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GOP Alternate "Budget": $TEXAS Sized Tax Cut for the Rich

wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Debate and/or Discourse
So there's an alternative "budget" out today from the Republicans. I put that in quotes because it's thoroughly lacking in detail beyond a huge tax cut for anyone making over $100,000. The top tax bracket under this plan would go from 35% to 25%. Boehner says the details are forthcoming next week. Until then, we can speculate on how badly the "budget" is going to gut everything except military spending. I'm not sure that that these guys really get that siding with the rich in class warfare isn't very smart when most of the middle class is unhappy with the fat cats right now. Is doubling down on tax cuts that won't help the middle class really the way back to electoral success?

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I read the Sullivan article on this. It involves cutting spending to a lot of programs (in the vein of the National Endowment for the Arts, aid to Palestinian infrastructure building, ACORN funding, etc) and then...

    ...a spending freeze.

    :|

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  • TachTach Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Jesus, I can't believe what an ass that guy is.

    Boner: "Here's our budget."
    Press: "Where?"
    Boner (magic hands): "Here."
    Press: "This just says: Tax Cuts for Rich Folks. Where's the rest?"
    Boner: "Hey- it's not ready yet."
    Press: "So this isn't a budget, is it?"
    Boner: "Screw you guys, I'm going home."

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Boehner and McConnell have approval ratings that are only slightly higher then the Devil. They can propose whatever stupid shit they want, it won't matter.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Tach wrote: »
    Jesus, I can't believe what an ass that guy is.

    Boner: "Here's our budget."
    Press: "Where?"
    Boner (magic hands): "Here."
    Press: "This just says: Tax Cuts for Rich Folks. Where's the rest?"
    Boner: "Hey- it's not ready yet."
    Press: "So this isn't a budget, is it?"
    Boner: "Screw you guys, I'm going home."

    Republicans as Cartman makes a lot of sense, really.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Boehner and McConnell have approval ratings that are only slightly higher then the Devil. They can propose whatever stupid shit they want, it won't matter.

    It's 10 points higher last time I saw Cheney's approvals.

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  • TachTach Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I'm just gonna type his name as "Boner" from now on. Seriously, it fits better, and is easier to type.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Their spending cuts seem to center around the general category of "things that actually help people". Actually, that really seems to encapsulate the priorities of the party in general. If it helps anyone beyond making rich people richer or making Christians less tolerant, it's unessential.

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  • kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    "No, I expect it'll be out next week," he said, though the House is expected to vote on the budget next week. "But understand that a budget really is a one-page document. It's just a bunch of numbers."

    I will note that the 2008 Federal Budget is as far as I can tell a 64 page document.

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  • SavantSavant Simply Barbaric Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Everything I've heard about this suggests that it is a complete joke. To the extent that the reporters should have dropped what they were carrying so they could have pointed and laughed at them at the press conference.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I like Wonkette's nickname for him

    The Orange Smoke Monster.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    Wait, wait.

    It drops the top tax rate from 35% to 25%?

    Seriously?

    No, seriously?

    When does the GOP start guffawing and yell, "Ha, we totally got you there!"?

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  • TachTach Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Actually, now that I think about it- he's less like Cartman, and more the Chief of the Underpants Gnomes.

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  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Not to mention the GOP's new alternate plan for the banking crisis is eerily similar to Krugman's nationalization rants.

    I really don't know what to make of the party of "small government" demanding that receivership is the better option.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Not to mention the GOP's new alternate plan for the banking crisis is eerily similar to Krugman's nationalization rants.

    I really don't know what to make of the party of "small government" demanding that receivership is the better option.

    I read this one. Notwithstanding the fact that they're throwing the 'small government' mantra out the window with it, it's nice to see they finally have a plan that resembles something that could be considered sane.

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  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Boehner and McConnell have approval ratings that are only slightly higher then the Devil. They can propose whatever stupid shit they want, it won't matter.

    It's 10 points higher last time I saw Cheney's approvals.
    FAVORABLE UNFAVORABLE DON'T KNOW NET CHANGE
    McCONNELL: 19 (20) 54 (53) 27 (27) -2
    BOEHNER: 13 (14) 57 (55) 30 (31) -3

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  • kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    The reporters did appear to be snickering and generally amused that all he had was bullet points of the shit they'd like to put in a budget, and were declaring it the answer to Obama's "you bitches don't even have a budget plan"

    Because, you know, when someone says your book report isn't even done, the response isn't to show them you're halfway through reading the book.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    kildy wrote: »
    The reporters did appear to be snickering and generally amused that all he had was bullet points of the shit they'd like to put in a budget, and were declaring it the answer to Obama's "you bitches don't even have a budget plan"

    Because, you know, when someone says your book report isn't even done, the response isn't to show them you're halfway through reading the book.

    At least it wasn't written on a cocktail napkin.

    ...

    Was it?

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  • kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    They had a blue folder for it. No details if it was a bound folder, or just loose leaf paper.

    Bonus points for pencil, and red pen marks with GOOD JOB on it.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    kildy wrote: »
    The reporters did appear to be snickering and generally amused that all he had was bullet points of the shit they'd like to put in a budget, and were declaring it the answer to Obama's "you bitches don't even have a budget plan"

    Because, you know, when someone says your book report isn't even done, the response isn't to show them you're halfway through reading the book.
    • Cut Taxes
    • ???
    • Success!
    :?:

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    That press conference is like... Jesus I don't know it's so ludicrous
    I mean Christ Pubs at least put in the effort of appearing knowledgeable

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  • TachTach Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    moniker wrote: »
    kildy wrote: »
    The reporters did appear to be snickering and generally amused that all he had was bullet points of the shit they'd like to put in a budget, and were declaring it the answer to Obama's "you bitches don't even have a budget plan"

    Because, you know, when someone says your book report isn't even done, the response isn't to show them you're halfway through reading the book.
    • Cut Taxes
    • ???
    • Success!
    :?:
    Tach wrote: »
    Actually, now that I think about it- he's less like Cartman, and more the Chief of the Underpants Gnomes.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
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    The rest of you, I fucking hate you for the fact that I now have a blue dot on this god awful thread.
  • PicardathonPicardathon Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    PantsB wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Boehner and McConnell have approval ratings that are only slightly higher then the Devil. They can propose whatever stupid shit they want, it won't matter.

    It's 10 points higher last time I saw Cheney's approvals.
    FAVORABLE UNFAVORABLE DON'T KNOW NET CHANGE
    McCONNELL: 19 (20) 54 (53) 27 (27) -2
    BOEHNER: 13 (14) 57 (55) 30 (31) -3

    To be fair, those are quite comparable to Pelosi and Reid.
    People just hate Congress.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Scalfin wrote: »

    So will we see Boehner be thrown under the bus for this because of the reception his plan received?

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  • kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Okay, this is just embarassing. He dropped that "expect one page, it's just numbers" shit about the budget specifics line, and the GOP plan is 19 fucking pages long. At least say you only need to finish a few more pages or some shit.

    From the politico link:
    http://www.gop.gov/solutions/budget/road-to-recovery-final

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  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    PantsB wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Boehner and McConnell have approval ratings that are only slightly higher then the Devil. They can propose whatever stupid shit they want, it won't matter.

    It's 10 points higher last time I saw Cheney's approvals.
    FAVORABLE UNFAVORABLE DON'T KNOW NET CHANGE
    McCONNELL: 19 (20) 54 (53) 27 (27) -2
    BOEHNER: 13 (14) 57 (55) 30 (31) -3

    To be fair, those are quite comparable to Pelosi and Reid.
    People just hate Congress.

    Same source
    PELOSI: 39 (38) 41 (42) 20 (20) 2
    REID: 34 (33) 47 (46) 19 (21) 0
    {-2,-13} is significantly better than {-35,-44}

    Similarly
    CONGRESSIONAL DEMS: 44 (43) 48 (49) 8 (8) 2
    CONGRESSIONAL GOPS: 17 (16) 72 (71) 11 (13) 0

    DEMOCRATIC PARTY: 53 (55) 39 (38) 8 (7) -3
    REPUBLICAN PARTY: 27 (29) 65 (66) 8 (5) -1

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  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Aegis wrote: »
    Scalfin wrote: »

    So will we see Boehner be thrown under the bus for this because of the reception his plan received?
    I could see this starting a slide where Boehner steps down and then Pence and Cantor fight it out (I'd give Pence the advantage) over House leadership.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    PantsB wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Boehner and McConnell have approval ratings that are only slightly higher then the Devil. They can propose whatever stupid shit they want, it won't matter.

    It's 10 points higher last time I saw Cheney's approvals.
    FAVORABLE UNFAVORABLE DON'T KNOW NET CHANGE
    McCONNELL: 19 (20) 54 (53) 27 (27) -2
    BOEHNER: 13 (14) 57 (55) 30 (31) -3

    To be fair, those are quite comparable to Pelosi and Reid.
    People just hate Congress.

    Actually from the same poll:
    PELOSI:	39 (38)	41 (42)	20 (20)	2
    REID:	34 (33)	47 (46)	19 (21)	0
    

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  • kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Err, reading that PDF. The entire Creates Jobs section is "cut taxes on corporations"? Like, the whole thing is Lower Taxes .... JOBS!

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    PantsB wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Boehner and McConnell have approval ratings that are only slightly higher then the Devil. They can propose whatever stupid shit they want, it won't matter.

    It's 10 points higher last time I saw Cheney's approvals.
    FAVORABLE UNFAVORABLE DON'T KNOW NET CHANGE
    McCONNELL: 19 (20) 54 (53) 27 (27) -2
    BOEHNER: 13 (14) 57 (55) 30 (31) -3

    To be fair, those are quite comparable to Pelosi and Reid.
    People just hate Congress.
    CBS wrote:
    Pelosi:
    Favorable: 18%
    Not favorable: 35%
    Don’t know/no opinion: 47%

    About 20 points better in the unfavourables.

    Also:
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  • iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Cornfield? Cornfield.Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Scalfin wrote: »
    “In his egocentric rush to get on camera, Mike Pence threw the rest of the Conference under the bus, specifically Paul Ryan, whose staff has been working night and day for weeks to develop a substantive budget plan," said a GOP aide heavily involved in budget strategy.
    Yessssss, keep kicking Pence in the junk you other members of the GOP. Please, please, please!

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    What's wrong with Pence? I don't know him that much, compared to Boehner, McConnel, and Cantor.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    What is the basis for the idea that reducing taxes will increase jobs?

    Empirical evidence suggests that putting more money in hands of the lower and middle classes increases the buying power of the largest consumer sector in the country. Why are we expected to believe that putting more money in the hands of the richest will provide for more job growth than simply giving their businesses more customers?

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    There's one more picture of a windmill than there are charts of numbers. And there's exactly one picture of a windmill

    Damn, son.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Aegis wrote: »
    What's wrong with Pence? I don't know him that much, compared to Boehner, McConnel, and Cantor.

    He's an enormous idiot.

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  • MalaysianShrewMalaysianShrew Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    It's because we don't want the rich to "go galt" like they've been threatening.

    Honestly, though, how does this not disenfranchise most of the republican base? The social right wingers are generally from poor rural areas. I just don't get it.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    What is the basis for the idea that reducing taxes will increase jobs?

    Empirical evidence suggests that putting more money in hands of the lower and middle classes increases the buying power of the largest consumer sector in the country. Why are we expected to believe that putting more money in the hands of the richest will provide for more job growth than simply giving their businesses more customers?

    Because if you interpret Christina Romer's findings in a particularly stupid way (namely, that the relationship between tax rates and job growth is linear and functions the same in boom times as it does in a bust) you get that result.

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    wait, can people that are no longer in office still have approval ratings?

    I wonder what my approval ratings are

    DO YOU APPROVE OF THE JOB CASUAL EDDY IS DOING

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  • HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    When does the GOP post their complete plan?

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  • iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Cornfield? Cornfield.Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Aegis wrote: »
    What's wrong with Pence? I don't know him that much, compared to Boehner, McConnel, and Cantor.
    See bum's post. Those 2 links are a pretty good summation.

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