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Fuck my job, help me find a new one

RiusRius Globex CEONobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
edited March 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I work in IT, specifically hardware and software deployment to local and field users, as well as asset management and policy. I also am responsible for all PC hardware warranty issues at over 200 field offices.

I USED to like my job. Now there is this guy who piles on endless amounts of bullshit on our department because his department is too retarded to do their jobs. Or something like that. So I have this particular process that has worked excellently for months and I need to change it because this guy is incompetent. Now that process is going to take three times as long, and when it does take three times as long, he's going to complain that we're not doing it fast enough. This is the kind of guy who will go over your head by three layers for even the simplest of requests.

I am paid hourly, my co-worker is paid salary. I work a full week, every week, he typically works 33-35 hours. Continued complaints on this issue to my boss have gone basically unheard.

My boss is a pantywaist and does not fight on these issues, so we wind up having to do other people's jobs and I wind up having to do half of my co-worker's job. So now I want a new job.

Can anyone point me to a good resume template or how-to-write-one website? My resume is full of office assistant and data entry jobs, and I need to write a new one that talks about my last two years at this job and all the IT experience I've gained, as well as the certifications I've gotten.

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    EtelmikEtelmik Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Not to be a dick, but are IT jobs even available in your area?

    And if you're really lazy and money is no issue, a couple hundred bucks will get you a smoking resume by a pro resume writer. In the world of jobs, as with anything else, using money will get you more money.

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    necroSYSnecroSYS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    Now is not a good time to be looking for a new job.

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    saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    necroSYS wrote: »
    Now is not a good time to be looking for a new job.
    This. Now is a good time to keep the job you have especially if you're one of the newest hires in your company.

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    mullymully Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    i just went to a recruiter this morning and was told the same thing you're being told here by these fine people -- if you have a job, no matter how dumped-on you may be -- keep it for now. there will be a time for movement, but now is not that time.

    and it sounds like you're in the same situation at me. so i feel your pain, buddy. completely feelin' it.

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I can't stand it here anymore. I literally cannot stand working with a worthless co-worker and having endless amounts of additional shit shoveled on me every week, and endless amounts of complaints when things invariably get missed.

    It's a shame that otherwise this would be the perfect job for me.

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    Evil_ReaverEvil_Reaver Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I hear you, dude. I work in IT for a university and the amount of bullshit that gets shoveled on to my department is outstanding. I learned long ago that Information Technology is not a field you want to work in if you don't want to be shit on from every direction every single minute you are in the building.

    Seriously, though, you need to stick it out. You will be a sad panda if you leave this job because you will not be working again for 8-9 months. Yes, the economy is *that* bad.

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    chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I just managed to switch jobs in the IT field 3 months ago. The jobs are out there, you just have to be a little more careful about looking. Don't even let on that you are unhappy until you have a start date at the new place.

    Never hired a resume writer before, so I don't know how they work, but I have a hard time believing that it is worth several hundred dollars.

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    mullymully Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    recruiters will help you rewrite your resume. find one of those guys and have a nice long conversation with em.

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    Evil_ReaverEvil_Reaver Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Don't even let on that you are unhappy until you have a start date at the new place.

    This. Absolutely this.

    Make sure you have a start date for a new job before you leave your current company (that is, if you're going to leave). You DO NOT want to get fired right now without having something to fall back on.

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    necroSYSnecroSYS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    Also realize that your employers know that now is not a good time to be looking for a job, so they're going to be less receptive or caring to your needs. The ones that are bastards are going to feel more comfortable being bastards.

    You just have to suck it up and deal with it. Eventually, the scales will swing back the other way.

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    Indica1Indica1 Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    There is no reason that you need to quit to look for a new job. I don't really know what these people are talking about. It will be hard to find somebody who is hiring, but that doesnt mean you don't try.

    If you can't find a new job, you lose nothing except a bit of your time.

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    The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Rius wrote: »
    I can't stand it here anymore. I literally cannot stand working with a worthless co-worker and having endless amounts of additional shit shoveled on me every week, and endless amounts of complaints when things invariably get missed.

    It's a shame that otherwise this would be the perfect job for me.

    Are your complaints in writing? Are they valid and backed up by easily available information? If not, then there's no surprise that they're being ignored. I cannot say this enough, but cover your ass. Buy a tiny little notebook and record every instance of your unfair treatment. Every time your co-worker dumps a project on you, write it down, etc.

    Look for another job, if you get hired, then great. Otherwise you're lucky to be drawing a paycheck. Not that that gives anyone a right to dump their crap on you, but being able to eat and keep a roof over your head are some of those things that are wicked rad, you know?

    Best of luck.

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    Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I said the same thing a month or two ago and now I'm jobless and can't find one. Keep your job

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    CreepyCreepy Tucson, AzRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    FWIW we're hiring 2 IT positions

    AV Guy/Desktop

    Desktop Support

    It can be a crazy place to work sometimes but I have been there 13 years.

    https://www.tmcaz.com/?q=WorkingAtTMC/Employment_App

    Desktop Computing Analyst is one of the positions. Oddly enough I don't see the AV guy one up anymore. Not sure why.

    Don't move to Tucson lightly. Jobs are not hard to come by. Good paying jobs ARE REALLY hard to come by. Other than that it's great.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Could you expand upon how he's dumping workload on you?

    We may be able to help there. IE if it's a project assigned to him you could flat out deny to even look at it and go "Nope that's yours, we already have enough work, but if I finish my stuff I may come give you help but not do it for you." And of course, I'm assuming you have a full work day and this guy doesn't, you'll finish first.

    If your boss assigns stuff to you then you do it.
    If your coworker assigns stuff to you, you laugh at them and keep doing what you're doing and ignore it.

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    ShadowrunnerShadowrunner Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    If you're unhappy with your job, it doesn't hurt to work on your resume and possibly float it around to see what kinds of jobs are out there, but I don't quit your current job until you get a new one lined up.

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    SaltytehpirateSaltytehpirate Registered User new member
    edited March 2009
    Yea, I'm sort of having the same problem at my job, the guy I work with is a lazy pile of shit. They literally hired me to do his job for him...I've been working here for 2 years in May and I question why they don't let this guy go. I could walk into his office right now and can guarantee that he will be sleeping... The VP of the company walked in on him sleeping and all they did was suspend him for 3 days! It's so god damn aggravating..

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    mully wrote: »
    i just went to a recruiter this morning and was told the same thing you're being told here by these fine people -- if you have a job, no matter how dumped-on you may be -- keep it for now. there will be a time for movement, but now is not that time.

    Why exactly is this? Is it just because it's difficult to find a job just now?

    Or is there a specific danger in starting a new job at this point in time?

    I mean, job hunting seems low risk if you are currently employed. Don't find a new job? Hey-ho, you've still got a job at least. Do find a new job? Great, right?

    Seems like it would always be better to be job hunting while you do have a job then when you don't. For example, I know a couple of people who work in the financial sector and it seems to be the accepted advice to find a new job now because it's a lot harder to find a job once you've been made redundant.

    What am I missing here?

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    It's hard to find work in some areas due to "ZOMG RECESSION." Most rural places are completely unaffected, larger cities tend not to be.

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    Sure, but that doesn't seem to be a good reason not to switch jobs if you do find one. I mean, it's not like you have to quit your current job before starting to find a new one.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Yup exactly. Jobs where you need a degree, and aren't measly markets to begin with, tend to be unaffected too. So writers and artists tend to have a horrible time, but other degreed professionals can probably get a job with ease compared to Joe Schmoe at Burger King.

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    The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    mully wrote: »
    i just went to a recruiter this morning and was told the same thing you're being told here by these fine people -- if you have a job, no matter how dumped-on you may be -- keep it for now. there will be a time for movement, but now is not that time.

    Why exactly is this? Is it just because it's difficult to find a job just now?

    Or is there a specific danger in starting a new job at this point in time?

    I mean, job hunting seems low risk if you are currently employed. Don't find a new job? Hey-ho, you've still got a job at least. Do find a new job? Great, right?

    Seems like it would always be better to be job hunting while you do have a job then when you don't. For example, I know a couple of people who work in the financial sector and it seems to be the accepted advice to find a new job now because it's a lot harder to find a job once you've been made redundant.

    What am I missing here?

    I think the recruiter is stating that right now, it's dangerous to be on the low-end of the totem pole. With companies slashing budgets and layoffs becoming a common and frequent danger, if you have any seniority where you are you'll be "safer" from suddenly losing your job due to budget cuts.

    To a certain extent, this is correct for those of us who are lower down on the food chain. If your edge versus Mr. Newish Hire is experience, you most likely want to keep that edge instead of trading it in for an extra few thousand a year. This is not a blanket statement, though. Finance has seen a huge shift in their department make-up. Most loan servicers, these days, have ballooned the size of their collections and loss mitigation departments. These are not jobs that will stay after the recession, and finding something more stable would be a boon to job security.

    Every situation is different, but there is wisdom in sticking put in many situations.

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    So if the guy is hating his job then it would be an absolutely fine idea to start looking around then?

    Edit: Oh, ok, I guess starting new at some other place is one risk, if that place shortly after decides it has to make cut-backs. Noobs are going to be the first to go normally (although companies cutting the expensive heads and dumping more workload on the cheaper noobs isn't unheard of).

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    vintagegamervintagegamer Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    necroSYS wrote: »
    Now is not a good time to be looking for a new job.


    +1

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    yea, I hate my job, but right now I'm just happy to have one. Just live with what you have until there are actually opportunities to get new jobs.

    When you have 700 people applying for a Janitors job at a school in Ohio, just be happy with what you have.

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    mellestadmellestad Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Looking for a job never hurts, just don't quit this one until you have something else solid. Besides, IT is actually not being hit that hard by this stuff yet, and is still showing growth.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Not many fields are being hit by it. At all. Growth is growth, it may not be $texas, but it's better than -$france.

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    mellestad wrote: »
    Looking for a job never hurts, just don't quit this one until you have something else solid. Besides, IT is actually not being hit that hard by this stuff yet, and is still showing growth.

    I dunno, i have a friend who's been trying for about 5 months to find an IT job, you're getting IT managers applying for sysadmin jobs, and sysadmins applying for support jobs, and support guys out of luck.

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    truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Don't know what area the OP is in, but every single person I know has had cut-backs and lay-offs at their places of employment. It is really visible that everyone is preparing for the major meltdown. Whether it happens or not is yet to be seen, but I've already seen and know too many people losing their jobs and unable to find anything else yet.

    I would think it crazy to try for a new job at this time.

    this is just in the greater New York City area though.

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    OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    wunderbar wrote: »
    mellestad wrote: »
    Looking for a job never hurts, just don't quit this one until you have something else solid. Besides, IT is actually not being hit that hard by this stuff yet, and is still showing growth.

    I dunno, i have a friend who's been trying for about 5 months to find an IT job, you're getting IT managers applying for sysadmin jobs, and sysadmins applying for support jobs, and support guys out of luck.

    In theory it doesn't hurt to look, though.

    In practice, it can be difficult to go interviewing discreetly, and there are a fair number of wildly unprofessional people who will casually tell anyone who will listen that so-and-so was in for an interview, and more than enough dick managers who will find some way to fire employees they think are looking -- sometimes word gets around. I don't think I've yet worked with an HR flak who understood the concept of discretion. So I do think there's some risk, possibly depending on the area and industry involved.

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    vintagegamervintagegamer Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    mellestad wrote: »
    Looking for a job never hurts, just don't quit this one until you have something else solid.


    This is really what I was agreeing with more than my last post here- I was out of work last year for 6 mos, after my employer of almost 10 years decided to start cutting everyone who was on the payroll with pensions. It wasn't unique to that employer, but it really threw me for a loop.

    While unemployed I sent resumes almost every day for 6 mos. After about 3 mos I got an interview, and the interviewer very rudely asked me "well what have you been doing for the PAST 3 MONTHS THEN?". Sounded like some young punk who had not yet experienced what can happen in the real world, but man I was seriously offended by that. They made it sound like I'd just been sitting around living off the system and loving life. I'm sure people are doing that, but I wasn't one of them.

    The oddest part is, the unemployment rate was nowhere NEAR what it is now. So, for folks looking for new work, like the prior poster said, just make sure you have something 100% before you go making any changes. It's a really bad time right now for the unemployed. :(

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