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I really fucked up

Dr SanchezDr Sanchez Registered User regular
edited March 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
On my way to see watchmen with a couple of friends.
I was driving, it was about a 15-20 minute journey.
On a roundabout I pull out, didn't see a car coming round on my right.
The car had to swerve to avoid me, if they didn't I would've rammed straight into it.
You guessed it. It was a police car.

It's all pretty standard from here. They pull me over when I exit the junction and I'm pretty calm at this point because I just don't believe what is happening. Policeman pulls the door open, he's pissed off, I didn't expect that. Tells me to switch the engine off and step out of the car. The reason I didn't see him was because there was three of us in the car, the windows steamed up pretty quick. I looked when I hit that roundabout I just didn't see the car until it swerved out the way.

He tells me off, I'm overly apologetic and explain to him that I just didn't see the car because of the steamed up windows. He tells me to sit in the police car, where the driver then also explains how close the collision was. They take my details, tell me my rights and tell me the three counts of what I did wrong.

-Driving without due care and attention
-Wreck less driving (I think)
-Something else

I was so spaced out and shaken I just wasn't taking in what they were saying, just agreed, apologized and apologized more. They said they were going to give me a 3 for 1 deal and record one of the counts. Can't think which one it was, they may as well have been speaking Latin by this point, my brain just wasn't taking in information.

They then tell me they're not going to arrest me, I heard that part. I'll get a letter at some point, might be a summons. They then told me to go. Got back in the car and left.

My first experience with the Police. I passed my driving test December 1st last year so I'm new. I'm not making excuses but I looked, and I definitely didn't see that car. This whole thing is a combo of massive stupidity on my part and unbelievably bad luck.

I've just finally got over my years of depression, now this. I feel crushed. Not just by what happened and what may happen. If I lose my license, fine. That will suck but I'll get over it. But the fact that I could have just crashed into a police car? That will haunt me forever.

Thoughts? On not just what will come of this but I think of myself as a relatively intelligent person. I don't know how I'm going to stop beating myself up over what happened and what could have happened thanks to how I fucked up so badly.


TL;DR, I almost hit a police car.

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  • DragonPupDragonPup Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Where do you live?

    By roundabout, do you mean a rotary?

    And if I am reading this correctly, you were exiting the roundabout/rotary and the cop was entering it, correct?

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  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    Dr Sanchez wrote: »
    But the fact that I could have just crashed into a police car? That will haunt me forever.

    My first thought is to tell you to get the right fuck over this promptly. There's no reason to get hung up on hypotheticals to they point it haunts you forever! You made a mistake most likely due to your inexperience as a driver, and it sounds like the cop may have have been an overreacting dick, but it's certainly not worth busting your own balls over for the rest of your days.

    Learn from your mistake and do your best not to repeat it. Don't let it get on top of you to the point you're upsetting yourself over things that didn't actually happen.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    DragonPup wrote: »
    Where do you live?

    By roundabout, do you mean a rotary?

    And if I am reading this correctly, you were exiting the roundabout/rotary and the cop was entering it, correct?

    Yeah we're gonna need some super awesome MSPaint diagram here. I was a little confused too, but if the cop was coming INTO the rotary and you were trying to EXIT....this could get interesting.

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  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    I assumed he meant a roundabout...
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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I don't really understand the logistics of what happened, but I can say this.

    I can practically guarantee those officers were purposely trying to scare and berate you as much as they possibly could so that they etch this into your memory and you'll never forget to be more careful.

    Take care of the court thing, and try to see the positive that you will probably be a much more aware driver in and around roundabouts now.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Stepped in it Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Dr Sanchez wrote: »
    -Wreck less driving (I think)
    Wreck-less driving would be a good thing. You're thinking of 'reckless.'

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  • illigillig Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Reckless driving is serious business... it can result in heavy fines, imprisonment, and/or loss of license in many states (i assume you're in the US.... i could be wrong)

    If that's what you got hit with, you'll probably need to go to court, and you'll want a lawyer to represent you

    I got one in NJ as a teenager, and i got assigned a public defender due to the severity of the ticket

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  • DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You may end up losing your points off your license or whatever, but don't let this bother you too much. Every inexperienced driver makes mistakes; you were "lucky" enough to screwed up right in front of a cop. Just be thankful it wasn't worse; I had to total my first vehicle before I learned to pay attention to what I was doing, and I was very fortunate that I wasn't badly injured in the process.

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited March 2009
    You are lucky. You should feel blessed. You didn't actually hit anyone, and no one got hurt. It is the tough experiences that build you up, and with this particular lesson, you learned to be more careful when driving without having to pay out money for car repairs or endangering others. There's no point in mulling over the details and replaying the incident in your mind. If you are doing so, you'll need to seek help (and not on online forums).

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    http://imgur.com/4VNGX.jpg

    This is my guess of what happened. See diagram.

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  • saint2esaint2e Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I'm guessing he's in the UK, so here's what I envision happened.

    my.php?image=roundabout.jpg

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    saint2e wrote: »
    I'm guessing he's in the UK, so here's what I envision happened.

    my.php?image=roundabout.jpg

    Oh good call. In that case shouldn't the cop car have been in the inside lane, until coming towards the outside to exit the roundabout?

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  • NotYouNotYou Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You'll be fine. I expect you'll get a fine, and worse case, you get your liscence taken away. Just do the whole court thing (SHOW UP ON TIME), and tell the truth.

    I hit several cars learning how to drive before I got became safe...

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  • saint2esaint2e Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Topia wrote: »
    saint2e wrote: »
    I'm guessing he's in the UK, so here's what I envision happened.

    my.php?image=roundabout.jpg

    Oh good call. In that case shouldn't the cop car have been in the inside lane, until coming towards the outside to exit the roundabout?

    Possibly was a single lane roundabout? OP can clarify. it's beside the point though.

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  • Dr SanchezDr Sanchez Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Not in the U.S. I live in England.

    I spent ages doing a four part MS paint diagram, saint2e's beat me and got it right.

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Actually he says in the ops that he pulls out of the roundabout when this happens... And since the cop was on his right, it wouldn't make sense if he was in the UK.
    On a roundabout I pull out, didn't see a car coming round on my right.

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  • Dr SanchezDr Sanchez Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Pull in, sorry, didn't explain it very well. It was a two lane roundabout. See saint2e's MSPaint.

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    God I hate being jailed. Okay yes I see now it makes sense. I read your diagram wrong.

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  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    They had you at "I couldn't see because of my steamy windows." Excuses never work with the police--in this case, why didn't you just roll them down? Or wipe them off? Or let the car idle before driving it, so the defogger has a chance to work?

    Regardless, they're letting you off easy and making it sound more serious than it is so that you'll never do it again. It's the "Scared Straight" method, and you'll be fine.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I'm just curious here... you almost hit a cop, mistakes happen, no one was hurt, I get that.

    He yanked open the door?

    I mean, that seems really excessive. As in "holy shit, a cop in the U.S. would be in deep shit" excessive. Is this normal protocol in the UK? Did the cop knock on the window, and you not open it? That seems like it would panic someone more than the accident, and could have led to worse problems.

    Maybe I'm going on a tangent here, but can you clarify this part?

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Look, you had a close call, just don't do it again. And by don't do it again, I mean don't go driving around with shit visibility in your car. Turn on the defrost, open all the windows, whatever you have to do, but driving around with windows you can't see out of is, as you found out, really dangerous.

    Don't freak out too much, but live and learn from this. You did something dumb but got away with a relatively minor consequence so far, considering the things that could have happened. So, from here on its all about how you handle this.

    Firstly, you should probably find out exactly what you're being charged with, that should be on the ticket the cop gave you (I don't know what UK driving laws are like, but I assume the cop gives you a ticket or something), but if you don't understand it or its not clear, there should be a number on there you can call for more information. If you don't have anything, whatever the Brit equivalent of the Department of Motor Vehicles is should have a website that explains who to contact and get more information.

    Secondly, instead of freaking out over what happened, focus on the positives here. You made a mistake, but you didn't kill yourself, your friends, or the police officer. Count your blessings, as it were, and commit to being more responsible in the future.

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  • Zombie NirvanaZombie Nirvana Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You didn't hit a cop car. You'll have to pay some money. Then you're going to move on with your life. Not a big deal, move on.

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Dr Sanchez wrote: »
    Pull in, sorry, didn't explain it very well. It was a two lane roundabout. See saint2e's MSPaint.

    Ummmmm.

    To be honest with you, I'd be surprised if you even get a letter. And if you do, you won't actually have anything serious happen to you.

    You will definitely not lose your license and you may at the very most get three points and a £60 fine. The cop is being an arse, the chance of someone being hurt there is minimal and when accidents happen someone is liable and the insurance companies sort payment. Here you didn't even hit him, and the fact that this was a first time incident for you will also count.

    Seriously don't worry, cops are absolute dicks too sometimes.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You nearly hit a police car and then you didn't

    this will not haunt you

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You can only get in so much trouble for a near miss. For future reference, if your windows start to fog up you should pull over to the side of the road if possible, and if not possible roll down all windows regardless of whether or not it's cold out and get over as soon as you can.

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  • EskimoDaveEskimoDave Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Stop having sex in the car while you're driving and it won't fog up.

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  • HeartlashHeartlash Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You didn't hit a cop car. You'll have to pay some money. Then you're going to move on with your life. Not a big deal, move on.

    Limed. In a few months you won't even remember it beyond the point of minor inconvienance. It was an accident, and not even that costly of one.

    The cop was being a dick, but they do that to young drivers on purpose. Don't take it personally.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Well, I hope you don't completely forget about it. Don't go neurotic over it, but take the lesson to heart.

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  • DibsDibs Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Did you receive a ticket?

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You nearly hit a police car and then you didn't

    this will not haunt you

    In all honesty, despite how fucked up it feels now, it'll probably be an amusing anecdote you tell for years to come once everything is sorted out and you stop feeling so terrible. Someone will mention how unlucky they are and you'll be able to top them with "Oh you won't believe this shit that happened! The first time I fucked up and it was a police officer who I did it to!"

    I had a similar situation happen to me back in the day.
    When I was starting to drive I had a foggy window situation that climaxed with me introducing my driver's side headlight to the tire of an in-motion semi truck after driving with my head out the window. (Not my most dignified moment). The semi driver obviously didn't notice and kept going, so I did too, thankful I wasn't fucking dead. My friend in the car then pointed out that there was a cop behind me. So now, not only am I driving a fogged up car, hanging my head out the window like a retard, I've now also left the scene of an accident with a police officer observing the whole thing.

    Luck would have it that he didn't actually see me strike the semi, a trick of the perspective he was viewing at. He however was not impressed with the way I was driving before that. So I get a ticket, and go about my day knowing that I've got to explain to a judge why I was driving like a moron.

    The next day, the principal pokes his head into choir class asking to see me down in the office. He mentions that there are two fucking detectives here to see me. It was a small town, I didn't know we even had detectives, and I guess if we did they wouldn't have much to do. They might as well go razzle the kid who hit a semi.

    So I'm visibally fucking nervous, I think I was probably shaking. I know I was sweating. They show me their badges and say "We assume you know what this is about?"

    "What happened yesterday?"

    "... what happened yesterday?"

    They lean forward with interest.

    I, as calmly as possible, state the exact thing I was cited for. "Clear view to the front"

    They start laughing like it was the funniest joke they'd ever heard. "Oh no you're not in any trouble. We're here about that [Person] Homicide case."

    A dude in my town had allegedly killed his parents 4 months earlier. I do not know this person. If he was sitting beside me right now, I wouldn't know it was him. They had just gotten my name from someone else who knew someone else and my name was mentioned at some point in their testimony, so they wanted to see if I had any further info for their case, and could confirm any details of other's testimony.

    It was a fucked up couple of days.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I actually did hit a cop car. Well, the personal car of an off-duty cop who was coming back with his partner from bagpipe practice. A week after I got my license. I got a ticket that got plead down to something minor, the cop was really cool about it (sorry yours was a dick) and now I have an amusing story of how I totaled my car and a cop's car while the cops were in skirts. Trust me, you'll get over it after you've had time to take care of the ticket and calm down.

    The cop actually ended up being the cop who responded when someone tried to mug me a year later, after I gave my name he knew it sounded familiar and I recognized him. That actually made that situation pretty funny too.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You nearly hit a police car and then you didn't

    this will not haunt you

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    This is why roundabouts are a terrible design decision for any road.

    Seriously, who the fuck came up with those.

    Learn from your near-accident, and be glad you don't have to learn from a REAL accident.

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  • variantvariant Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    They're letting you off pretty easy, you'll have to pony up a couple hundred dollars in court, that's all. Might get a point on your license, which can probably removed with traffic school.
    Try and push the court date as far back as you can so that the cop has cooled down a bit.

    Shake it off and just be more attentive when driving.

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I once almost hit a cop car, too (my idiot father decided to teach me to drive on icy roads, at night...in conditions I told him I never would drive in anyway, hands down...it was slick as HELL, and there were very few cars on the roads anyway, because it was so horrible out).

    Long story short, I came to a stop light at the top of a very small hill....pushed on the gas just lightly enough to get the car over the crest....and then applied the brakes, which started going into anti-lock mode, and did absolutely nothing to slow me down. Guess what vehicle was at the bottom of this hill, sitting at a red light?

    I swerved at the last second, and coasted smoothly onto the sidewalk, missing his car and a lamppost by inches in either side.

    It was incredibly nerve-racking (especially from being such a close call, as was yours, apparently)...luckily the cop didn't think anything of it, and just left once the light turned green...but I couldn't get over it for a few days.

    In the end, though, you didn't cause any damage whatsoever, and it doesn't look like your punishment is going to be too severe. Relax! It was a small incident. Sorry the cop was such a jerk. That's probably a good part of why you're worrying about the situation so much, I'd guess. If it was just a civilian car, and nobody screamed at you about it, I would guess you'd be thinking about this a little more calmly.

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  • Jake!Jake! Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    This is just to add to the, 'it isn't a big deal' brigade. Given the way the policeman reacted, I wouldn't feel too bad, because

    a) he was being an arse and;
    b) if you'd ever been seriously in danger of hitting each other you'd be writing after a night in a cell.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the police car was driving too fast anyway.

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  • RotamRotam Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    This is why roundabouts are a terrible design decision for any road.

    Seriously, who the fuck came up with those.

    Learn from your near-accident, and be glad you don't have to learn from a REAL accident.

    Roundabouts are fucking awful because they are reliant on people indicating left and right properly. Whoever designed them seemed to have a lot of faith in their fellow kind.

    You're a very inexperienced driver and things like this are to be expected. I still remember the (many) retarded things that I did when I first passed my driving test. But as MuddBudd and a lot of other people in this thread said, you learn from it and get better.

    I would like to think that this was just scare tactics. And even if you are brought before a court, they would be pretty lenient as this is small time compared to the seriousness of other traffic offenses.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I don't live in England, but what you did is something that happens all the time. Dumbshits are always making right turns into traffic. Your problems were that you

    1) did it more egregiously that usual, it seems, and

    2) you had the misfortune to cut off a cop.

    Unless you were entering the roundabout at high speed or something, I don't see how this is reckless driving (unless the UK has a radically different definition of reckless driving than the US does.) Probably you will get a ticket in the mail and will have to pay a fine and/or appear in court to tell a judge how sorry you are about the whole thing.

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  • illigillig Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Dr Sanchez wrote: »
    Not in the U.S. I live in England.

    I spent ages doing a four part MS paint diagram, saint2e's beat me and got it right.

    wait, saint2e's diagram is right?

    IMHO then it's the cops fault... the drivers on the circle ALWAYS have right of way in the US... check the laws for the UK

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