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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited August 2010
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Man, it is impossible to find a Wonder Woman logo tee in a mans cut. Why they be hatin?

    I know, right? And the mens ones are ugly shit like Alex Ross designs

    there are so many awesome baby-doll Wonder Woman tees but I'm trying to conceal my boobs, not accentuate them

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    LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    So the new costume is way cooler without the jacket
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    But I don't know about Wonder Woman slicing up a bunch of bad guys with swords. It just seems like the lazy shorthand way of making her cool is to give her a sword and have her warrior-out.

    Also, I was hoping that she would prove the gods wrong and save everyone. It's weird, JMS has her call out all the cliches (Gods always saying they have a plan and being purposely mysterious, gods never being proactive, gods being actually very limited in how they can help for plot purposes) but then doesn't do anything to subvert that. Aphrodite tells her she can't save everyone, and I was really hoping she would, just to turn things on their head a little bit. Instead, the predictable Amazon that had the most lines gets killed in battle, and Diana learns a very important lesson about accepting harsh realities and burdens and blah etc we know.

    Overall: Not bad, but not exciting.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Wonder Woman has always used a sword.

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    CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    It was always stupid when they got a sword or axe and DON'T use it.

    This isn't Ninja Turtles for kiddies in the 80's/90's, if she has a blade she darn well should put it to good use, the whole disarming thing while keeping them alive always made me roll my eyes.

    Besides if she can decapitate Medusa with an axe as she once did then why not people, being human doesn't make some people any less of a monster.

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    LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Wonder Woman has always used a sword.

    That's what I'm saying. It has always seemed like some writers like to go straight to the sword, shield & armor to get some easy cool points. I'm really hoping for more distinct characterization of Wonder Woman other than "the one that gets medieval on people."

    I'm not saying she has to get the sword and then be non lethal, it's just that she beat the whole platoon before with punches. It doesn't make sense with how big of a deal they made with Max Lord's death if, in reality, she's allowed to just kill a whole bunch of mercenaries.

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    The hubbub about her killing Maxwell Lord should just be ignored, as it wasn't a very good plot point.

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    Max Lord...
    Seems to be getting better in Power Girl.

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    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm still not sure about this JMS arc. I mean, its very obviously better than his Superman. But as a story of its own, I'm not sure what I think.

    I had completely forgotten everything that happened last issue and when WW shows up at that temple, I was like "wtf."

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited August 2010
    Max Lord...
    Seems to be getting better in Power Girl.

    Uh, he was brought back to life in Blackest Night and is the main antagonist in Justice League: Generation Lost

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    Ah, ones I didn't read.

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    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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    ManonvonSuperockManonvonSuperock Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Lux wrote: »
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    I find the straps, much like the rest of the costume, superfluous.

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    LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Listen, she went like 70 years without any straps to hold up her chest.

    She's gotta make up for lost time.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    The straps are so she can shoot up Amazon super soldier serum in the middle of battle.

    Or she's wearing magical Greek sandals on her arms.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Lux wrote: »
    Listen, she went like 70 years without any straps to hold up her chest.

    She's gotta make up for lost time.

    And with that chest, one would presume she would desire support.

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    WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Immortal goddesses don't sag, I would suspect.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Immortal goddesses don't sag, I would suspect.

    Probably not, but it's all the running and jumping I'm thinking about. Don't want them getting in your way!

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    LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    On Wonder Woman 603:

    This is the point in the story where I would like to know why everything has happened, as opposed to keeping it a mystery for a year plus. I'm finding it really hard to care why, in the latest issue, a random naked human balrog dropped fire from a plane to challenge Diana. Or why she went to Hell for a few pages with no immediate consequences or relevance to the story.

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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The mystery part of it hasn't really been bothering me too much. The plot has been moving along at what seems like a decent pace to me, and the trip to hell wasn't entirely unexplained or without purpose. I mean, we learned that not only are things different on earth, but they are also apparently different in the realms of the gods. Hades (the deity) is missing and Hades (the location) is in disarray. That's probably important information.

    We also found out that there is a plan in place for Diana. The way Charon says "Feast on others if you wish, but this one is not for you" leads me to believe that there are greater forces at work here.

    Overall, I enjoyed this week's issue and I've been enjoying the entire JMS run so far on Wonder Woman.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    When you guys mention a trip to hell, did she do this via her often overlooked ability to hop dimensions? She can be on Earth and then decide she wants to visit some world of gods and she just wrinkles he nose (not really) and she's there.

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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    No, she was fighting some demon things called Keres which were visible only in the spiritual realm. The women she was escorting could not see them. To everyone else it looked like she was punching and kicking at thin air. But they knew she was fighting something because she had a shield and they could hear the clanks and thuds of her making shield-blocks.

    The Keres basically grabbed her soul and dragged her down to Hades.

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    LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    The mystery part of it hasn't really been bothering me too much. The plot has been moving along at what seems like a decent pace to me, and the trip to hell wasn't entirely unexplained or without purpose. I mean, we learned that not only are things different on earth, but they are also apparently different in the realms of the gods. Hades (the deity) is missing and Hades (the location) is in disarray. That's probably important information.

    We also found out that there is a plan in place for Diana. The way Charon says "Feast on others if you wish, but this one is not for you" leads me to believe that there are greater forces at work here.

    Overall, I enjoyed this week's issue and I've been enjoying the entire JMS run so far on Wonder Woman.

    Oh, I'm sure it's all relevant to the trade and coming back at some point, but I couldn't help but have the same feeling I had when I watched NBC's The Event. All question marks and no reason to care.

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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    You're looking way too far ahead here. Just enjoy the story in the issue. We've got some exiled women in some serious trouble, and they are being hunted by an army and pursued by demons all at the same time. There's plenty to enjoy in this story without having all the answers.

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited October 2010
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    CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    WW fans won't accept it because OMG it's not Lynda Carter.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    hope the wonder woman tv show is as great as the aquaman tv show

    oh wait

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    That pilot had Lou Diamond Phillips and Ving Rhames.

    Respect.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I will never respect Lou Diamond Phillips

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    WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    TLB I am shocked

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Possible Drew Johnson drawn fill-in arc coming up in WW?

    This was the story that was written by the person who wrote the WW animated DVD which people loved, and seems to be an inventory story that will soon see release in the regular title, as per what the inker of the book has said. Or either a fill-in or a stand alone mini series possibly.

    That would be lovely to see the DCU animated writer trump the bigger name Hollywood guy in terms of getting WW.

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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Possible Drew Johnson drawn fill-in arc coming up in WW?

    This was the story that was written by the person who wrote the WW animated DVD which people loved, and seems to be an inventory story that will soon see release in the regular title, as per what the inker of the book has said. Or either a fill-in or a stand alone mini series possibly.

    That would be lovely to see the DCU animated writer trump the bigger name Hollywood guy in terms of getting WW.

    Would definitely agree Tex. The JMS story has been alright, but its certainly nothing special.

    Actually though, Gail Simone is credited with the story of the DVD movie. This other guy just wrote the screenplay.

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    LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Possible Drew Johnson drawn fill-in arc coming up in WW?

    This was the story that was written by the person who wrote the WW animated DVD which people loved, and seems to be an inventory story that will soon see release in the regular title, as per what the inker of the book has said. Or either a fill-in or a stand alone mini series possibly.

    That would be lovely to see the DCU animated writer trump the bigger name Hollywood guy in terms of getting WW.

    Would definitely agree Tex. The JMS story has been alright, but its certainly nothing special.

    Actually though, Gail Simone is credited with the story of the DVD movie. This other guy just wrote the screenplay.

    Yeah, he added stuff like the weird Man vs. Woman gender debate they have at the bar.

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