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[Let's Play] Final Fantasy IX: The World Is My Oyster (Updated 06/06)

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  • Fig-DFig-D Tustin, CA, USRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Is there a term for a character who exists solely to further the background development of another character? Call her that, because outside of the times where she is your only real healer she's pretty fucking useless. Her and Amarant both. I like the assassin-monk types in FF games, but it does feel like he was just thrown in there because they needed the "quiet lone-wolf not evil but not really good" character.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Fig-D wrote: »
    Is there a term for a character who exists solely to further the background development of another character? Call her that, because outside of the times where she is your only real healer she's pretty fucking useless. Her and Amarant both. I like the assassin-monk types in FF games, but it does feel like he was just thrown in there because they needed the "quiet lone-wolf not evil but not really good" character.

    She's an intelligent, wild kid who lives on their own and can't really dress properly?

    "Gau".

    Uwaooo~!
    By the way, I was looking at the scene in FF6 where Gau meets Sabin and Cyan.

    Gau: Gau's treasure... shiny, shiny!! Shiny, shiny, shiny!!!
    Sabin: Can anything be THAT shiny?
    Gau: Does Mr. Thou like shiny thing?

    Heh. Shiny.

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  • Curse-TenCurse-Ten Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Actually next to Vivi, Eiko was my favorite character. She and her summons are more defensive which I like better in a white mage. My party was usually Zidane,Freya,Vivi and Eiko and let me tell you, when you forget that Ispen's castle drains all your magic and were really hoping that Vivi and Eiko were going to pull you through you start to go a little insane. I came out of that scarred for one reason.

    Thought it was going to be hard, with no moogle, used four ethers to pump up Vivi and Eiko, and then found out there was a moogle inside and you can't use magic. I'm super stingy with Ethers too, I actually refused to use ethers on HADES just because I was afraid of losing them all.

    Vivi: Can I have an ether?
    Me: NO!
    Vivi: But I need those to live!
    Me: NEVER!

    You should name Eiko, Ballon, because of her pants, or Ether. I do like Charlie though.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Auron was the brightest part of FFX.

    Also, those motivational poster type things appear if you leave the game on at the start screen without pressing anything. Also, they don't show up until you meet the relevant character.

    It actually bugged me, because a few of those sayings had nothing to do with the character. I don't even think that they're quotes.

    Uhh... they're all incredibly relevant to each character. Most importantly Zidane, Vivi, Garnet, and Freya.

    I was going to say this exactly but got sidetracked by something shiny. Absolutely spot on.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Name her Hooker.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Auron was the brightest part of FFX.

    Also, those motivational poster type things appear if you leave the game on at the start screen without pressing anything. Also, they don't show up until you meet the relevant character.

    It actually bugged me, because a few of those sayings had nothing to do with the character. I don't even think that they're quotes.

    Uhh... they're all incredibly relevant to each character. Most importantly Zidane, Vivi, Garnet, and Freya.

    I was going to say this exactly but got sidetracked by something shiny. Absolutely spot on.

    Spot on? Certainly not Vivi's and Garnet's. Zidane, Freya, Eiko and Quina's posters make sense, but the others are pretty inappropriate. The out-of-context faux-quotes seem like the work of a marketing guy who never played the game.


    Vivi's freaked out about being inhuman; he is not existential.

    Garnet worries that her own weaknesses will hurt the people she loves; "being herself" in spite of her royal status is irrelevant to her character's actual struggles.

    Steiner clearly doesn't mind serving the royal family for life, at all.

    For Amarant, "The only dependable thing about the future is uncertainty" has little to do with his arrogance.

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  • APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Vivi's whole storyline is about the meanine of life in general. He struggles with being a black mage throughout, but his key struggle is actually understanding why he's there.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Yeah, Vivi's whole thing is about whether he's really alive or not.

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    kedinik wrote: »
    Auron was the brightest part of FFX.

    Also, those motivational poster type things appear if you leave the game on at the start screen without pressing anything. Also, they don't show up until you meet the relevant character.

    It actually bugged me, because a few of those sayings had nothing to do with the character. I don't even think that they're quotes.

    Uhh... they're all incredibly relevant to each character. Most importantly Zidane, Vivi, Garnet, and Freya.

    I was going to say this exactly but got sidetracked by something shiny. Absolutely spot on.

    Spot on? Certainly not Vivi's and Garnet's. Zidane, Freya, Eiko and Quina's posters make sense, but the others are pretty inappropriate. The out-of-context faux-quotes seem like the work of a marketing guy who never played the game.


    Vivi's freaked out about being inhuman; he is not existential.

    Garnet worries that her own weaknesses will hurt the people she loves; "being herself" in spite of her royal status is irrelevant to her character's actual struggles.

    Steiner clearly doesn't mind serving the royal family for life, at all.

    For Amarant, "The only dependable thing about the future is uncertainty" has little to do with his arrogance.
    Vivi constantly questions the nature of his existence, therefore his quote is entirely relevant. Garnet DOES fret about being torn to her loyalty to Alexandria and being a carefree woman (a big part of why she wanted Zidane to kidnap her). Steiner eventually loses his grip with wanting to serve Garnet after he falls for Beatrix, and realizes there is more to life than just eternal servitude (Which is why he worries about living his entire life in fealty).

    Amarant's is the only one that's a stretch, if only because his only character development is in Ipsen's Castle. However, his character finds no solace in other people and therefore the only reason he keeps going and doing what he does is because he has no idea what the future has in store for him.

    They're all pretty fucking accurate, ESPECIALLY Vivi and Freya.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Vivi questions the nature of his life, sure, but I don't recall his ever questioning that he exists.

    Garnet sought her own kidnapping exclusively to ask for Cid's help in saving Alexandria from Brahne's madness; she runs away for the sake of her duty, not to escape it.

    Does Steiner's sense of duty falter when he falls for Beatrix? I recall them jointly questioning whether Brahne was fit to receive their protection, but they instead opt to serve Garnet in much the same way. They wondered who to serve, not whether they should serve.

    Perhaps I'm focusing too much on nuances and perhaps I'm not recalling a few choice conversations, but I feel a disconnect. The slogans usually seem close to the mark while missing the point.

    For what it's worth, I agree that Freya's poster is particularly apt.

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  • APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    kedinik wrote: »
    Vivi questions the nature of his life, sure, but I don't recall his ever questioning that he exists.

    He does a lot, it's just subtle. QTEs back at his grandpas house, black mage village, etc.
    Garnet sought her own kidnapping exclusively to ask for Cid's help in saving Alexandria from Brahne's madness; she runs away for the sake of her duty, not to escape it.
    Garnet's thoughts on being Queen come later on when she becomes queen and refuses to even talk to Zidane & the party for like half a disc out of fear of clouding her judgement and not doing her duty and carries on for quite a while.
    Does Steiner's sense of duty falter when he falls for Beatrix? I recall them jointly questioning whether Brahne was fit to receive their protection, but they instead opt to serve Garnet in much the same way. They wondered who to serve, not whether they should serve.

    Steiner's questioning his duty really happens early on, really, with him questioning if he trusts Garnet and the party or if he should follow Brahne's orders. As he sees more and more of Brahne's deeds, he slowly cracks.

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  • That Guy ThereThat Guy There Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I obsessively went through each update and remembered how much I liked this game. Really, Zidane always seemed like a more interesting character than Cloud or Squall.

    Any time frame for the next update?

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I obsessively went through each update and remembered how much I liked this game. Really, Zidane always seemed like a more interesting character than Cloud or Squall.

    Any time frame for the next update?

    Early tomorrow, probably.

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  • That Guy ThereThat Guy There Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I obsessively went through each update and remembered how much I liked this game. Really, Zidane always seemed like a more interesting character than Cloud or Squall.

    Any time frame for the next update?

    Early tomorrow, probably.

    Fantastic. Thanks for the awesome LP btw.

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  • BelechanBelechan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Blame me for making him do Ulduar.

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  • That Guy ThereThat Guy There Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Oh god dammit. Fucking WoW. I can't tell you how happy I am that I left that game years ago. Played it from release for about a year and half, maybe two years. Had some great times but got bored out of my mind after beating all the end game stuff for fun. It was then that I realized the game was nothing more than a perpetual boredom grind for the shiniest, newest armor only to have it become obsolete by the next update.

    ....sorry for the rant.

    Anyway, can't wait for more of the LP!

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  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Garnet sought her own kidnapping exclusively to ask for Cid's help in saving Alexandria from Brahne's madness; she runs away for the sake of her duty, not to escape it.
    Garnet's thoughts on being Queen come later on when she becomes queen and refuses to even talk to Zidane & the party for like half a disc out of fear of clouding her judgement and not doing her duty and carries on for quite a while.
    I feel I should add that Garnet doesn't want to run off to Lindblum because she's worried about Alexandria. She's worried about her mother, and doesn't give two shits about anything else.
    She doesn't start worrying about her royal duties until Brahne bites it and Alexandria gets raped by Bahamut. And, as I recall, she still manages to not do anything of worth for the city until the game ends, at which point she's probably just killing time that she expected to be spent sexing up Zidane.

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  • AdusAdus Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Oh god dammit. Fucking WoW. I can't tell you how happy I am that I left that game years ago. Played it from release for about a year and half, maybe two years. Had some great times but got bored out of my mind after beating all the end game stuff for fun. It was then that I realized the game was nothing more than a perpetual boredom grind for the shiniest, newest armor only to have it become obsolete by the next update.

    ....sorry for the rant.

    Anyway, can't wait for more of the LP!

    Was that rant really necessary? Some people play the game with friends, like he does with us. I'd like to think he enjoys doing so. I'm also fairly sure it has little to do with the speed of the updates.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Monger wrote: »
    Garnet sought her own kidnapping exclusively to ask for Cid's help in saving Alexandria from Brahne's madness; she runs away for the sake of her duty, not to escape it.
    Garnet's thoughts on being Queen come later on when she becomes queen and refuses to even talk to Zidane & the party for like half a disc out of fear of clouding her judgement and not doing her duty and carries on for quite a while.
    I feel I should add that Garnet doesn't want to run off to Lindblum because she's worried about Alexandria. She's worried about her mother, and doesn't give two shits about anything else.
    She doesn't start worrying about her royal duties until Brahne bites it and Alexandria gets raped by Bahamut. And, as I recall, she still manages to not do anything of worth for the city until the game ends, at which point she's probably just killing time that she expected to be spent sexing up Zidane.

    You both make good points regarding Garnet and I admit there's some merit to what you're saying. I'll keep an eye out for relevant details the next time I play through.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I hope my title/location av/sig doesn't give anything away. It shouldn't really.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It's me
    I'm the one sending love letters
    I love you, Awesome. <3

    Edit: And yes, WoW evil and is to blame for how 'late' the update is. Also, my Warhammer miniatures that need painting, the five books I checked out from the library that I keep next to my bed...

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It's me
    I'm the one sending love letters
    I love you, Awesome. <3
    Real spoiler?
    My girlfriend posts here with a Beatrix av.

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  • That Guy ThereThat Guy There Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Adus wrote: »
    Oh god dammit. Fucking WoW. I can't tell you how happy I am that I left that game years ago. Played it from release for about a year and half, maybe two years. Had some great times but got bored out of my mind after beating all the end game stuff for fun. It was then that I realized the game was nothing more than a perpetual boredom grind for the shiniest, newest armor only to have it become obsolete by the next update.

    ....sorry for the rant.

    Anyway, can't wait for more of the LP!

    Was that rant really necessary? Some people play the game with friends, like he does with us. I'd like to think he enjoys doing so. I'm also fairly sure it has little to do with the speed of the updates.

    No, the rant was definitely not necessary, just a personal bias against the game which has little to nothing to do with others :D

    Edit : Keep in mind I never mentioned an update being 'late,' only that I eagerly look forward to them :D

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  • AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Beh, I just feel like they could've used quotes from the characters that actually better described them. While some of them may be something you could attach to the characters, I don't feel like many of them capture the character entirely.

    Garnet makes no allusion to wanting to secure her individuality until after she becomes Queen. Vivi's quote has little to do with the actual dilemmas that he's going through, which has much less to do with existence than it has to do with person-hood. Steiner never questions the act of living in servitude, he questions whether or not he's serving the right goals. Amarant's really just has little to do with him at all.

    I just get the feeling that the person who picked the quotes was working off a second-hand account of the characters. They would be much better off picking exemplary quotes from the characters themselves.

    EDIT:
    That said, some of them are spot on, like Zidane's.

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Vivi CONTINUOUSLY questions his own existence. We've stated this numerous times!! After he learns that he is nothing more than a prototype Black Mage doll, and not a real living creature, he begins to question whether he actually exists or not, by the model of humanity.

    I really don't get how this is not getting through to you. Vivi's problems are indeed rooted in existentialism... unless everyone who analyzed his character was just flat out wrong.

    From the ATE, "Vivi's Feelings":

    Vivi: "Mr. 288 told me that I understand what it
    means to live and to die..."

    "But it's only because I thought
    stopping was different from dying..."

    "I don't think I really understand
    what it means to live and to die."

    "Where do we come from...?
    Do we go back there when we die...?"

    "If that's what it means to live...
    I wonder where I came from...?"


    "Where will I end up when I die...?"

    "Why am I shaking...?"

    "What is it that I'm feeling...?"

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Vivi continuously questions the nature of his existence, not the fact that he exists. He assumes that fact as being obvious, cogito ergo sum-style.

    Your bolded quotes illustrate that he assumes his own existence but does not understand what it means to live and die.

    The faux-quote "Maybe we don't exist..." questions whether or not anything is real in any sense of the word, missing the point of his internal struggle with understanding life and death.

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  • AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Vivi is wondering about the nature of life and death, and what it means to be alive. He exists and he knows that he exists, but it's not at all well defined whether or not he's alive since he was a created being.

    "Do I exist?" is not a question he would've asked. "Am I alive?" is one that he would have.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Update 16: You May Kiss The Bride
    Holy shit, an update so big I had to split it into two posts. I should hire an editor.
    We travel from the Black Mage Village back to Conde Petie.
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    "Ookae. I wanna gaet throo here."
    "..."
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    He tells us to go find His Holiness. Where is His Holiness? Who knows!

    He's in the hallway near the Inn though. Not exactly hard to find. Also, he's one of the only dwarves with a beard (yeah, I know!) so he kind of sticks out.
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    That's a little racist. Or speciesist. I'm not sure which.

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    "Wun hundred weddings nets us a free pizza! It's what drives oor race forward!"

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    "The quickest scene change ever."
    "What do you-"

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    "Holy shit!"
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    Wait what's going on? Oh, it's a flashback to before the ceremony. I thought dwarves learned how to teleport.

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    I think Bowie's reluctance to getting married is well-founded. I mean, they haven't even had sex yet. Marriage is when the sex stops.

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    He leapt into the air as he tried to embrace her and fell, it was very Lupin III-esque. I'm pretty sure that last line is a quote.

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    "Damn kids! Go to your room and play, your mother and I are trying to have some alone time."

    Bowie of course has an idea.
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    ...Bowie has another idea, right?

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    There's really nothing for me to say. Someone then yells out, "Thief!"

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    They happily stand aside for us.
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    ...and then someone small runs by, along with a moogle, amidst cries of "Stop! Thief!"

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    Apparently it's forbidden. I think they're just lazy.

    Onward to...the next screen. DUN DUN DUNNN.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN7BJ_jESyg
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    Oh aren't you just adorable. There's no chance we're just going to leave her up there, is there?

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    D:
    You wouldn't!
    No leaps across the ledge with a thud, causing the little thief to fall, but Bowie catches her in his arms.

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    Meet Pants, everyone!
    After a short introduction, Pants reveals that she was stealing from the town because she was hungry. This makes sense.

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    Okay, two things.
    1. Everyone automatically assumes that No is some sort of gender-ambiguous thing. I mean, No is, but still, it seems weird that straight off the bat she knows to refer to him/her like that.
    2. Are you fucking kidding me, Shiny? Seriously? You've seen No eat giant bugs, giant lizards, giant frogs, regular frogs, dragons, griffons, hobgoblins, treasure chests, the living dead...but a moogle, oh deary me no! That just shocks the conscience, No would NEVER do that!
    Face it kid, the moogle's gone.

    Shiny: "Why don't we take her home?"

    Bowie: "Yes, yes... Anything for my lovely wife."

    Pants: "You two are married!?"

    Bowie: "Yep, we're newlyweds."
    Shiny: "No, no. We're just friends."

    Bowie: "Well, I guess that's better than nothing..."

    Pants: "I wanna be your friend, too!"

    Bowie: "Alright, then, let's go to our new friend's house."

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    Suddenly, the ground shakes! Boss fight out of nowhere!
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    What the FUCK he's wearing pink underwear. What the fuck.
    This is Hilgigars and he's goddammit he's wearing pink underwear and one of his moves involves him jumping and sitting on someone. He's kind of annoying. He casts Earthquake a lot, Shiny casts Float, never shall the twain meet.
    Vivi spends most of the fight Focusing, and then as it so happens, he Trances.
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    Doublecast Bio saves the day.

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    Pants says that her grandfather and everyone else could too and points out that the place that Bowie and friends (and the dwarves) call the Sanctuary is actually called the Iifa Tree.
    There's some treasure in this place and it's a bit confusing because it's multitiered. Finding four colored stones and putting them into this thing drops out a Moonstone, which teaches, I forget. Something.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3TKCB64PPM&feature=related

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    Pants has many moogles at her beck and call.

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    "Okay, but, I mean, he shrank. Really small. And spun into your open giant poofy pants. Or something."

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    Oh boy.
    Pants offers to cook a meal for the team, and tells them to not go far. Bowie agrees, wanting to know more about the weirdly-named girl with the ability to summon eidolons.
    I mean Pants. Although that description does fit equally well for Shiny.

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    Vivi: "Mr. 288 told me that I understand what it means to live and
    to die... But it's only because I thought stopping was
    different from dying... I don't think I really understand
    what it means to live and to die. Where do we come from...?
    Do we go back there when we die...? If that's what it means
    to live... I wonder where I came from...? Where will I end
    up when I die...? Why am I shaking...? What is this that I'm
    feeling...?"

    :(

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    Man, you people have a lot of feelings!

    Shiny: "A village of summoners... I read about them in a book
    once... A tribe that possessed the power to call forth
    eidolons... Eidolons... Knowing that I had eidolons inside
    me didn't bring me any joy. Mother imprisoned me...used
    the eidolons she stole from me as tools of war. I thought
    I would kill my eidolons if Kuja was going to use them for
    war... But now they're gone... I feel like I've lost a
    piece of myself... Why am I thinking all this now...? It
    must be the location. This place feels so familiar to me
    somehow..."

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    Among Bowie's many skills are knowing the exact date that buildings turned into rubble.

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    TOO MANY FEELINGS
    I almost miss killing jolly green giants that wear pink underpants.
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    This is perhaps the most devious six-year old ever.
    Pants goes on ordering the moogles to help her do different chores for cooking (we get to choose which go fishing, digging up potatoes, ect)
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    There's another ATE after Bowie runs around for a moment called Pants's Kitchen, where we need to decide how many people to feed. 11 sounds right. The moogle asked to fish caught something. It was No, eating the bait.
    That's our No! *laugh track*

    In the meantime, Pants suggests we go visit the Eidolon Wall, since dinner is taking longer than she thought. Bowie gets Shiny and heads there.
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    Shiny gets kind of sad though, being surrounded by the eidolons, reminders of what her mom took from her. Man, you try and take a woman somewhere nice...
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    I gotta say, Morrison is a rocking name for a moogle.

    Another ATE, which isn't important, story-wise, but I kind of like it. I'll spoiler it in case you want to skip it, but No's a chef after my own heart (and stomach).
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    No: "Smell good."

    Pants: "Don't eat anything!"

    No: "The heat too low."

    Pants: "You can cook!?"

    No: "Is my destiny to pursue way of gourmand!"

    Pants: "Th-This must be a helper from above!"

    No: "Hrm... I know how many people live in this
    village. Is Zidane's group, the moogles, and me
    make 11 people. You make food for ___ people
    now. Is too much water... This heat only strong
    enough to make food for 9 people. Was not
    possible to make enough for everyone."

    Pants: "NOOOOOO!"

    No: "I teach you very important lesson in cooking.
    'Always make more than you need.' Maybe more
    people show up. Maybe your guests very hungry. You
    correct to make food for more than 10 people! This
    your own ingredient for stew?"

    Pants: "Mocha went to dig up some rock-fisted potatoes."

    No: "Is problem now with heat. How we get more heat?
    Hmm... Ah! I know! I know black mage. I ask him to
    make fire."

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    Bowie: "Wow, this stew tastes amazing! You should start a restaurant.
    The fish is just right. Hey, Eiko, where are all the other
    summoners? Are they hiding underground or something?"

    Pants: "Underground? Yeah. They're all underground, sleeping the
    eternal sleep."

    Bowie: "What...?"

    Pants: "I'm the last survivor of my tribe. I've been living with
    moogles ever since my grandpa died last year."

    Shiny: "I'm sorry..."

    Pants: "Oh, don't worry about me. I'm really happy here."

    [The moogles all say 'Kupo!']

    Pants: "Ten years ago, which is four years before I was born... A
    natural disaster struck the village. Even the survivors
    suffered a great deal. But my mom and dad fell in love and had
    a family. Not that I remember what they look like, because they
    died when I was very young."

    Bowie: "I see..."

    Pants: "I'm like a beautiful young heroine in turmoil, don't you think?"

    Bowie: "Huh?"

    Pants: "You know why I'm here in this village? It was to meet you,
    Bowie, my beautiful shooting star..."

    Vivi: "Whoa!!! Ahhh!!!"
    Pants: "What is it? Don't interrupt me!"
    Vivi: "There's something in here with feelers..."
    Bowie: "...An oglop?"
    Pants: "Don't you know that oglops are a Conde Petie delicacy?"
    Moogle: "Kupo!"
    Vivi: "......"
    Shiny: "......"
    Bowie: "L-Let's eat the fish. That should be okay."

    After dinner...
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    Turns out that Pants's tribe tried to summon an eidolon long ago, but failed, so they sealed it in the tree. Bowie asks if Pants would break the seal, but she refuses.

    Zidane: "Vivi... You better get some sleep before we leave tomorrow."

    Vivi: "I tried to stop worrying about things, but I just can't. I
    know you told me not to think too much, but..."

    Bowie: "That's because we're different, Vivi. You don't have to do
    everything my way, you know?"

    Vivi: "I want to stop... I don't wanna feel like this anymore. What
    if I keep feeling like this?"

    Bowie: "Vivi... Well...in the end, it boils down to two simple
    choices. Either you do or you don't. You'd think with all the
    problems in this world, there'd be more answers. It's not
    fair... ...but that's the way things are. The choice is yours."

    Vivi: "Bowie..."

    Bowie: "I just wanna protect the people I'm with. Doesn't matter if I
    can or not. It's what I believe in."

    [Pantsis sitting on the kitchen steps and can hear them, but not see
    them on the other side of the building.]

    Pants: "I knew it! I was right! Zidane is the man for me! He's right.
    Either you do, or you don't. My choice is clear! I wanna go with
    Bowie!"

    Then Bowie and Vivi pee off the cliff.
    Yes.
    I mean, I guess that answers some questions, but many more are opened up.

    As the team gets ready to leave, Pants decides to help them break the seal and enter the Iifa Tree. Well, that's good, because we'd be stuck otherwise. It's a quick backtrack through the viiney place we were at before, but going through the other side, and then...

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    There is indeed an invisible shield around this place (which leads me to wonder what the fuck the dwarves do. This is never explained to me.)

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    Pants is a fan of Freezepop songs. She says some incantation (that she confides that was just for show), we get a Ruby (it teaches Reflect and Carbuncle!), and we're off.

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    Iifa Tree music!

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    There's a few screens like this, just running on giant roots or vines.

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    Okay, it's not just me that thinks this looks kind of...wrong, right?

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    The thing in the middle, unsurprisingly, turns out to be an elevator. Bowie go down the elelatorrr.

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    The enemies get tougher as we go down. They also get more undead. This guy looks scary, but I couldn't tell you how many hit points he has, because Phoenix Down reduces the hit points of the undead to single digits. They're annoying as hell, too, they have a Zombie Breath ability that causes the Zombie status (you're undead, so cure spells hurt you, and you don't gain experience after battles), but I only have one Spell Tag to cure it.

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    This place is pretty cool, I must admit. It's a neat dungeon without feeling like a dungeon, you know?
    They find a leaf thing that turns out to be another elevator. It travels around that ever-descending spiral.

    While on the tree, Pants tells us that Mog senses life down below. This doesn't seem very helpful, seeing as we're in a giant tree.
    Also, we're forced to fight some enemies. Shiny hits level 25. Dammit.
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    Maybe you should have read the other updates I did before joining the party then! Hop to it, Pants! And remember to rate my thread a 5!

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    Vivi and Pants run off to go look over the side.
    Really, what is there to see down there that's so intere-
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    Oh. Wow. Alright. That's kind of cool I guess.

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    (He probably won't, though)

    SUDDENLY SCARY SOUNDS AND THE BOSS MUSIC STARTED OH FUCK GO CHECK IT OUT OVER THERE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2nF6qt49dE

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    Yeah, I want to know too! I miss her swaying hips and come-hither look!

    ?????: I do not know.

    Shiny: "What are you doing here!?"

    Bowie: "Are you the one who makes the Mist!?"

    ?????: It is not produced... Mist is a by-product of the refining
    process. It is discharged through the roots.

    Vivi: "Discharged?"

    Shiny: "So it's sent to other continents through the roots, right?"

    Bowie: "But why!? Why would you do that!?"

    ?????: I contaminate the other continents with Mist to stimulate the
    fighting instinct. This, in turn, leads to war among the leaders
    of nations, and then to the fall of civilization. Kuja merely
    puts the by-product to a different use.

    Vivi: "A different use!? What is Kuja trying to do!?"

    ?????: I cannot lie. Kuja used the waste product to make weapons.
    Weapons...like yourself.

    Vivi: "!?"

    Pants: "He's really ticking me off! Can I kill him?"

    Bowie: "Wait, Pants! What kind of weapons did Kuja make?"

    ?????: Kuja called them black mages, dark spawn of the Mist.

    Bowie: "!?"
    Shiny: "So the factory in Dali was really..."

    ?????: Defeat me, and no more Mist will flow. And then no more weapons
    like this puppet will be made. Answer me, puppet. Do you deny
    your very birth?

    Bowie: "Why, you--"

    Vivi: "...... No more!"

    Shiny: "Vivi?"

    Vivi: "I won't let you make any more instruments of murder!"

    Pants: "Way to go, Vivi! I know it must be hard for you. We can knock
    off this rat now, right?"

    Bowie: "Alright! Let's bust him up! Who knows, it might even lure
    Kuja here!"

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    Man, that's quite a lot of fucking buildup. This guy is gonna hurt.

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    This is Soulcage (THE SOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULCAAAAAAGE!)
    He was the easiest boss fight ever. Ever. But that's because I was prepared for him. If I wasn't, he'd be only slightly harder. The first thing that happens in battle is he casts Level 5 Death. Remember when I said "Dammit Shiny's level 25" up there? This is why. She's the only one that dies though. He also tosses around a really cool looking ability called Mustard Bomb that gives someone the Overheat status effect. If they take a single action, they die after the end. Everyone but Pants is immune to it. He never hits her with it. He has some barely-damaging spells that hit everyone, but really, not bad.
    Why's he so easy though, aside from all that?
    He counts as undead.
    I have Phoenix Down.
    Vivi bonks the boss and it dies.
    Dun dun dun DUN dun dundundunnn!

    They run outside, and the Mist recedes.
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    It looks lumpy and ugly to me. :I

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    Vivi: "Bowie... Did I do the right thing? It said that black mages
    are made from the Mist, right? When I thought about how other
    black mages were being made for war... I didn't want that to
    happen, no matter what. Now, there'll be no more new black
    mages. I think they'll all hate me."

    Pants: "No way! Listen to me. You should never lie to yourself. After
    all, your brothers wouldn't want you to do that."

    Vivi: "Do you really think so? Do you think...they'll understand?"

    Pants: "Of course! They're your brothers. It'll be alright.

    SUDDENLY A BOSS FIGHT
    No, wait, it's just a moogle. Apparently someone stole something precious from the village, and Pants runs off so we can wait for Kuja. Bowie however decides to go help her. He's just that kind of guy.

    Part 2 below!

    MinionOfCthulhu on
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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    PART TWO
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    I think if any other person said this, they'd sound like a dick.
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    Pants runs off to pray to her grandparents at the Eidolon Wall for guidance.

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    They hear a scream, interrupting what was undoubtedly going to be a rough and sweaty sex scene. I wonder who it could possibly be.

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    "Once we kick your ass, can you give the rest to me?"

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    Unsurprisingly, Lani stole the stone, noting that it looked similar to the one Brahne wanted. She asks Bowie for Shiny's necklace, but
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKZ79wV5b7s
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    It's true, too. Even when you first go to Treno in Disc 1, you can see wanted posters with his face on them. Neat touch, considering you don't even see him until way later.

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    Lani runs off, of course. I'm sure this is the last time we'll ever see her again!

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    Shiny says something like "Be careful!"

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    This is an easy fight (he doesn't even have the boss music, just normal fight music) even one on one. He doesn't hit too hard, and every now and then he will dodge around the background, counterattacking if hit, before finally hitting for a bit harder than his normal attacks.
    He triggers Bowie's Trance and I blow him up with some flashy awesomeness.

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    BOWIE SEASON!
    AMARANT SEASON!
    BOWIE SEASON!

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    "It's all good, my man."
    Bowie's as chill as a hero can be.

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    I bet he thought that sounded deep. It didn't.

    Scarlet-Haired Man, confused, leaps up and away.

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    "I am, of course, talking about sexual intercourse."

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  • AdusAdus Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Haha, Vivi marrying No was pretty great. I guess I didn't get this far. I'm not recognizing anything anymore. I actually find No pretty funny. At least I find... it... a lot better comic relief than Cait Sith, even if it being hungry is really its only gig.

    Speaking of which, it kind of bothers me how they say s/he in the text. How do you pronounce that? It really breaks the flow. I wish they'd just mention they don't know the gender then choose one for convenience's sake.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    No is great, I didn't really like him too much as a party member the first time I played the game (before I got really into Blue Magic with FFTA) but he is consistantly funny, especially when it has something to do with food.

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Excellent update as usual.

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  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Gold as usual, I like how Shiny was completely insensitive to Vivi in the Iifa Tree, bringing up the black mages.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Adus wrote: »
    Haha, Vivi marrying No was pretty great. I guess I didn't get this far. I'm not recognizing anything anymore. I actually find No pretty funny. At least I find... it... a lot better comic relief than Cait Sith, even if it being hungry is really its only gig.

    I sort of treat No as the butt monkey because someone has to be it, but I really don't mind him/her/it/whatever.
    And don't get me started on Cait Sith. I still don't get him. I didn't really get him when I first played it and time wasn't better. Read your Let's Play, read a script, nadda.

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    When does Awesome come back? Because this could certainly do with him making comments. Just think what racist/caste-ish remarks he'd make about Shiny and Bowie getting hitched.

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  • APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I've always quite liked Quina. Cait Sith is a joke.

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    "Let's change up the party! How about... Yufi and Cait Sith! Just kidding! No one likes you!"

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  • AdusAdus Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Yuffie's actually not bad. Her limits kind of suck, but the Conformer weapon which does more damage depending on the level of the enemy is pretty strong if you're beating the game without overleveling to shit like I just did. She was actually stronger than Cloud.

    Though I guess as a character she is a bit annoying. I liked a fair amount of her lines, though. They were often quite blunt and true.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Awesome's here.

    What's up.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Terrendos wrote: »
    When does Awesome come back? Because this could certainly do with him making comments. Just think what racist/caste-ish remarks he'd make about Shiny and Bowie getting hitched.
    He comes back a little later. Soonish!

    Alright guys!
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    Start thinking of a name for 'The Flaming' Amarant Coral. Yes, he introduces himself as 'The Flaming ______'.
    Oh, how deliciously exploitable!

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