Street Fighter IV: IN-DE-STRUCT-ABLE

thepassenger

Ah_Pook wrote: »

if theyre going that hard for throws you should be jamming tech throws constantly once they get in on you. of course when you start doing that is when a good player will fuck you in the ass because youre sitting there trying to tech out of throws while theyre comboing you into whatever silly shit they want.

I have problems consistently teching out of throws, even if I am jamming on LP+LK in anticipation of being thrown. It seems to be really random to me and works every once in awhile. I guess this is something I can work out in training. I wonder if you can record the CPU to throw you.

eek

Or, you know, you can jump.

Ah_Pook

eek wrote: »

Or, you know, you can jump.

well shit, thanks for clearing that up.

Aumni

thepassenger wrote: »

Ah_Pook wrote: »

if theyre going that hard for throws you should be jamming tech throws constantly once they get in on you. of course when you start doing that is when a good player will fuck you in the ass because youre sitting there trying to tech out of throws while theyre comboing you into whatever silly shit they want.

I have problems consistently teching out of throws, even if I am jamming on LP+LK in anticipation of being thrown. It seems to be really random to me and works every once in awhile. I guess this is something I can work out in training. I wonder if you can record the CPU to throw you.

If you're still recovering from a move you can't tech, just FYI.

Ah_Pook

you have to EX tech to cancel out of the recovery frames, its tricky but if you time it right...

note: i just made that up.

thepassenger

Ah_Pook wrote: »

you have to EX tech to cancel out of the recovery frames, its tricky but if you time it right...

note: i just made that up.

But oddly enough that almost sounded possible. EX canceling out of block recovery FTW.

Thanks for the tips guys, I guess I will try to do c.LP+LK for teching, at worse I end up playing footsies...or you know, just try jumping (watch me get air thrown lots now). :P

Aumni

thepassenger wrote: »

Ah_Pook wrote: »

you have to EX tech to cancel out of the recovery frames, its tricky but if you time it right...

note: i just made that up.

But oddly enough that almost sounded possible. EX canceling out of block recovery FTW.

Thanks for the tips guys, I guess I will try to do c.LP+LK for teching, at work I end up playing footsies...or you know, just jumping. :P

Well if you FADC out of a move you can dodge or tech out a throw. It helps when you know you fucked up after you dash with boxer or something, because you can FADC out of the hit and go in for your own throw or tech theirs.

eek

If you know the throw is coming, jump straight up and come down with an attack. At worst, you get a block string, at best, you get a nice combo.

Meister

Wow I suck sooo much at this game. For some reason every time I try to do an ultra combo like the metsu hadouken where it's two small quarter-circles forwards I end up just doing the shoryuken motion move for that character. Every. single. time. Also I'm just losing over and over to Zangief on easy. He knocks me on the ground, and then AS SOON as I get up he does some grab on me that I can't seem to avoid. Awesome.

Evil Multifarious

abel should have had the exact same personality and voice as that guy in GTA IV who was all roid-raging and angry all the time.

Brucie I think it was?

wonderpug

Meister wrote: »

Wow I suck sooo much at this game. For some reason every time I try to do an ultra combo like the metsu hadouken where it's two small quarter-circles forwards I end up just doing the shoryuken motion move for that character. Every. single. time.

Go into training mode and enable "input display" to see what's going wrong. You're either not hitting forward all the way on your QCFs or hitting PPP early.

Also I'm just losing over and over to Zangief on easy. He knocks me on the ground, and then AS SOON as I get up he does some grab on me that I can't seem to avoid. Awesome.

Jump.

MarvellousM

TheStig wrote: »

MarvellousM wrote: »

Capcom needed to have a Bas Rutten clone in this game. Hell, just put Bas in it.

*snip*

See that's what I thought Abel was going to be since he was all dressed up like a pancrase fighter but no they had to give him some lame ass story.

Yeah if Abel had been from Holland and talked like Bas Rutten he'd be my favourite game character ever.

Meister

Wow, so after trying and failing to beat that Zangief like 15 times, I figured out I could just low punch thunder knuckle over and over and he'd die. Yay AI!

Ah_Pook

yea you shouldnt play the AI, thats the kind of horrible things it will teach you

shadydentist

I don't know why people complain about turtling Sagats. That character was basically made to turtle.

Italax

Seth on Hardest is so annoying. So very, very annoying.

Aumni

Meister wrote: »

Wow, so after trying and failing to beat that Zangief like 15 times, I figured out I could just low punch thunder knuckle over and over and he'd die. Yay AI!

Congrats! You are playing the hardest character in the game. She has so many cancels and glitches that unless your execution is -very- good you will have trouble pulling off a lot of her moves.

TheUnsane1

MarvellousM wrote: »

TheStig wrote: »

MarvellousM wrote: »

Capcom needed to have a Bas Rutten clone in this game. Hell, just put Bas in it.

*snip*

See that's what I thought Abel was going to be since he was all dressed up like a pancrase fighter but no they had to give him some lame ass story.

Yeah if Abel had been from Holland and talked like Bas Rutten he'd be my favourite game character ever.

And his ulta could have been all " Don't Evaaa do dat again" And his CoD combo could have been all "Bang, bang, bang" That would have been so clutch.

LibrarianThorne

Oh man, GDC is so ruining my SF skills. I'm gonna be soooo bad when I get back...

Meister

Aumni wrote: »

Meister wrote: »

Wow, so after trying and failing to beat that Zangief like 15 times, I figured out I could just low punch thunder knuckle over and over and he'd die. Yay AI!

Congrats! You are playing the hardest character in the game. She has so many cancels and glitches that unless your execution is -very- good you will have trouble pulling off a lot of her moves.

Oh yah, no way I'm using C. Viper as my main character. I was just unlocking Cammy (I just got the game). Unlocking Akuma is a bitch. Mostly because I really suck. I ALWAYS die on Seth. Even on Easiest ;_;.

Edit: yay, i figured out that if i use the dpad i can just tap down forward down forward all punches really quick and it'll work like a charm.

Aumni

Meister wrote: »

Aumni wrote: »

Meister wrote: »

Wow, so after trying and failing to beat that Zangief like 15 times, I figured out I could just low punch thunder knuckle over and over and he'd die. Yay AI!

Congrats! You are playing the hardest character in the game. She has so many cancels and glitches that unless your execution is -very- good you will have trouble pulling off a lot of her moves.

Oh yah, no way I'm using C. Viper as my main character. I was just unlocking Cammy (I just got the game). Unlocking Akuma is a bitch. Mostly because I really suck. I ALWAYS die on Seth. Even on Easiest ;_;.

Edit: yay, i figured out that if i use the dpad i can just tap down forward down forward all punches really quick and it'll work like a charm.

Man if you get good with C.Viper you'll win at the game.

Barrabas

Meister wrote: »

Aumni wrote: »

Meister wrote: »

Wow, so after trying and failing to beat that Zangief like 15 times, I figured out I could just low punch thunder knuckle over and over and he'd die. Yay AI!

Congrats! You are playing the hardest character in the game. She has so many cancels and glitches that unless your execution is -very- good you will have trouble pulling off a lot of her moves.

Oh yah, no way I'm using C. Viper as my main character. I was just unlocking Cammy (I just got the game). Unlocking Akuma is a bitch. Mostly because I really suck. I ALWAYS die on Seth. Even on Easiest ;_;.

Edit: yay, i figured out that if i use the dpad i can just tap down forward down forward all punches really quick and it'll work like a charm.

I'm trying to remember because it's been a while since I did it, but isn't the "no continues" requirement for unlocking Akuma and Gouken just up until Seth? So you can die on Seth, continue and still get them.

Marikir

Barrabas wrote: »

Meister wrote: »

Aumni wrote: »

Meister wrote: »

Wow, so after trying and failing to beat that Zangief like 15 times, I figured out I could just low punch thunder knuckle over and over and he'd die. Yay AI!

Congrats! You are playing the hardest character in the game. She has so many cancels and glitches that unless your execution is -very- good you will have trouble pulling off a lot of her moves.

Oh yah, no way I'm using C. Viper as my main character. I was just unlocking Cammy (I just got the game). Unlocking Akuma is a bitch. Mostly because I really suck. I ALWAYS die on Seth. Even on Easiest ;_;.

Edit: yay, i figured out that if i use the dpad i can just tap down forward down forward all punches really quick and it'll work like a charm.

I'm trying to remember because it's been a while since I did it, but isn't the "no continues" requirement for unlocking Akuma and Gouken just up until Seth? So you can die on Seth, continue and still get them.

I don't think so. I had to get past Seth w/out dying to get to challenge Akuma and Gouken.

DanHibiki

The only person I have difficulty beating Seth with is Dhalsim. I just can't play that guy.

I finally killed the blue bastard by launching my ultra from across the screen in pure desperation, my health was at 1 and his was at 10% and the AI stupidly long-punched at the fireball as it crawled towards him.

thepassenger

Meister wrote: »

Oh yah, no way I'm using C. Viper as my main character. I was just unlocking Cammy (I just got the game). Unlocking Akuma is a bitch. Mostly because I really suck. I ALWAYS die on Seth. Even on Easiest ;_;.

If you have a second controller you can press start on it to initiate a challenge before Seth beats you. It's not a continue, if you're "saved" before death. :P

wonderpug

Marikir wrote: »

Barrabas wrote: »

I'm trying to remember because it's been a while since I did it, but isn't the "no continues" requirement for unlocking Akuma and Gouken just up until Seth? So you can die on Seth, continue and still get them.

I don't think so. I had to get past Seth w/out dying to get to challenge Akuma and Gouken.

This "official" guide to the Akuma/Gouken unlock says you can lose the Seth match for Akuma, but not for Gouken.

Marikir

wonderpug wrote: »

Marikir wrote: »

Barrabas wrote: »

I'm trying to remember because it's been a while since I did it, but isn't the "no continues" requirement for unlocking Akuma and Gouken just up until Seth? So you can die on Seth, continue and still get them.

I don't think so. I had to get past Seth w/out dying to get to challenge Akuma and Gouken.

This "official" guide to the Akuma/Gouken unlock says you can lose the Seth match for Akuma, but not for Gouken.

Hmmm. Strange. I could have sworn I did that (made it to Seth, he beat me, then I beat him) when I was going for Akuma and I didn't get to challenge him. Re-did it and beat him without him beating me and then was challenged by Akuma.

Oh well, I could be wrong.

If you can avoid being beaten, you're golden, at the very least.

MarvellousM

TheUnsane1 wrote: »

MarvellousM wrote: »

TheStig wrote: »

MarvellousM wrote: »

Capcom needed to have a Bas Rutten clone in this game. Hell, just put Bas in it.

*snip*

See that's what I thought Abel was going to be since he was all dressed up like a pancrase fighter but no they had to give him some lame ass story.

Yeah if Abel had been from Holland and talked like Bas Rutten he'd be my favourite game character ever.

And his ulta could have been all " Don't Evaaa do dat again" And his CoD combo could have been all "Bang, bang, bang" That would have been so clutch.

And when he wins he can tell you steroids are for pussies.

Shujaa

So apparently the easiest way to cheese through the Time Trial/Survival modes is to pick Zangief and spam Lariats. Throw in the occasional super/ultra to speed things up.

B:L

Shujaa wrote: »

So apparently the easiest way to cheese through the Time Trial/Survival modes is to pick Zangief and spam Lariats. Throw in the occasional super/ultra to speed things up.

That doesn't seem like it'll win you many gold crowns.

Derigor

Wtf so my office network was down while we moved buildings and you guys are already on another thread and 11 pages without me!?

Still waiting on my sanwa parts to fix my joystick I busted... christ they are slow.
I am going to suck so much at SF4 when I get the parts since I havnt played at all since I broke my stick.
Also I wont know what to do with a functional controller.

Shujaa

B:L wrote: »

Shujaa wrote: »

So apparently the easiest way to cheese through the Time Trial/Survival modes is to pick Zangief and spam Lariats. Throw in the occasional super/ultra to speed things up.

That doesn't seem like it'll win you many gold crowns.

No, but it unlocks the extra costume colours.

Arcibi

So has anyone actually managed to complete Guile's combo trial

Specifically, the one that goes jump-in hard kick -> crouching medium punch -> flash kick -> double fucking flash

I've tried and failed to do this thousands of times and I seriously want to punch whoever approved this weapons-grade bullshit in their fucking face

Ah_Pook

Arcibi wrote: »

So has anyone actually managed to complete Guile's combo trial

Specifically, the one that goes jump-in hard kick -> crouching medium punch -> flash kick -> double fucking flash

I've tried and failed to do this thousands of times and I seriously want to punch whoever approved this weapons-grade bullshit in their fucking face

to cancel a flash kick into super you do this

charge 1, 9+K 1 9+k

TheStig

Arcibi wrote: »

So has anyone actually managed to complete Guile's combo trial

Specifically, the one that goes jump-in hard kick -> crouching medium punch -> flash kick -> double fucking flash

I've tried and failed to do this thousands of times and I seriously want to punch whoever approved this weapons-grade bullshit in their fucking face

i told you how but i guess you didn't see it so i'll post again!

flash -> double flash is: Charge 1 -> 9k, 1, 9k
make sure you do the 9k19k really fast.

Meister

For you guys without fight pads, do you use analog stick or d-pad? I seem to be able to pull of moves faster, but less accurately with the stick.

Arcibi

Ah, okay, that makes a hell of a lot more sense now

Thanks, I'll try it again after I get off work

wonderpug

Shujaa wrote: »

So apparently the easiest way to cheese through the Time Trial/Survival modes is to pick Zangief and spam Lariats. Throw in the occasional super/ultra to speed things up.

Once you knock the CPU down with Zangief you can infinitely repeat the spinning piledriver -> green hand loop for a guaranteed win.

SPD, as soon as you land do a jab green hand followed by a jab SPD (or heavier version if you're close enough). The SPD will be timed to grab the CPU immediately as he's standing up, and then just repeat until you win. That's basically how I finished up the hard survival challenges.

Similarly, in the challenges that give you unlimited ultra or super gauge you can pick Akuma and just do the raging demon over and over as the CPU tries to stand up. Hits 'em every time.

wonderpug

Meister wrote: »

For you guys without fight pads, do you use analog stick or d-pad? I seem to be able to pull of moves faster, but less accurately with the stick.

Weird, when I still used the 360 controller for HD Remix I found I could pull off moves more accurately but less fast with the stick. I preferred the analog stick since it would at least do what I was telling it to do.

Taramoor

wonderpug wrote: »

Shujaa wrote: »

So apparently the easiest way to cheese through the Time Trial/Survival modes is to pick Zangief and spam Lariats. Throw in the occasional super/ultra to speed things up.

Once you knock the CPU down with Zangief you can infinitely repeat the spinning piledriver -> green hand loop for a guaranteed win.

SPD, as soon as you land do a jab green hand followed by a jab SPD (or heavier version if you're close enough). The SPD will be timed to grab the CPU immediately as he's standing up, and then just repeat until you win. That's basically how I finished up the hard survival challenges.

Similarly, in the challenges that give you unlimited ultra or super gauge you can pick Akuma and just do the raging demon over and over as the CPU tries to stand up. Hits 'em every time.

For infinite Super Guage I prefer Gen's Mantis super, as it combos into itself and is damn satisfying.