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Nintendo raises prices in the UK

LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
edited March 2009 in Games and Technology
Nintendo has confirmed to MCV that it is to increase the trade price of its Wii console for UK retailers, a move that could lead to the console’s price rising on the UK High Street.

However, retail will decide whether the machine's current £179.99 price point sticks, or whether consumers face paying more for the machine in the future.

MCV understands that retailers are being told that trade prices for Wii will increase by around £16.50, or around £19 including VAT. As a result retailers face making virtually no money on each machine sold if they stick to current pricing.

“Due to the severe and continuing depreciation of the pound, we are, unfortunately, having to raise our trade price to UK retailers of Wii hardware,” a Nintendo UK spokesperson told MCV.

“The price that they then offer to consumers is, of course, up to the retailers. We are only – reluctantly – raising our trade price now to retailers due to unprecedented and sustained depreciation of the pound. This is a problem brought about by extreme currency fluctuations that are a symptom of the global economic situation.”

The move puts increasing pressure on UK indies, who will face the choice of swallowing the sharp drop in profit per machine or upping their prices – something that national retailers and supermarkets are unlikely to do.

The move follows similar price hikes from the likes of Apple and Dell.

Also:
Nintendo has not ruled out a rise in prices for new software releases in the UK, due to the depreciation of the pound.

Although trade prices for titles currently on the market will not change, there is a possibility of new releases being hit with a price hike.

"The final price in the shops is always up to retailers but we will not be increasing the trade price of existing Wii or DS software," offered Nintendo.

"However, the trade prices for new titles yet to be released may rise as a result of the depreciation of the pound."

Wii hardware trade prices are already set to rise in the UK, "due to unprecedented and sustained depreciation of the pound," said Nintendo.

However, the DSi – due for release early next month – and the current DS model, will not be affected, said the company.

"The present exchange rate was taken into consideration when we announced the trade price of DSi to retailers across Europe."

"At this time, we do not expect to have to change the trade price we charge to retailers for the DSi or DS price in the UK in the foreseeable future."

I think, now that my Wii is region free via homebrew, I will be importing more Wii games.

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  • BarneyLBarneyL Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Anyone have any idea what it costs to build a Wii? MS and Sony have both cut console prices because they claim it costs less to make them now than it did two years ago. You'd think that the same would be true for the Wii but given it's about to become more expensive than a 360 elite maybe I'm wrong.
    Perhaps Nintendo has the momentum to get away with this but it's going to be a tough sell for Joe public who wanders in to Game, sees the Wii now gives a penny change from £200 and the games cost whatever they are being increased to (already £39.99 for pretty much all new releases in my local store). How many are going to "settle" for the cheaper xbox 360 now?

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    BarneyL wrote: »
    Anyone have any idea what it costs to build a Wii? MS and Sony have both cut console prices because they claim it costs less to make them now than it did two years ago. You'd think that the same would be true for the Wii but given it's about to become more expensive than a 360 elite maybe I'm wrong.
    Perhaps Nintendo has the momentum to get away with this but it's going to be a tough sell for Joe public who wanders in to Game, sees the Wii now gives a penny change from £200 and the games cost whatever they are being increased to (already £39.99 for pretty much all new releases in my local store). How many are going to "settle" for the cheaper xbox 360 now?

    I seem to remember people speculating that the Wii cost less than £150 to produce at launch. I would not be surprised if it was sub-£100 now.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I am honestly glad that I already have the console, and my local indy store knocks a fiver off most prices.

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  • KylogueKylogue Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Well, in the end they're not raising the price... We're just getting paid less(even though we receive the same amount of paper).

    I don't understand why they don't increase the price of the DS.

    Do we know when these prices are taking effect? I was thinking of being a cool uncle and offer a Wii to my nephews.

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  • FALCONPUNCH231FALCONPUNCH231 Registered User new member
    edited March 2009
    I realy dont see why they would raise the prices.I would really exspect them to lower sense its been out so long.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Kylogue wrote: »
    I don't understand why they don't increase the price of the DS.

    Nintendo probably expects the DSi to fully replace the DS eventually, and the DSi's already priced with consideration to the weak pound.

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  • Lave IILave II Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    So a console I bought at release in Xmas 2007 (?) may well cost more now in 2009 than it did then.

    Wow.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    First the DSi, now this. Nintendo's greed knows no bounds!

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Kylogue wrote: »
    Well, in the end they're not raising the price... We're just getting paid less(even though we receive the same amount of paper).

    I don't understand why they don't increase the price of the DS.

    Do we know when these prices are taking effect? I was thinking of being a cool uncle and offer a Wii to my nephews.

    Haha, I got one for my nephews on launch day. I'm a cooler uncle. Nyah.

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I'm gonna be flamed for this, but I see no problems with the move
    The supplier will charge what the market will bear
    Nintendo is in the business of making money, not being great people, so if they want to sell it for more they can, and should, being that that's profit maximization
    I'm indifferent

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  • CampionCampion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Weak pound, console price not actually increasing, poor people shouldn't buy electronics anyway.

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  • KylogueKylogue Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Willeth wrote: »
    Kylogue wrote: »
    Well, in the end they're not raising the price... We're just getting paid less(even though we receive the same amount of paper).

    I don't understand why they don't increase the price of the DS.

    Do we know when these prices are taking effect? I was thinking of being a cool uncle and offer a Wii to my nephews.

    Haha, I got one for my nephews on launch day. I'm a cooler uncle. Nyah.

    Man...

    Screw you! I'm paying more for their Wii than what you paid at launch... So yeah... Take that! :|

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Nintendo won't get away with charging more for games. They'#re already only worth half their price in most cases. Obviously they haven't learned their lesson about greed yet.

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  • CampionCampion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Nintendo won't get away with charging more for games. They'#re already only worth half their price in most cases. Obviously they haven't learned their lesson about greed yet.

    What are you, some sort of Sat-AM cartoon hero? "You won't get away with this, your greed shall be your undoing!"

    They can't keep the price the same if the pound isn't as valuable.

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  • MumblyfishMumblyfish Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I can't profess to know much about the world economy, but hasn't the US Dollar just gone through a six-year period (if memory serves) of decline? I know that the Euro went from being significantly weaker than the dollar to stomping its shit in that period. Since significant currency decline isn't limited to the pound, why is Britain the only country being targeted for a price hike?

    Well, obviously it is because Nintendo has a long-running history of hating these shores, but entertain me with some answers.

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    They should just charge in whatever currency they want to use, like Yen. Then when Europe has to pay for it in Pounds, and the depreciation of the Pound makes the conversion into Yen higher, Nintendo Fans will put the blame in the right place.

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  • epictunaepictuna Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Campion wrote: »
    Nintendo won't get away with charging more for games. They'#re already only worth half their price in most cases. Obviously they haven't learned their lesson about greed yet.

    What are you, some sort of Sat-AM cartoon hero? "You won't get away with this, your greed shall be your undoing!"

    They can't keep the price the same if the pound isn't as valuable.

    :lol:

    Nintendo will charge what they know they can get. If they ask for a few extra bucks, odds are they'll get it. People want their product badly enough that they'll cringe at a slight price increase and yet still set their wallets on the table. It's basic economics.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    epictuna wrote: »
    Campion wrote: »
    Nintendo won't get away with charging more for games. They'#re already only worth half their price in most cases. Obviously they haven't learned their lesson about greed yet.

    What are you, some sort of Sat-AM cartoon hero? "You won't get away with this, your greed shall be your undoing!"

    They can't keep the price the same if the pound isn't as valuable.

    :lol:

    Nintendo will charge what they know they can get. If they ask for a few extra bucks, odds are they'll get it. People want their product badly enough that they'll cringe at a slight price increase and yet still set their wallets on the table. It's basic economics.
    The price hike is imposed on retailers, not consumers. It ultimately comes down to whether retailers want to increase the price or settle with a lower profit margin.

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  • ItalaxItalax Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Doesn't this make the Wii more expensive than the 360 Elite now? At least if they add the £19 onto Amazon's prices which I can't really see happening.

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  • KylogueKylogue Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Mumblyfish wrote: »
    I can't profess to know much about the world economy, but hasn't the US Dollar just gone through a six-year period (if memory serves) of decline? I know that the Euro went from being significantly weaker than the dollar to stomping its shit in that period. Since significant currency decline isn't limited to the pound, why is Britain the only country being targeted for a price hike?

    Well, obviously it is because Nintendo has a long-running history of hating these shores, but entertain me with some answers.

    Not sure but the pound took quite the blow these past months. At least when compared to the euro...
    Google wrote:
    Currently
    1 British pound = 1.08162149 Euros
    While...
    on September 20th last year
    1 British pound = 1.28692 Euros

    If you compare it to the rest of europe... In the UK we still get cheaper Wiis. 200 pounds = 216.32~ euros

    Amazon.de lists a Wii costing 238,95 euros.


    What's my point? I dunno...

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I've been thinking about selling my Wii a lot recently, maybe this move will help drive up used sales and prices a bit too.

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  • TigTig Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    to be fair to Nintendo, they're clearly not making enough money right now

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  • CampionCampion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Uh oh, a business is successful, get Robin Hood in here, because they're clearly ne'er-do-wells!

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  • GanluanGanluan Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Campion wrote: »
    Nintendo won't get away with charging more for games. They'#re already only worth half their price in most cases. Obviously they haven't learned their lesson about greed yet.

    What are you, some sort of Sat-AM cartoon hero? "You won't get away with this, your greed shall be your undoing!"

    They can't keep the price the same if the pound isn't as valuable.

    Don't worry about it, if it was Sony raising their merchant pricing he'd be on board.

    I doubt most retailers will raise prices to counter this - many people are already watching their spending more than usual, and if games rise too much they will no longer be worthwhile luxury. Like was mentioned above, this really hurts the small shops the most.

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  • epictunaepictuna Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Campion wrote: »
    Uh oh, a business is successful, get Robin Hood in here, because they're clearly ne'er-do-wells!

    well DUH

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Tig wrote: »
    to be fair to Nintendo, they're clearly not making enough money right now

    You don't really get what the point of a business is do you
    Hint: It's to make money, not to sell their products less than what the consumer base will bear
    So...yeah

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    To be fair though, the Pound is in the super shitter right now.

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  • liquidloganliquidlogan Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    This price increase already actually happened in Canada some months ago. After being at $269.99 for the longest time, it went back up to $279.99, launch price since I guess a little bit after Christmas. They also did a $10 increase on most first-party Wii games and 2 $10 increases on Wii fit.

    Then again, games in general have seen a trend towards price increases.

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  • CampionCampion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Oh good, I'm not crazy, the Wii was looking a bit pricier last I saw it.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Kylogue wrote: »
    Mumblyfish wrote: »
    I can't profess to know much about the world economy, but hasn't the US Dollar just gone through a six-year period (if memory serves) of decline? I know that the Euro went from being significantly weaker than the dollar to stomping its shit in that period. Since significant currency decline isn't limited to the pound, why is Britain the only country being targeted for a price hike?

    Well, obviously it is because Nintendo has a long-running history of hating these shores, but entertain me with some answers.

    Not sure but the pound took quite the blow these past months. At least when compared to the euro...
    Google wrote:
    Currently
    1 British pound = 1.08162149 Euros
    While...
    on September 20th last year
    1 British pound = 1.28692 Euros

    If you compare it to the rest of europe... In the UK we still get cheaper Wiis. 200 pounds = 216.32~ euros

    Amazon.de lists a Wii costing 238,95 euros.


    What's my point? I dunno...

    It's only going to get worse now that the UK's started to print money. We've studied the problem for a while now and came to the conclusion that Zimbawe has the right idea.

    Grief, at this stage I honestly feel it's better to let the system fall over now and then recreate it, than struggle desperately against the recession and only dig a bigger hole that we still need to get back out of later.

    I'd like to believe that measure is going to work like they think, but all I can think is that currency is going to craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash.

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Hmm, I posted this in the VG Sales Thread, but it applies here as well:

    Consumers to be hit by Wii price rise
    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/consumers-to-be-hit-by-ii-price-rise
    Don McCabe, managing director of UK retailer Chips, has spoken out in surprise at Nintendo's price increase of the Wii, suggesting that the videogames giant could have sold the console at the GBP 199.99 price point "from the very beginning".

    Speaking to GamesIndustry.biz, McCabe explained how the move by Nintendo was not entirely unexpected, but would impact sales negatively as the price would have to be passed on to the consumer.

    "It's a first," he said. "I can't remember any other console that has been launched, been on the market for a couple of years and then gone up in price. It's an absolute first."

    "I half expected it," he continued, adding: "I can see their reasons why and there are reasons which are perfectly valid in today's market place - the Pound has been dropping against the Euro for a while now and it shows no sign of bouncing back."

    He explained that Nintendo could have probably sold the console at the higher price point since its launch without impacting sales, but that the public perception of the price hike will be negative.

    "Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I think Nintendo could have sold all the machines that they have done at the GBP 199 price point, because we've effectively had shortages from day one, pretty much all the way through."


    Retailer complains of "no margin" following Wii price hike
    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/Retailer-complains-of-no-margin-following-Wii-pricehike
    ShopTo.net's Igor Cipolletta has said that Nintendo's move to raise the price of the Wii, due to the depreciation of the Pound, has left the online retailer with "no margin".

    Speaking to GamesIndustry.biz, Cipolletta described how the decision came as an unwelcome shock to the company, adding that he believed the move was a mistake given the current economic climate.

    "It's very bad," he said, admitting: "If it's true that they want to increase it by [at least] GBP 18 then there is no margin for us at all."

    "It's very disappointing because we believed that after two years the Wii machine would get cheaper rather than more expensive - I've heard that this is the first time in history that the price has gone up for a machine after two years."

    He continued: "If you look at the history, the pound was higher [against the Euro] and they've been making quite a percentage more of money, so now they can take the loss rather than increase the price."

    "Plus it goes against the economy, in England we have job losses and all this, which makes it increasingly difficult to afford a machine - this doesn't help them."

    "I'm concerned about the software, maybe the software could go up," he commented, concluding: "I don't think it should."

    It's no surprise that retailers are upset, nor should it be unexpected that the increase will be passed onto consumers. It'll be interesting to track how UK sales of the Wii are over the slower summer months, compared to previous years.

    There was another article as well that mentioned that while Nintendo isn't going to increase prices for older titles, they are leaving that door open for new games. The cynic/conspiracy theorist in me thinks that Nintendo is essentially testing the waters for pricing their games at the same level as 360/PS3 titles. After all, do we really think that $10 more dollars (or whatever the equivalent is in pounds) is going to stop folks from buying Wii Mario Kart? Plenty of folks are buying up Wii Fit and other bundles (like music packs) which are plenty expensive.

    Of course, they can't simply raise prices without reason. Blaming the recession isn't enough, since it isn't affecting them that much (especially compared to other companies). But include the currency problems and bingo, you have a scapegoat!

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  • RotamRotam Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You know, I'd be pretty pissed if they raised the prices of new releases.

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  • KylogueKylogue Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Rotam wrote: »
    You know, I'd be pretty pissed if they raised the prices of new releases.

    I'm sure that this will be their next step.


    Also, I wonder if this is going to set something of a precedent for Microsoft and Sony to increase their console prices.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I didn't expect that the Wii would never see a price drop all this time, but I guess I can understand why. The Wii has literally no competition, there's no reason to cut the price. The markets it's in are ones that the 360 and PS3 aren't competing for.

    Might change next generation though, I doubt MS and Sony are going to leave it alone now that Nintendo have cracked that market wide open.

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  • CampionCampion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    The economy is doing very well right now, and companies should be looking into lowering their prices to match the strong economy.

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  • AshcroftAshcroft LOL The PayloadRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    The pound is doing badly, so I guess everyone must be raising their prices?

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    subedii wrote: »
    Kylogue wrote: »
    Mumblyfish wrote: »
    I can't profess to know much about the world economy, but hasn't the US Dollar just gone through a six-year period (if memory serves) of decline? I know that the Euro went from being significantly weaker than the dollar to stomping its shit in that period. Since significant currency decline isn't limited to the pound, why is Britain the only country being targeted for a price hike?

    Well, obviously it is because Nintendo has a long-running history of hating these shores, but entertain me with some answers.

    Not sure but the pound took quite the blow these past months. At least when compared to the euro...
    Google wrote:
    Currently
    1 British pound = 1.08162149 Euros
    While...
    on September 20th last year
    1 British pound = 1.28692 Euros

    If you compare it to the rest of europe... In the UK we still get cheaper Wiis. 200 pounds = 216.32~ euros

    Amazon.de lists a Wii costing 238,95 euros.


    What's my point? I dunno...

    It's only going to get worse now that the UK's started to print money. We've studied the problem for a while now and came to the conclusion that Zimbawe has the right idea.

    Grief, at this stage I honestly feel it's better to let the system fall over now and then recreate it, than struggle desperately against the recession and only dig a bigger hole that we still need to get back out of later.

    I'd like to believe that measure is going to work like they think, but all I can think is that currency is going to craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash.

    I think I should transfer all my savings into something more secure than Sterling, like perishable fruit or something. Tulip bulbs maybe.

    Or possibly Wiis.

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  • KylogueKylogue Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Campion wrote: »
    The economy is doing very well right now, and companies should be looking into lowering their prices to match the strong economy.

    Well the price is still lower than in the rest of the EU.

    And in a weak economy prices should be lower in order to keep a steady stream of revenue, even if profits might be slightly reduced. Would you rather have 10 families being able to buy a product, or just 1 by increasing the price by 50%.

    I don't think the price hike will affect most people though. I mean, the target market for the Wii doesn't exactly keep tabs on the costs of game consoles.

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  • BarneyLBarneyL Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Rent wrote: »
    Tig wrote: »
    to be fair to Nintendo, they're clearly not making enough money right now

    You don't really get what the point of a business is do you
    Hint: It's to make money, not to sell their products less than what the consumer base will bear
    So...yeah

    The point of a business is indeed to make money and Nintendo are free to charge a million pounds per wii and £100k per game if they like.
    I seriously question if the consumer base will bear this price increase though, either suppliers increase the price and the Wii costs more than an xbox elite or they swallow it and take no margin, in which case I expect they will work a lot harder to push consumers into buying a different console.
    Wii games are already overpriced for what they are in the vast majority of cases and an increase is simply going to push them out of many Wii owner's price range or past the point where the purchase can be justified as value for money.
    In the long run I expect this move will cost Nintendo money not make them any. I'm glad I bought my Wii and I pick up plenty of games for it (only when they go on sale mind you) but with these price increases if I started over again my money would be going Microsoft's way. I expect a lot of other people will be thinking the same.

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