.

Each night, The Consortium may !subvert a colonial delegate's satellite relay, distorting the frequency into a duplicate of their own satellite's transmission. The technology is however rather inelegant and will simply broadcast the loudest signal, adding the subverted relay's vote to which ever vote carries a majority among the Consortium. If no clear majority exists the subverted satellite's signal will be too weak to broadcast and the vote will simply be lost.

The more satellites that are subverted the more obvious this method will become and be warned, as long as Galac-tek employees are in attendance in the conference there is a chance they may notice their hardware tampered with and repair it.

Pirates

Andrew Ryan wrote:

You are really a Space Pirate

Fie to all this namby pamby negotiation. The stars are untamed and wild and you'll be damned if a bunch of "educated" fops will take the stars from you.

As pirates Macguffin and Abotkin may each target a colony to !Plunder each night. Take their riches and burn the rest to cinder, that's the pirate way.

You've heard rumblings and scuttlebutt among the crew that a Collonial Fleet is forming to hunt the likes of you, but it's you who'll do the hunting. If you're able to get the drop on them first you'll be able to seize their precious ships to your own villianous ends.

Colonial Fleet

Andrew Ryan wrote:

You are also a member of the Colonial Armada

Unbeknownst to the other delegates, you have been hidden among their ranks as a security measure. Even with the major political forces sitting down at the table of peace there are still rogue elements within the nebula that could be a danger to the conference.

These lawless individuals are known as Space Pirates. A band of rogue and stolen ships bent on plunder and mayhem.

You cannot allow these procedings to be disrupted by the likes of scum such as that. However due to the sensitive nature of the negotiations you have strict instructions not to act unless a delegate from the @ is attacked.

jackisreal

Suspected both EBs, other than that I had no idea. Where were our vig/seer/guardian?

ahava

As one who was watching...

WOW guys.

I loved the roleplaying y'all did. Was pretty awesome.

Also, I was nowhere close to guessing any of the badguys.

Andrew Ryan

lonelyahava wrote: »

As one who was watching...

WOW guys.

I loved the roleplaying y'all did. Was pretty awesome.

Also, I was nowhere close to guessing any of the badguys.

You and the rest of the thread.

jackisreal

Did Delta Psi get any powers when they got the chairmanship?

ahava

Andrew Ryan wrote: »

lonelyahava wrote: »

As one who was watching...

WOW guys.

I loved the roleplaying y'all did. Was pretty awesome.

Also, I was nowhere close to guessing any of the badguys.

You and the rest of the thread.

But see.. that's the thing.

I wasn't playing!

So my guesses didn't matter!

Therefore, I'm cooler.

Andrew Ryan

jackisreal wrote: »

Suspected both EBs, other than that I had no idea. Where were our vig/seer/guardian?

Gumpy
Element Brian
Ultros64

These three were Colonial Armada members. Each one was assigned to a faction, once that faction lost a member they became activated. Once active they became a vig/seer/guardian.

They could chose to outfit their ship however they wanted and continue to use that ability each night, however if they wanted to change ability they had to go one night without using any.

enlightenedbum

So a question to the pirates: had one of us Consortium revealed would you have trusted us? We could have ended this thing way sooner.

Andrew Ryan

On Day 3 all 3 mason groups recieved special bonus powers. Galac-Tek wern't told theirs but it was to become immune to subversions. Fiaryn receieved a message when he got hit by an attempt on night 5.

Andrew Ryan wrote:

Attention The Order of Dasaji delegates


In the face of the threat to negotiations, the high command of The Order of Dasaji has deemed it necessary to place at your disposal a sum of §36,000,000 to be used in... "negotiating" an additional colony to join the order.

The delegates of The Order of Dasaji must determine who they will offer this "incentive" to to recruit them into the order. Be warned however, if your target is a member of the dreaded Consortium they may well accept your bribe without changing their true allegience. Only unaffiliated colonies will be swayed by this amount of money, it is unlikely to sway members of either the Galac-Tek industries or the Delta Psi Cooperative and the high command is not likely to issue another.

Simply PM your !Bribe target when you've made your choice but remember, you only have enough for one bribe, decide carefully.

Andrew Ryan wrote:

Attention Delta Psi Cooperative delegates.

As organizers of the conference you know how best to run it, it is only fitting therefor that you hold the chair. If a member of the Delta Psi Cooperative holds the position of Chairman they will recieve additional powers over the conference (Thanks to your extensive knowledge of parlimentry procedure) that a layman would not.

In order to facilitate this rise to power, the Delta Psi Cooperative may decide to call a !Vote of No Confidence in the current chairman, thus removing him from office without the untimely event of his death.

Be warned however, this vote will suspend the rules of the day for the following day in order to elect a new Chairman. It is unlikely that the conference will permit this kind of political grandstanding more than once however, meaning you will only be able to remove One chairman from office this way, once used, the !Vote of No Confidence will be rendered ineffective for all future chairmen.

When you have determined that you must oust the current chairman simply PM your !Vote of No Confidence and the conference will hold a new election the following day.

The Delta Psi wern't told what their extra special power was until Dac Vin got elected. The power was the ability to name a successor to the chair. Meaning, if he got killed, rather than needing a new election who ever he named would simply take the chair automatically. Each subsequent chairman afterwards would be able to also name a successor, after all if he could do it anyone could, if they had known it was allowed.

abotkin

I just have to say this: I'm awesome. Good job to MacGuffin as well, but I converted both of those Colonial Fleet captains and hit the guy we needed to hit tonight to end it. I'm just that good.

And there was no luck involved in that whatsoever, no sirree.

It was almost purely luck.

Anywho, good game everyone! Thanks for hosting it AR! I had a blast from the start, but hell, I got to be a Space Pirate! How can you go wrong with that?

jackisreal

Cooool. Well, great job Pirates!

enlightenedbum

So mechanics wise I think there were some issues with this game and since I think you said you were using it as a test run for things you wanted to try in your main I feel like I should comment:

1) The Consortium was an interesting idea, but I feel like for us to have really mattered we needed a way to be more sure we were really making a difference without revealing ourselves as being really suspicious. As it was, I think playing more like a true neutral and just trying to avoid Pirate kills was our best move. Maybe revealing and claiming neutrality would have been something to try, but the specials all would have known we were full of shit.

2) Making the specials not active from the start AND convertible if the baddies hit them is...um...ouch. Granted, the village should have figured out the Consortium at least from our save of me (you'll note that Arasaki and Keika voted to save me right at the end) from vote patterns, but it's hard to set up a decent network.

Andrew Ryan

Oh. Here's my official Game Host Google Doc's SpreadSheet™

Okay..

So..

Man. What the hell.. seriously.. Was it just that poorly balanced? You guys got DECIMATED

Andrew Ryan

enlightenedbum wrote: »

So mechanics wise I think there were some issues with this game and since I think you said you were using it as a test run for things you wanted to try in your main I feel like I should comment:

1) The Consortium was an interesting idea, but I feel like for us to have really mattered we needed a way to be more sure we were really making a difference without revealing ourselves as being really suspicious. As it was, I think playing more like a true neutral and just trying to avoid Pirate kills was our best move. Maybe revealing and claiming neutrality would have been something to try, but the specials all would have known we were full of shit.

2) Making the specials not active from the start AND convertible if the baddies hit them is...um...ouch. Granted, the village should have figured out the Consortium at least from our save of me (you'll note that Arasaki and Keika voted to save me right at the end) from vote patterns, but it's hard to set up a decent network.

1. Well in this game it was as if the standard "Mafia" was split in two. The Kill, and the Vote manipulation. The Consortium represented the large group of informed evils plotting and shenaniganning the votes. The Pirates were brute force, they started with only 2 members and I didn't consider the statistical odds that more than 1 special would be hit by a conversion to be signifigant, but... then 2 were and they voted out the 3rd. So.. Whoops.

2. I made them soft start and convertable to counter the trend I've seen of "Vig Reveal Leaders" that I've seen as a trend in games, one vig calls his kill and remains a network leader for the rest of the game until his guard is killed. The problem here was the vig could call his kill day one then the other 3 could all switch to guards and form an invincible little trifecta.

A lot of the balance in this game was based on checks and balances like that.

Dac Vin

Andrew Ryan wrote: »

Oh. Here's my official Game Host Google Doc's SpreadSheetâ„¢

Okay..

So..

Man. What the hell.. seriously.. Was it just that poorly balanced? You guys got DECIMATED

Do you HONESTLY need to twist the knife further? Apart from the convertable specials and the weaksauce chairman power (Public vote null plus I get to choose my successor! ...err what?), I think the issue here is more us being completly fucktarded than you.

Andrew Ryan

The weak chairman power was because in my initial write up for this mini the chairman didn't do ANYTHING it was just a distraction. A secret "Day 0" when in people get to see vote trends and patterns to base the first kill vote on without it costing anyone the chance to play the game because of grudges.

It also gave people the chance to get into their roles before the shit hit the fan and accusations started flying.

This outerspace theme is actually a metaphor for the workings of the immune system.

enlightenedbum

Andrew Ryan wrote: »

enlightenedbum wrote: »

So mechanics wise I think there were some issues with this game and since I think you said you were using it as a test run for things you wanted to try in your main I feel like I should comment:

1) The Consortium was an interesting idea, but I feel like for us to have really mattered we needed a way to be more sure we were really making a difference without revealing ourselves as being really suspicious. As it was, I think playing more like a true neutral and just trying to avoid Pirate kills was our best move. Maybe revealing and claiming neutrality would have been something to try, but the specials all would have known we were full of shit.

2) Making the specials not active from the start AND convertible if the baddies hit them is...um...ouch. Granted, the village should have figured out the Consortium at least from our save of me (you'll note that Arasaki and Keika voted to save me right at the end) from vote patterns, but it's hard to set up a decent network.

1. Well in this game it was as if the standard "Mafia" was split in two. The Kill, and the Vote manipulation. The Consortium represented the large group of informed evils plotting and shenaniganning the votes. The Pirates were brute force, they started with only 2 members and I didn't consider the statistical odds that more than 1 special would be hit by a conversion to be signifigant, but... then 2 were and they voted out the 3rd. So.. Whoops.

2. I made them soft start and convertable to counter the trend I've seen of "Vig Reveal Leaders" that I've seen as a trend in games, one vig calls his kill and remains a network leader for the rest of the game until his guard is killed. The problem here was the vig could call his kill day one then the other 3 could all switch to guards and form an invincible little trifecta.

A lot of the balance in this game was based on checks and balances like that.

That's more people not continuing to play the game after the vig reveal, which sometimes happens I think. Like what I think happened to you in the WoW Phalla and Ultros/especially Dac Vin here was everyone was waiting around for the leader to proclaim someone as evil and then just sat and watched. Which is not a good strategy for the village and I think it's easier to see that as a baddie.

enlightenedbum

I should also note that there was one thing you did that was really awesome, which was the required planet naming. Games where lots of people are role playing are more entertaining. I said this on our proboards, but I give Spectral Spork the award for my single favorite post in this thread (the initial one about Spork worship). Also, Fiaryn's angry all caps thing was a wonderful disguise.

ahava

God, Fiaryn's all caps was the most annoying thing in the entire game.

Ultros was, by far, the awesome.

At least, one Day One

SpectralSpork

Only surviving villager T.T

enlightenedbum

SpectralSpork wrote: »

Only surviving villager T.T

We were hoping to keep you alive because the Spork amused us. I'm hoping the Pirate logic was similar.

SpectralSpork

Indeed as it should, for the Spork is mighty. Amusing that is.

jackisreal

Andrew Ryan wrote: »

The weak chairman power was because in my initial write up for this mini the chairman didn't do ANYTHING it was just a distraction. A secret "Day 0" when in people get to see vote trends and patterns to base the first kill vote on without it costing anyone the chance to play the game because of grudges.

It also gave people the chance to get into their roles before the shit hit the fan and accusations started flying.

This outerspace theme is actually a metaphor for the workings of the immune system.

^This is a really cool idea.

The convertable specials, I don't know. To help the village more, maybe define the consortium/pirate split more and just have pirate votes not actually count?

ahava

So... would anything have happened if the Pirates found the Consortium, or vice versa? Like with Botkin's conversion?

enlightenedbum

We knew of nothing that would happen, and since they were the only one to hit any of us...

stupid pirates.

Andrew Ryan

The Pirates could kill the consortium

and the consortium could subvert the pirates vote.

If they succeeded in meeting up.. they'd.. uh.. win. Almost definately.

Both sides had ENOURMAS potential to dominate the game if they networked successfully. Which was why the pirates needed network breaking powers. IE the convert.

ahava

hmmmm

I have this weird thing with groups of baddies, or just groups of players in general, having to find another group and then getting a nifty keen ability.

I'll have to work on this idea. I had something like it in Narnia... I should try to expand on that.

abotkin

I think the game was relatively well balanced, it just didn't work out in favor of the village this time. Only having 2 pirates out of 30 people put us pirates in a very precarious position. We had to absolutely fly under the radar, because if even just one of us had died, it would have cut the mafia's power down by half. Having the villager specials be convertable gave the pirates some hope that things weren't quite as bad as they seemed at first.

I think this game just came down to amazing accuracy on my part (again, mostly luck) and the village not catching either myself or MacGuffin. Had you guys hit one of us, especially early game, it would have changed the entire game.

Toxic Toys

Damn, we got spanked this game. Good job Andrew. I thought your game was broken until I read all the behind the scean stuff. Good job.

Fiaryn

Yeah that was all our fault. With three Mason groups of four, there is no excuse at all for us killing NO ONE.

I tried to hang in there, for Galac-Tek

Andrew Ryan

Thank you, I really had fun running this. I'm definately up for more hosting in the future.

I think I started to get a little .. uh.. silly with my narrations after the first few nights.

Edit: Once again, I really loved all the roleplaying. Anyone who I thought was being exceptionally fun I tried to give a nod in narration.

enlightenedbum

The Ultros voted out narration was glorious, but I couldn't find a way to comment on it in character.

SpectralSpork

Agreed, loved it.

enlightenedbum

I was tempted to put a little pirate hat on this new avatar.

Also, I was so hoping to say: "Arrrr, Gentlemen the vote is ours." and reveal as a Klackon mob member tomorrow. I'm really bummed that it ended tonight.