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Pre-Fight Debate Thread: Bracket 5
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Match A:
Captain Nazi
Powers: Superhuman strength, speed and stamina, invulnerability, flight, enhanced senses
Vs.
Lady Shiva
Powers: Literate in body language to the point she often knows what an opponent will do before they do it, master martial artist
Equipment: 10 kunai, pistol, grappling hook
Environment: S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier. Neither opponent is allowed to leave the helicarrier. Captain Nazi's perimeter of flight is 20 feet on each side.
Match B:
Hobgoblin
Powers: Superhuman strength, various weapons and Goblin paraphernalia
Equipment: 10 Pumpkin Bombs, 10 Gas Bombs, Spear tipped glider
VS.
The Green Goblin
Powers: Superhuman strength, healing factor, various weapons and Goblin paraphernalia
Equipment: 10 Pumpkin Bombs, 10 Gas Bombs, Spear tipped glider
Environment: Downtown Metropolis
Match C:
Purple Man
Powers: Mind control, Highly intelligent, Skilled manipulator
Vs.
Mastermind
Powers: Telepathic Illusion
Environment: A fully manned, fully armed military base. Neither combatant may use their powers on their opponent, but are free to use them on anyone else in the area.
Match
Absorbing Man
Powers: Magical ability to mimic the characteristics of any form of matter and some forms of energy with which he is in physical contact.
Vs.
Gentleman Ghost
Powers: Fancy lad hat and monocle, dry humor, spectral ability to turn invisible and incorporeal. Renders any body part who touches him deathly cold.
Adequate marksman with antique flintlock pistols.
Equipment: 2 flintlock pistols.
Environment: The Grand Canyon. Neither competitor may leave the canyon.
Captain Nazi
Powers: Superhuman strength, speed and stamina, invulnerability, flight, enhanced senses
Vs.
Lady Shiva
Powers: Literate in body language to the point she often knows what an opponent will do before they do it, master martial artist
Equipment: 10 kunai, pistol, grappling hook
Environment: S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier. Neither opponent is allowed to leave the helicarrier. Captain Nazi's perimeter of flight is 20 feet on each side.
Match B:
Hobgoblin
Powers: Superhuman strength, various weapons and Goblin paraphernalia
Equipment: 10 Pumpkin Bombs, 10 Gas Bombs, Spear tipped glider
VS.
The Green Goblin
Powers: Superhuman strength, healing factor, various weapons and Goblin paraphernalia
Equipment: 10 Pumpkin Bombs, 10 Gas Bombs, Spear tipped glider
Environment: Downtown Metropolis
Match C:
Purple Man
Powers: Mind control, Highly intelligent, Skilled manipulator
Vs.
Mastermind
Powers: Telepathic Illusion
Environment: A fully manned, fully armed military base. Neither combatant may use their powers on their opponent, but are free to use them on anyone else in the area.
Match
Absorbing Man
Powers: Magical ability to mimic the characteristics of any form of matter and some forms of energy with which he is in physical contact.
Vs.
Gentleman Ghost
Powers: Fancy lad hat and monocle, dry humor, spectral ability to turn invisible and incorporeal. Renders any body part who touches him deathly cold.
Adequate marksman with antique flintlock pistols.
Equipment: 2 flintlock pistols.
Environment: The Grand Canyon. Neither competitor may leave the canyon.
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B. Green Goblin
C. Purple Man
D. The Gentleman Ghost
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Mastermind: "Purple Man is Mastermind!"
Purple Man can't take out Mastermind in this fight so long as the people he controls cannot see Mastermind is Mastermind, or even see him at all for that matter.
Mastermind can't use the people against Purple Man, though, if Purple Man just tells them to go unconscious.
So I guess they end up trying to shoot each other?
Your imagination is broken.
The goblin match and the Purple vs Mastermind matches are sure to be the fan favorites.
Robosagogo brings up an interesting point, should the military men be rendered void by either of the combatants powers, how will the match end? Arm wrestle?
A) Captain Nazi - No matter how good a fighter you are, a normal human can't really hurt someone with super strength, stamina, and invulnerability. Also, his name is Captain Nazi, he's got two helpings of win here.
C) Mastermind - None of the soldiers will be able to find Mastermind, while Purple Man has no way to really hide (and is too arrogant to even try). Eventually some soldier is going to shot Purple Man from farther away than his powers reach.
D) Absorbing Man - World class badass vs a guy who's apparently really fancy (sure he does some other stuff too). I just can't see Ghost hurting Absorbing Man, while all AM needs is one opening to make a fancy smear on the canyon walls.
Absorbing Man doesn't have the mental wherewithal to hit someone who is invisible and intangible. Ten bucks says Ghost gets him to charge off a cliff at him. It's the Grand Canyon, so the impact will definitely shatter a rock form or anything else Creel can get his hands on in a gift shop or whatever.
Hell if I know anything about him. His power list reads like Superman-lite and his name is Captain Nazi. I didn't really think I needed to know much more
Aren't they both already in the canyon? I assumed no leaving the canyon meant they could go outside it and had to stay within the physical confines of the canyon walls, so no big falls unless Absorbing Man climbs up for some reason.
He could smash one of the walls and cause it to collapse. Thats probably the only scenario I can think of.
Still, this guy goes up against THOR. Plus, he always carries the big wrecking ball, so he can turn into more than just rock. I'm assuming he gets to take it because he always has it.
I just don't see the ghost actually hurting him
C) Purple Man - Purple man can plant suggestions and the people will follow them even after leaving the area. I think Mastermind has to see what he's changing the appearence of, atleast to know what to make it look like. If I'm wrong about that, my vote may change.
D) Absorbing Man - He fights Thor. He has a giant steel ball he always carries around, so he can be invulnerable to anything the ghost can put out. Ghost's only hope is to get AM so mad that he smashes a canyon wall and buries himself. Doubt even that would do it for long, though. If he doesn't get to carry his standard wrecking ball, my vote may change here too, but probably not.
Great bracket. Wish I could actually see some of these fights.
But yeah, just think about how low the bar is when your only requirement to beat Absorbing Man is that you must be as smart as Thor.
No comment on Match A. I'm not sure what degree of superstrength Captain Nazi has, and I'm not going to Google his name on a public computer to find out. From the general reactions here, though, he seems to be near Superman level. Is that at all correct? If so, Shiva's screwed.
Green Goblin for Match B. He's smarter, meaner and crazier. He would find a way to not just beat Hobgoblin, but to humilate him.
Match C makes me cry at the beauty of it. I have to give it to Purple Man. So long as he isn't subject to illusions, he can find Mastermind and direct people to take him out. He's got the brains and the skill to take this.
Match D. The Gentleman Ghost. I'll be honest, I'm basing this solely on his awesome speech patterns. "I'll do you proper!" indeed.
Humans with less knowledge on how to kill non- AND superpowered beings than Lady Shiva.
Lady Shiva wins.
And Mastermind wins. He can turn any of Purple Man's tactics around with the greatest of ease.
I think Purple man's power could override Masterminds illusion....
They can't. Purple Man can make anyone do anything within their power by telling them. However, if his powers made those under his control able to discern between any target, Jessica Drew wouldn't have punched Scarlet Witch instead of Daredevil when he told her to go kill Daredevil.
If he told the soldiers to kill Mastermind, and Mastermind projected an illusion into their minds that made Purple Man look like him, Purple Man would bite it, unless he ordered the soldiers not to.
But there's also the fact that Mastermind can simply cast an illusion making him invisible to the soldiers.
Last I saw him (a few months ago) he was beating the STUFFING out of the JSA. That's right, all of them. The only way they won was some weakness he had to virgins and people from some lineage thing (if I remember right). Otherwise they couldn't really hurt him. But he sure could hurt THEM.
He also summoned a bunch of other ghosts to fight for him. And it seems like his ability to hurt people ignores toughness or invulnerability. I personally think Absorbing man is screwed...he can be as strong and tough as he wants, but he can't hit the ghost, and it seems like Ghosts attacks will ignore his toughness.
Oh GOD....what in the FLIPPING FUCK is this shit!?
Spectre, your ripping me apart man....I LOVE Lady Shiva, I WANT to vote for her, but, I CAN'T.
Fight the good fight for me....I'm counting on you!!
So, what the hell are Captain Nazi's feat's. All I remember him being is a punching bag for Captain Marvel....
Gentleman Ghost did recently fuck the JSA to new levels, and was only stopped because Stargirl (surprisingly) still had an intact hymen and Wildcat's lineage is traced to royal english blood.
He'd swarm the canyon with thousands of ghosts to do the dirty work for him.
So, unless Absorbing Man has a royal family history, or wasn't popular in highschool, he's beat. Can't touch him.
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Absorbing Man has been in prison...he's no virgin...
Heh, that works on at least two levels.
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B: Green Goblin. Is anyone not gonna vote for the original?
C: Mastermind, as others have said. If they could've used their powers on each other though I probably would've gone with Purple Man.
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And Mastermind can fool multiple people with his illusions.
You forgot his marriage to Titania.