I never used Eiko because it seemed like she was just a poor-man's dagger that you get late in the game. I'm sure I'm wrong though, I used to be really terrible at these games. I played half of FFVIII without junctioning anything. My older brother's friend happened to walk by the TV and saw me and was like "what the fuck are you doing!?" and proceeded to pimp out my characters for me. That was cool.
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My older brother's friend happened to walk by the TV and saw me and was like "what the fuck are you doing!?" and proceeded to pimp out my characters for me. That was cool.
You have a good brother.
I too vote Quina be named No.
Ideally it would be Eiko 'cos she's referenced so much, but frankly there's gotta be something better for her. :P
I'll throw my vote in for "No" as well if that seems to be winning. Names like that have so much potential. Like I said earlier, "Everyone" is a favorite of mine.
"No one can dance like everyone!" "Everyone defeated Bilbo in a duel."
Roguemcstab defeated everyone in a duel.
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HachfaceNot the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking ofDammit, Shepard!Registered Userregular
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Make sure you spell 'no' all lowercase, so it fits in better with most sentences.
Bleh. I saved before I named him/her. I may just start over. It's only like an hour! Half of which I spent stealing from the boss.
No isn't as entertaining as I'd hoped it would be. Capitalized or lowercase, it only works half the time. :I
I never used Eiko because it seemed like she was just a poor-man's dagger that you get late in the game.
Not really. She's a better white mage but a worse summoner, although Phoenix is pretty damn useful. I don't think Dagger can learn Holy or Full-Life but it has been a while since I've played. But Eiko can learn those handy spells so she is in fact useful.
My first runthrough, I did not find Quina until Disc 2. No wonder I died so much! And believe me, that cave dragon killed me a lot. And then Beatrix. :x
My first runthrough, I did not find Quina until Disc 2. No wonder I died so much! And believe me, that cave dragon killed me a lot. And then Beatrix. :x
It never occurred to me that this could happen. Did you miss Qu's Marsh?
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YamiNoSenshiA point called ZIn the complex planeRegistered Userregular
My first runthrough, I did not find Quina until Disc 2. No wonder I died so much! And believe me, that cave dragon killed me a lot. And then Beatrix. :x
It never occurred to me that this could happen. Did you miss Qu's Marsh?
I did this. I didn't even realize it was an area I could go in. That ****ing grotto made me stop playing the game for a while. I went and looked at a FAQ, saw Quina, and went "Who?"
Awesome Let's Play. Keep it up, or I'm come to your house and MAKE you finish.
Bleh. I saved before I named him/her. I may just start over. It's only like an hour! Half of which I spent stealing from the boss.
No isn't as entertaining as I'd hoped it would be. Capitalized or lowercase, it only works half the time. :I
Bah, I'd only ever go back and change a name if the new one was super awesome. I'm not feeling it with this suggestion.
Bleh. I saved before I named him/her. I may just start over. It's only like an hour! Half of which I spent stealing from the boss.
No isn't as entertaining as I'd hoped it would be. Capitalized or lowercase, it only works half the time. :I
Bah, I'd only ever go back and change a name if the new one was super awesome. I'm not feeling it with this suggestion.
I'm not feeling it with the current one! Oh well, I'll soldier on (because I'm lazy). Quina's only used in like one other part of the game if I remember correctly (I may not be).
Well hurry up. Some of us are waiting to see what happens. Specifically, I want to know what happens to Captain Awesome.
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HachfaceNot the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking ofDammit, Shepard!Registered Userregular
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Quina as a character is quite stupid, but as a fighter s/he's unfairly maligned. Lv. 5 Death, Matra Magic, Mighty Guard, Pumpkin Head, and Limit Glove are all very useful. Mighty Guard in particular makes the fight against Gizalamuke a lot easier.
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FencingsaxIt is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understandingGNU Terry PratchettRegistered Userregular
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I never really used Quina much, as I recall. Of course, I'm always terrible with Blue Magic.
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HachfaceNot the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking ofDammit, Shepard!Registered Userregular
I never really used Quina much, as I recall. Of course, I'm always terrible with Blue Magic.
The problem with Blue Magic in 9 is that 1/8 is a very inconvenient fraction to reduce an enemy's HP to. If your party is fighting monsters at a level roughly equal to their own, most enemies will be killed within four hits, not eight.
Edit: After you get Matra Magic things get easier.
We catch a tiny frog here. D'aww lookit the little frog.
"Oh sweet Jesus what the fuck are you"
"Oh god oh god you're going to lock me in a basement and make a suit out of my skin aren't you"
"No, not you."
"That right."
"what."
Your lips say yes, but your name says No.
Oh come on. That can't be the only reason No is pathetic.
Bowie just stares on impassively, not daring to ask about the Big Mouth Billy Bass collection Quale has up on his mantle there.
"You take No."
"No."
"Yes?"
"I said No."
"Yay! Let's go!"
"Fuck."
You can actually choose, but I like to think he was tricked by No's name. Turning down a party member seems silly though, given the fights ahead.
"No problem. Could you just...tuck your, you know, tongue? Back in your mouth maybe?"
I should have named Vivi 'Mallow'.
Oh, sure, because those people all know each other.
Quale: "I-I no can answer."
Vivi: "Grandpa Quan looks exactly like you, Mr. Quale..."
Quale: "Of course. We from same tribe."
Vivi: "......"
Bowie: "You really don't know him?"
Quale: "No! I not know this Quan!"
Bowie: "Honestly...? That's too bad... Let's go, Vivi."
Alright, time to go. We catch a few frogs in the frog-catching minigame, and then I decide to level up the team a bit (a book on hand because I'm impatient. The battle swirly intro takes like 30 seconds) Four team members, should be easy.
OH GOD FUCK THESE THINGS
FUCK THESE TOO
I actually get a game over at this point. Those fucking crab things. They hit everyone with a bubble attack that does decent damage and Bowie died before I realized I was in over my head and thus could use his Escape ability to run away. They kill everyone except Ratchel and then slowly plink away at her with their claws while I try to run. Sadistic crabfucks.
No, if you don't know, is basically a Blue Mage. I actually like how Blue Magery works in FFIX. Rather than try to get hit with the ability, you choose the option 'Eat' when an enemy is low on health. This kills the enemy (with a graphic of forks, knives, and spoons swirling around them) and No learns an ability, if they teach one. Those crabfucks, for instance, let me learn the Aqua Breath spell they used on me.
"What you want?"
"I don't think she was talking to you. Be quiet. This is a dramatic moment."
"That's...bad. Right?"
The bell then shatters, and the door opens. Man, these rat people choose a really weird system for opening doors.
There's a Burmecian under that fire.
Fuck, it's them. How'd they get over here, anyway? Last we saw of them, they jumped out of a moving airskiff thing.
They're easy. Can't eat them though.
There's a moogle under a bell. We free him by summoning forth the Moogle Power by letting him know Vivi has a Kupo Nut.
Seriously.
Fuck these enemies too. Also, No's running animation amuses me.
We Tent up at the Moogle save point, save, and the Moogle that we saved is kind enough to give us a bell to open the door.
Well, he doesn't sound that bad. With a goofy name like that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2nF6qt49dE&feature=related Fuck.
We've fought bosses before, or at least enemies with the boss music playing, but Gizamaluke is what I consider the first actual boss. He attacks with a physical attack, and a water attack, and counterattacks with the water almost every time you hit him. Of course, I Synthesised or just plain didn't have all the 50% water damage gear you get. Yay.
Oh, and whenever Vivi casts a spell, he Silences him.
The fight isn't going too well. Bowie's stealin', Vivi's using the charge ability so the spell I do get off does good damage, Ratchel's jumping (which doesn't provoke the counterattack, thankfully).
Then I remember something that I read. You can use a tent on an enemy and it inflicts a bunch of debilitating status effects. 'Nooo. That's stupid. That'd never work.'
Oh. Well. Apparently a...snake bit him when I used the tent. I don't fucking know. All I do know is that it hit him with blind (!) and mute (!!!). The slow effect is from Vivi.
I spend what has to be the next 10 minutes trying to steal the Ice Rod from him. Victory for the obsessive lootwhore!
The screen goes black, and then we hear a familiar 'clank clank clank'...
"Do you hear that, comically-oversized bag slung over my shoulder?"
"The one we did not break! No sir! We would never break a gate by irresponsibly allowing an untrained princess pilot a cargo ship!"
Really, that's the best description they got to work with?
Such wisdom from Tall Guard...
The guards wave Awesome through once they figure out he's carrying a bunch of rotten pickles.
You're a genius! A crop-dusting genius!
I wish I got more shots of this, but I have to get two people away from the alley so Shiny can come out of the bag.
Awesome hates tapirmen.
Driving Miss Shiny
Shiny: "Wow...! That cable car will take us to the summit. We're
almost there, Awesome. Alexandria is just beyond the summit,
right? I managed it without Bowie's help...!"
I can sort of see most of Awesome's point, but what monsters? She helped kill Black Waltz 2 and like 10 normal monsters thus far. She wasn't around for Waltz 1 and 3 and was captured during the plant boss.
Man, I always hated fighting Gizamaluke, never even knew that Tents could severely screw him and other bosses over.
I keep on wondering if it's at all possible to level up Garnet to the point where she can actually use her summons prior to that event on Disc 2.
I'm pretty sure you can't, there's actually a cap on her MP growth and if you get to that point it starts fucking her stats over.
As long as battles take anyway (meaning I avoid grinding like the plague), and since you don't need them, why would you want to?
Yes you can, but it takes some grinding to arounf the early 20's. I managed to get her to summon Shiva some during the Underground spider railway part.
Yes you can, but it takes some grinding to arounf the early 20's. I managed to get her to summon Shiva some during the Underground spider railway part.
I have never, never ever, ever had the tent trick work on a boss. Ever.
Maybe I got lucky? It's the first time I actually used it. It healed him, funnily enough, but by blinding and muting him he was rendered pretty harmless.
I think it always heals, that's why people normally try to use it at the very beginning of the fight. Also, grinding until Shiny can use summons on dics one? Fuck that. I did quite a bit of grinding with Zidane and Vivi though. Up above the area where the save moogle is in the grotto there's an area with enemies serveral levels high than you. With the right gear and strategy (and a whole lot of lot you can take a few down and gain something like four levels in the first four fights. Your characters can level up really quickly if some (or all) of the other party members are dead when the bad guys go down.
I think it always heals, that's why people normally try to use it at the very beginning of the fight. Also, grinding until Shiny can use summons on dics one? Fuck that. I did quite a bit of grinding with Zidane and Vivi though. Up above the area where the save moogle is in the grotto there's an area with enemies serveral levels high than you. With the right gear and strategy (and a whole lot of lot you can take a few down and gain something like four levels in the first four fights. Your characters can level up really quickly if some (or all) of the other party members are dead when the bad guys go down.
It does help to grind around Gargan Roo for awhile so Garnet and Steiner can level up and learn some new abilities, plus it means there levels will be more even with Zidane and Vivi when they hook back up with the team.
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Which is what you should name her. "It".
Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
I too vote Quina be named No.
Ideally it would be Eiko 'cos she's referenced so much, but frankly there's gotta be something better for her. :P
NOOOO!
"No one can dance like everyone!" "Everyone defeated Bilbo in a duel."
Very much this.
Bleh. I saved before I named him/her. I may just start over. It's only like an hour! Half of which I spent stealing from the boss.
No isn't as entertaining as I'd hoped it would be. Capitalized or lowercase, it only works half the time. :I
Not really. She's a better white mage but a worse summoner, although Phoenix is pretty damn useful. I don't think Dagger can learn Holy or Full-Life but it has been a while since I've played. But Eiko can learn those handy spells so she is in fact useful.
It never occurred to me that this could happen. Did you miss Qu's Marsh?
I did this. I didn't even realize it was an area I could go in. That ****ing grotto made me stop playing the game for a while. I went and looked at a FAQ, saw Quina, and went "Who?"
Awesome Let's Play. Keep it up, or I'm come to your house and MAKE you finish.
XBL/PSN/Steam: APZonerunner
Bah, I'd only ever go back and change a name if the new one was super awesome. I'm not feeling it with this suggestion.
I'm not feeling it with the current one! Oh well, I'll soldier on (because I'm lazy). Quina's only used in like one other part of the game if I remember correctly (I may not be).
The problem with Blue Magic in 9 is that 1/8 is a very inconvenient fraction to reduce an enemy's HP to. If your party is fighting monsters at a level roughly equal to their own, most enemies will be killed within four hits, not eight.
Edit: After you get Matra Magic things get easier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdu9X-tUAzc
We catch a tiny frog here. D'aww lookit the little frog.
"Oh sweet Jesus what the fuck are you"
"Oh god oh god you're going to lock me in a basement and make a suit out of my skin aren't you"
"No, not you."
"That right."
"what."
Your lips say yes, but your name says No.
Oh come on. That can't be the only reason No is pathetic.
Bowie just stares on impassively, not daring to ask about the Big Mouth Billy Bass collection Quale has up on his mantle there.
"You take No."
"No."
"Yes?"
"I said No."
"Yay! Let's go!"
"Fuck."
You can actually choose, but I like to think he was tricked by No's name. Turning down a party member seems silly though, given the fights ahead.
"No problem. Could you just...tuck your, you know, tongue? Back in your mouth maybe?"
I should have named Vivi 'Mallow'.
Oh, sure, because those people all know each other.
Quale: "I-I no can answer."
Vivi: "Grandpa Quan looks exactly like you, Mr. Quale..."
Quale: "Of course. We from same tribe."
Vivi: "......"
Bowie: "You really don't know him?"
Quale: "No! I not know this Quan!"
Bowie: "Honestly...? That's too bad... Let's go, Vivi."
Vivi: "Okay..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUYCHQIqNvQ&feature=related
I only added this part in because I like the music.
Alright, time to go. We catch a few frogs in the frog-catching minigame, and then I decide to level up the team a bit (a book on hand because I'm impatient. The battle swirly intro takes like 30 seconds) Four team members, should be easy.
OH GOD FUCK THESE THINGS
FUCK THESE TOO
I actually get a game over at this point. Those fucking crab things. They hit everyone with a bubble attack that does decent damage and Bowie died before I realized I was in over my head and thus could use his Escape ability to run away. They kill everyone except Ratchel and then slowly plink away at her with their claws while I try to run. Sadistic crabfucks.
No, if you don't know, is basically a Blue Mage. I actually like how Blue Magery works in FFIX. Rather than try to get hit with the ability, you choose the option 'Eat' when an enemy is low on health. This kills the enemy (with a graphic of forks, knives, and spoons swirling around them) and No learns an ability, if they teach one. Those crabfucks, for instance, let me learn the Aqua Breath spell they used on me.
"What you want?"
"I don't think she was talking to you. Be quiet. This is a dramatic moment."
"That's...bad. Right?"
The bell then shatters, and the door opens. Man, these rat people choose a really weird system for opening doors.
There's a Burmecian under that fire.
Fuck, it's them. How'd they get over here, anyway? Last we saw of them, they jumped out of a moving airskiff thing.
They're easy. Can't eat them though.
There's a moogle under a bell. We free him by summoning forth the Moogle Power by letting him know Vivi has a Kupo Nut.
Seriously.
Fuck these enemies too. Also, No's running animation amuses me.
We Tent up at the Moogle save point, save, and the Moogle that we saved is kind enough to give us a bell to open the door.
Well, he doesn't sound that bad. With a goofy name like that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2nF6qt49dE&feature=related
Fuck.
We've fought bosses before, or at least enemies with the boss music playing, but Gizamaluke is what I consider the first actual boss. He attacks with a physical attack, and a water attack, and counterattacks with the water almost every time you hit him. Of course, I Synthesised or just plain didn't have all the 50% water damage gear you get. Yay.
Oh, and whenever Vivi casts a spell, he Silences him.
The fight isn't going too well. Bowie's stealin', Vivi's using the charge ability so the spell I do get off does good damage, Ratchel's jumping (which doesn't provoke the counterattack, thankfully).
Then I remember something that I read. You can use a tent on an enemy and it inflicts a bunch of debilitating status effects. 'Nooo. That's stupid. That'd never work.'
Oh. Well. Apparently a...snake bit him when I used the tent. I don't fucking know. All I do know is that it hit him with blind (!) and mute (!!!). The slow effect is from Vivi.
I spend what has to be the next 10 minutes trying to steal the Ice Rod from him. Victory for the obsessive lootwhore!
The screen goes black, and then we hear a familiar 'clank clank clank'...
"Do you hear that, comically-oversized bag slung over my shoulder?"
"The one we did not break! No sir! We would never break a gate by irresponsibly allowing an untrained princess pilot a cargo ship!"
Really, that's the best description they got to work with?
Such wisdom from Tall Guard...
The guards wave Awesome through once they figure out he's carrying a bunch of rotten pickles.
You're a genius! A crop-dusting genius!
I wish I got more shots of this, but I have to get two people away from the alley so Shiny can come out of the bag.
Awesome hates tapirmen.
Driving Miss Shiny
Shiny: "Wow...! That cable car will take us to the summit. We're
almost there, Awesome. Alexandria is just beyond the summit,
right? I managed it without Bowie's help...!"
I can sort of see most of Awesome's point, but what monsters? She helped kill Black Waltz 2 and like 10 normal monsters thus far. She wasn't around for Waltz 1 and 3 and was captured during the plant boss.
XBL/PSN/Steam: APZonerunner
4:50? I think. I'd have to check.
Hmm. My screenshot folders says 1-9, but I'm on update 8. Weird.
This really makes me wish I had a PSanything so I could play this game.
I keep on wondering if it's at all possible to level up Garnet to the point where she can actually use her summons prior to that event on Disc 2.
sorry MoC, but I'm really not digging "No"
it's just confusing
As long as battles take anyway (meaning I avoid grinding like the plague), and since you don't need them, why would you want to?
PS2s are down to 99 bucks! And I'm sure you can get a used one for half that. Completely worth it. The PS1/PS2 had so many good games.
Me either sort of but it's too late. :I
Yes you can, but it takes some grinding to arounf the early 20's. I managed to get her to summon Shiva some during the Underground spider railway part.
Gargan Roo. I love the music there.
Maybe I got lucky? It's the first time I actually used it. It healed him, funnily enough, but by blinding and muting him he was rendered pretty harmless.
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It does help to grind around Gargan Roo for awhile so Garnet and Steiner can level up and learn some new abilities, plus it means there levels will be more even with Zidane and Vivi when they hook back up with the team.
That was cool for story... but terrible for gameplay