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[NDS] Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume - OUT NOW

RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Games and Technology
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http://na.square-enix.com/vpcp/

As a huge Valkyrie Profile fan, I'm a little surprised there isn't a thread for this game seeing as how it's been out for almost a week now.

Prologue:
Across the fields of war echo the songs of fighting men:

"No glory as great
Does a warrior await,
No nobler be any than he,
That meets his fate
At Valhalla's gate,
On the wings of the Valkyrie."


Eagerly forth to battle go they who hold fast the creed, to Death their open arms extended, seeking Her divine embrace. So went a father to his venerable grave, a lone white feather left where he lay as he passed into the keeping of the gods.

In tragedy's wake a family wept while men of war sang his praises. Of glory bestowed and legends born the men will often speak, leaving untold the sullen tales in the hearts of the bereaved--

They who curse the blessings of the Chooser of the Slain.

The years would pass, but with them came no peace. Tragedy brought poverty, and poverty spawned tragedy more as hunger claimed a sister's life, then grief a mother's mind.

His house in ruin, his heart astray, and hope forever lost, Wylfred took glaive in hand, and ventured forth to battle. There she would descend, and waiting would be he--

So that a god might suffer a mortal's pain.

The game is different from the other two Valkyrie Profiles, most notably in that it is a Tactics-RPG rather than just a regular old JRPG. Also, you don't play as a Valkyrie... You play the role of Wylfred, a young man whose family is in shambles after the Valkyrie takes his father Thyodor. He makes a pact on the Destiny Plume with Hel, mistress of Nifleheim, to grant him the power necessary to destroy the cursed Chooser of the Slain.

In order to become powerful enough to defeat the Valkyrie, Wylfred will need to collect Sin for Hel. There are a couple of ways he can do this. One is to "Overkill" his enemies, by continuing to deal damage to them even when they should already be dead. The other is to invoke the Destiny Plume's power to grant a single ally great power for the duration of a battle... afterwards, their life becomes forfeit - never again to fight amongst the living.

Battles are all about positioning - Nearby characters will team up to attack enemies together, with each character assigned to a button like previous games in the series; get enough hits in and you can unleash their devastating finishing moves.

Some battle footage
Features:
The game has some features, including but not limited to:
  • TAKE A FLIGHT: The game sports a good deal of music taken right from the original Valkyrie Profile, which may be a tad lazy on the big SE's part, but I for one love VP's music and the game's soundtrack has me waxing nostalgiac every map.

  • FINISHING STRIKE: Also included (and seen in the video above) are the special Soul Crush moves, complete with voice acting and quips from the characters using them.

  • I DON'T WANNA... DIE: Depression abounds, as to be expected. People and characters die, and supposedly which characters you recruit or kill off changes which characters you will see or will join you later.

  • MULTIPLE PATHS: There are multiple paths through the story, as near as I can tell - each one giving you access to a unique set of characters. Also, given that this is a tri-Ace joint, I would imagine multiple endings aren't out of the question.

  • BONUS DUNGEON: I hear tell that there is a bonus dugeon... So, yeah.

I'm really enjoying the game so far and I hope some of you guys are too. So let's talk about it!

For those of you who haven't picked it up... it does has the full Square-Enix tax in effect. :|

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  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I really enjoyed the PS2 Valkyrie game. This is totally going in my queue.

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  • JorilJoril BelgiumRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I'm interested in this game, ever since Puzzle Quest I've been looking for a new game to fill the DS cardridge slot. I've enjoyed Tactics Ogre on the GBA a whole lot (in fact I'm playing it from time to time till this day) so this seems like a natural fit.
    Though I've read mixed reviews, some talked about "both" combat sytems not really meshing together all that well.

    I have some questions aswel, is there a class system in the game? Weapons and armour upgrades? (and how does it compare to Tactics Ogre or FFTA?)

    Btw, Square-Enix tax, what's that?

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    There is no class system. Each character equips specific types of weapons and have specific attack ranges. There is a little choice in weapons, though... They can have between 1-3 attacks, an element, and the ability to do a finishing move or not. So sometimes you may take a slightly weaker weapon if it will give you a Soul Crush attack or opt for a stronger one with less hits.

    You can only bring 4 characters into battle so you may have to decide between short/long range attackers, etc.

    Weapon/Armor upgrades are purchased from shops as you progress or given as rewards for killing enemies or collecting enough Sin by the end of a battle.

    The Square-Enix tax is the extra $5 that SE charges you to buy their DS games (they're pretty much always $40 instead of $30-35 that most normal games are).

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    The company likes to price all of their games $5 higher.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2009
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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Hahaha, really?

    God I even searched!

    I was surprised you hadn't made a thread. *shrug*

    Someone can lock this if everyone wants to migrate.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2009
    So long as you accept my superiority, that's enough.

    I'm sort of mixed on this. I like the Feather gimmick. I like that a lot of the battles are actually hard, but some of the maps are seriously way too large for having 4 characters. I really hate this isometric thing though. I also despise that Exp crystals don't mean jackshit unless you kill the enemy that encounter. So... what's the point of even trying for them? They did a pretty good job with the localization, but the thouspeak gets to be a bit much really often.

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I haven't even used the Feather at all yet. I'm going to try not to this playthrough... that's my Fire Emblem gene bugging me to not kill anyone.

    There were a couple battles where it was tough, but Vali's Awakening was enough to pull me through.

    And yeah, some of the maps seem awful big. Like Wintergard, it's a pretty big map combined with the fact that you can't move very far.

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I want this game so bad.
    But none of the stores here have it...
    Time for gamestop.com I guess.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2009
    I haven't even used the Feather at all yet. I'm going to try not to this playthrough... that's my Fire Emblem gene bugging me to not kill anyone.

    There were a couple battles where it was tough, but Vali's Awakening was enough to pull me through.

    And yeah, some of the maps seem awful big. Like Wintergard, it's a pretty big map combined with the fact that you can't move very far.

    You need saves on all three endings for the Seraphic Gate. One ending requires using the Feather many many times. May as well grab that ending first for all the extra skills on the subsequent runs.

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Aroduc wrote: »
    I haven't even used the Feather at all yet. I'm going to try not to this playthrough... that's my Fire Emblem gene bugging me to not kill anyone.

    There were a couple battles where it was tough, but Vali's Awakening was enough to pull me through.

    And yeah, some of the maps seem awful big. Like Wintergard, it's a pretty big map combined with the fact that you can't move very far.

    You need saves on all three endings for the Seraphic Gate. One ending requires using the Feather many many times. May as well grab that ending first for all the extra skills on the subsequent runs.
    Meh.

    I'm already in Chapter 5, which according to this flowchart on GameFAQs is too late to get that ending.

    Next run is going to be my sacrifice everyone run.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2009
    Aroduc wrote: »
    I haven't even used the Feather at all yet. I'm going to try not to this playthrough... that's my Fire Emblem gene bugging me to not kill anyone.

    There were a couple battles where it was tough, but Vali's Awakening was enough to pull me through.

    And yeah, some of the maps seem awful big. Like Wintergard, it's a pretty big map combined with the fact that you can't move very far.

    You need saves on all three endings for the Seraphic Gate. One ending requires using the Feather many many times. May as well grab that ending first for all the extra skills on the subsequent runs.
    Meh.

    I'm already in Chapter 5, which according to this flowchart on GameFAQs is too late to get that ending.

    Next run is going to be my sacrifice everyone run.

    Make sure to kill off Cheripha early. Awesome awesome tactic.

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Aroduc wrote: »
    I haven't even used the Feather at all yet. I'm going to try not to this playthrough... that's my Fire Emblem gene bugging me to not kill anyone.

    There were a couple battles where it was tough, but Vali's Awakening was enough to pull me through.

    And yeah, some of the maps seem awful big. Like Wintergard, it's a pretty big map combined with the fact that you can't move very far.

    You need saves on all three endings for the Seraphic Gate. One ending requires using the Feather many many times. May as well grab that ending first for all the extra skills on the subsequent runs.
    Meh.

    I'm already in Chapter 5, which according to this flowchart on GameFAQs is too late to get that ending.

    Next run is going to be my sacrifice everyone run.

    Make sure to kill off Cheripha early. Awesome awesome tactic.
    She's one of my least favorite characters, so this will not be a problem. :)

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  • mystic_knightmystic_knight Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    So, I'm in chapter 3 and having problems.
    Saving Rosea. Fucking bitch dies in two hits and won't heal herself.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2009
    So, I'm in chapter 3 and having problems.
    Saving Rosea. Fucking bitch dies in two hits and won't heal herself.

    Pluuuuume.

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  • mystic_knightmystic_knight Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Aroduc wrote: »
    So, I'm in chapter 3 and having problems.
    Saving Rosea. Fucking bitch dies in two hits and won't heal herself.

    Pluuuuume.

    I don't wanna :(

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Aroduc wrote: »
    So, I'm in chapter 3 and having problems.
    Saving Rosea. Fucking bitch dies in two hits and won't heal herself.

    Pluuuuume.

    I don't wanna :(
    Make sure everyone has Dash and use it on the first turn, you may be able to take out the first enemy if you can get everyone close enough and attack with Cheripha or Lockswell.

    Move Wylfred as far up as you can and use Vali's Awakening, that should draw at least one of them away.

    That battle was such a pain.

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  • IvanIssacsIvanIssacs Skull Leader SDF-1Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Found this for $35 over at Fry's yesterday. Going to start playing it when I finish Fire Emblem.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    The hell? You play against the Valkyrie? As a mortal?

    Uhh...

    I guess the gameplay looks cool, but that premise doesn't make sense.

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  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    So, basically first playthrough, plume everyone to be awesome.

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  • mystic_knightmystic_knight Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Peachy. I'm in the third fight in a string of battles with no time to shop in between and have no Union Plumes at the start. If I Plume my way though this mission I'll have no more Plumes unless I want to game over for the rest of Chapter 4.

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  • DividesByZeroDividesByZero Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I picked this up on a whim (and maybe a little because of the thread) and I've been enjoying it. I like that the game encourages you to be really really horrible, and the only thing that has me worried is that I see myself holding off on pluming folks because I want to betray their trust at the perfect moment. I hope the game provides for some of these moments- I want to sacrifice folks as I help to save their loved ones, betray them after they express their love/devotion/admiration for me. I want to be cruel, cruel, cruel.

    please, video game, let me be the vilest I can be!

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    It's a neat game. I think I finished my first playthrough in 15 hours or so.

    I went through the ending where you don't plume anybody first and I don't really recommend it. The boss has a habit of being rather unforgiving.

    Boss Spoilers
    Though Garm healed himself once which frustrated me a bit, I got lucky later on. I did notice that while his SC is dark element, his attacks seem to be earth element. Stock up on those earth ward items. I had Lockswell with the dark resist robe you get 1-2 battles prior with 200% sin and he was usually able to survive a full beating until I got 2 others in there to do damage. Garm was not an easy boss.

    I think I had to prep Lockswell, Wyl and Ancel with spell/might reinforce, guard reinforce lockswell and have him try to take attacks before I could get those three up to Garm to do as much damage as possible. I started running low on earth wards, so had to only use them on lockswell so he could survive an attack plus SC.

    Also, buy a lot of union plumes. I had Cheripha sit in the back and resurrect people constantly.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2009
    Ardor wrote: »
    It's a neat game. I think I finished my first playthrough in 15 hours or so.

    I went through the ending where you don't plume anybody first and I don't really recommend it. The boss has a habit of being rather unforgiving.

    Boss Spoilers
    Though Garm healed himself once which frustrated me a bit, I got lucky later on. I did notice that while his SC is dark element, his attacks seem to be earth element. Stock up on those earth ward items. I had Lockswell with the dark resist robe you get 1-2 battles prior with 200% sin and he was usually able to survive a full beating until I got 2 others in there to do damage. Garm was not an easy boss.

    I think I had to prep Lockswell, Wyl and Ancel with spell/might reinforce, guard reinforce lockswell and have him try to take attacks before I could get those three up to Garm to do as much damage as possible. I started running low on earth wards, so had to only use them on lockswell so he could survive an attack plus SC.

    Also, buy a lot of union plumes. I had Cheripha sit in the back and resurrect people constantly.

    On the other hand, sacrificing Cheripha almost makes the game too easy. Her skill is absurd. I tossed up her and her dad, and that made most of the rest of the game cake.
    Paralyze all enemies except the boss for 3 turns, and silence all enemies. Okay, so... now I don't need to worry about magic any more, and I can jack basically the entire map if I ever get in trouble.

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  • AegofAegof Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I like this game. The fights are often tough and a little overwhelming, but in a good way.
    I'm two fights into chapter three and have yet to plume anyone. Sometimes I wanna but it always feels like cheating.

    So, I'm in chapter 3 and having problems.
    Saving Rosea. Fucking bitch dies in two hits and won't heal herself.

    Dash, and Martyr's Cry.
    Oh, and luck.

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  • mystic_knightmystic_knight Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Aegof wrote: »
    I like this game. The fights are often tough and a little overwhelming, but in a good way.
    I'm two fights into chapter three and have yet to plume anyone. Sometimes I wanna but it always feels like cheating.

    So, I'm in chapter 3 and having problems.
    Saving Rosea. Fucking bitch dies in two hits and won't heal herself.

    Dash, and Martyr's Cry.
    Oh, and luck.

    I already Plumed it. I figured going for the A ending first was silly, anyway.

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Ardor wrote: »
    It's a neat game. I think I finished my first playthrough in 15 hours or so.

    I went through the ending where you don't plume anybody first and I don't really recommend it. The boss has a habit of being rather unforgiving.

    Boss Spoilers
    Though Garm healed himself once which frustrated me a bit, I got lucky later on. I did notice that while his SC is dark element, his attacks seem to be earth element. Stock up on those earth ward items. I had Lockswell with the dark resist robe you get 1-2 battles prior with 200% sin and he was usually able to survive a full beating until I got 2 others in there to do damage. Garm was not an easy boss.

    I think I had to prep Lockswell, Wyl and Ancel with spell/might reinforce, guard reinforce lockswell and have him try to take attacks before I could get those three up to Garm to do as much damage as possible. I started running low on earth wards, so had to only use them on lockswell so he could survive an attack plus SC.

    Also, buy a lot of union plumes. I had Cheripha sit in the back and resurrect people constantly.

    On the other hand, sacrificing Cheripha almost makes the game too easy. Her skill is absurd. I tossed up her and her dad, and that made most of the rest of the game cake.
    Paralyze all enemies except the boss for 3 turns, and silence all enemies. Okay, so... now I don't need to worry about magic any more, and I can jack basically the entire map if I ever get in trouble.

    I noticed that on my second playthrough. I don't recommend anyone go through the game first without pluming someone since the boss fight at the end of that path was very tough.

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    So yeah, the final boss of the "no Plume" path is kind of ridiculous.
    I got it down to 15000 HP with a single group of attacks, but then the ensuing counter-attack killed or paralyzed everyone. :|

    This was with Vali's Awakening/Might Reinforce/Spell Reinforce on everyone too, so I can't really bump up my damage output any more.

    Blah.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2009
    Serves you right. Other people are there to be devoured.

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    So yeah, the final boss of the "no Plume" path is kind of ridiculous.
    I got it down to 15000 HP with a single group of attacks, but then the ensuing counter-attack killed or paralyzed everyone. :|

    This was with Vali's Awakening/Might Reinforce/Spell Reinforce on everyone too, so I can't really bump up my damage output any more.

    Blah.
    I found out earth talismans will help you resist the non-SC portion of those attacks. Otherwise, I always had someone out of range of the attacks to revive everyone and it would take 2-3 pretty good runs to kill the guy. Try to make sure he uses his AP to cast some spell on you rather than healing himself. 80% heal to his hps makes you die a little inside.

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    This game actually made me throw my DS (on my bed).

    Not for failing missions.
    But because I didn't get 2x sin. Ugh.

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  • RenegenRenegen Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Good game, all I have to advise is ... if you ever have trouble winning fights, then plume someone !


    When you get all 3 endings, you will see how great this game is, it really plays with the player, a 2 way relationship. Very clever and good game.

    All 3 endings also unlocks bonus dungeon.

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  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Aroduc wrote: »
    I really hate this isometric thing though.
    I am stabbing you through the internet :x

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Bedlam wrote: »
    Aroduc wrote: »
    I really hate this isometric thing though.
    I am stabbing you through the internet :x

    I have to agree. It's not that isometric is bad. It's the angle makes it so sometimes there's NO direction from where you can see everything, because buildings will block your view no matter which way you turn.

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  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So I'm debating between getting this game, Suikoden or Chrono Trigger for my next ds game. Has anyone played all three to compare? (Note: I played Chrono Trigger waaaay back in the SNES days, so its not like I haven't played it.)

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Nope, I had the same thoughts the day I picked this one up though.

    CT I heard the bonus dungeons are annoying, and do I really need to play it yet again?
    ST heard it became a chore to complete.

    VP:CotP can be frustrating from randomness in battles while you're trying to "perfect" stages. But 2nd game+ should be a lot easier.

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  • AegofAegof Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Between VP and Suikoden?

    Well are you in the mood for a supereasy game (Suikoden) or a rather hard game (VP)?

    This is the big reason I'm playing more Suikoden than VP; it's easy to play Suikoden for a few hours and progress the whole time. With VP, I tend to lose battles two or three times before I get them down, and then I still don't get all the Sin I want.

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  • GuibsGuibs Weekend Warrior Somewhere up North.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So I'm debating between getting this game, Suikoden or Chrono Trigger for my next ds game. Has anyone played all three to compare? (Note: I played Chrono Trigger waaaay back in the SNES days, so its not like I haven't played it.)

    your name is Chrono and you're debating if you should get this or Chrono Trigger?

    BLASPHEMY!

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Revenge...yea right.

    Do the main character and Valkyrire fuk at the end? :|

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  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Guibs wrote: »
    So I'm debating between getting this game, Suikoden or Chrono Trigger for my next ds game. Has anyone played all three to compare? (Note: I played Chrono Trigger waaaay back in the SNES days, so its not like I haven't played it.)

    your name is Chrono and you're debating if you should get this or Chrono Trigger?

    BLASPHEMY!

    Well, I've already played Chrono Trigger. :P

    I think I am leaning toward getting VP first, difficulty probably swaying me away from Suikoden.

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