My love affair with octopodes began when I realized that "octopodes" was a totally sweet word
The octopodes themselves have carried the banner of awesome admirably
It's a shame that they only live 1-3 years.
Though I am convinced that there is actually an deep-ocean civilization of long-lived cephalopods that use hydrothermal vents as an energy source for their advanced technology.
These crows are the /only/ animal besides humans that can take an object that it has never experienced before and transform it in to a valuable tool.
/Only/ that we know of, you mean?
Fair enough. Only animal that has demonstrated this ability. Still, it's pretty fucking cool. New Caledonian Crows > Dolphins
Can't crows also solve really complicated puzzles even upon first encountering them?
Birds are my favorite animals. I'll probably join the audobon society when I get out of school.
YES!
Also, crows seem to have language and there even seem to be regional dialects of languages. Caws from a crow in California that means one thing has a slightly different sound than the same caw from a crow in Massachusetts. They apparently have names.
There are also indications that crow's have culture. Crows within close proximity to each other seem to demonstrate similar behaviour that isn't common to crows and doesn't appear to be innate or instinctual. Also, there is some evidence that crows have art of some sort. The things that crows tend to collect and the arrangement they are stored in tend to share certain properties with other crows from the same area, but differ from crows further away. The fuckers are making crow artwork, man.
Yeah, morons, it's octopodes or octopuses, but never octopi.
What if you bake it for 45 minutes in a light, flakey crust?
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Yeah, morons, it's octopodes or octopuses, but never octopi.
I was actually about to make an argument, but then I realized that pous is a third declension and I was all "well fuck me sweetly and call me Shirley!"
And this is why you got a C. :-P
Remember, octopus is a loan word from the Greek word ὀκτώπους. Most Greek loanwords in Latin get filed in to the third declension, especially true for third declension Greek nouns, since they have no similarity to any other Latin declension.
These crows are the /only/ animal besides humans that can take an object that it has never experienced before and transform it in to a valuable tool.
/Only/ that we know of, you mean?
Fair enough. Only animal that has demonstrated this ability. Still, it's pretty fucking cool. New Caledonian Crows > Dolphins
Can't crows also solve really complicated puzzles even upon first encountering them?
Birds are my favorite animals. I'll probably join the audobon society when I get out of school.
YES!
Also, crows seem to have language and there even seem to be regional dialects of languages. Caws from a crow in California that means one thing has a slightly different sound than the same caw from a crow in Massachusetts. They apparently have names.
There are also indications that crow's have culture. Crows within close proximity to each other seem to demonstrate similar behaviour that isn't common to crows and doesn't appear to be innate or instinctual. Also, there is some evidence that crows have art of some sort. The things that crows tend to collect and the arrangement they are stored in tend to share certain properties with other crows from the same area, but differ from crows further away. The fuckers are making crow artwork, man.
When I was a kid I used to be really disappointed that there were no cool animals living where I did. Africa had lions and elephants and stuff, South America had monkeys, Australia had platypuses, the deep ocean had all sorts of weird stuff and what did we have - nothing.
I now realise how horribly wrong I was.
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All this talk of smart fish reminds me of some clever crabs we used to keep in our aquarium.
They would drag the aquarium decorations up to the pump, climb them then jump from the decorations to the pump and climb up to where the whole for the cord was, trying to get out. They even stuck their little tiny pincers of the hole, and they would repeat this whole process again and again.
All this talk of smart fish reminds me of some clever crabs we used to keep in our aquarium.
They would drag the aquarium decorations up to the pump, climb them then jump from the decorations to the pump and climb up to where the whole for the cord was, trying to get out. They even stuck their little tiny pincers of the hole, and they would repeat this whole process again and again.
Not very clever if they did it over and over again without ever learning. A crow would try it, fail. And then would create a laser cutting torch to just cut through the glass.
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All this talk of smart fish reminds me of some clever crabs we used to keep in our aquarium.
They would drag the aquarium decorations up to the pump, climb them then jump from the decorations to the pump and climb up to where the whole for the cord was, trying to get out. They even stuck their little tiny pincers of the hole, and they would repeat this whole process again and again.
Not very clever if they did it over and over again without ever learning. A crow would try it, fail. And then would create a laser cutting torch to just cut through the glass.
Damn, you're right. So that's why that crow kept eyeing my house ominously....
These crows are the /only/ animal besides humans that can take an object that it has never experienced before and transform it in to a valuable tool.
/Only/ that we know of, you mean?
Fair enough. Only animal that has demonstrated this ability. Still, it's pretty fucking cool. New Caledonian Crows > Dolphins
Can't crows also solve really complicated puzzles even upon first encountering them?
Birds are my favorite animals. I'll probably join the audobon society when I get out of school.
YES!
Also, crows seem to have language and there even seem to be regional dialects of languages. Caws from a crow in California that means one thing has a slightly different sound than the same caw from a crow in Massachusetts. They apparently have names.
There are also indications that crow's have culture. Crows within close proximity to each other seem to demonstrate similar behaviour that isn't common to crows and doesn't appear to be innate or instinctual. Also, there is some evidence that crows have art of some sort. The things that crows tend to collect and the arrangement they are stored in tend to share certain properties with other crows from the same area, but differ from crows further away. The fuckers are making crow artwork, man.
When I was a kid I used to be really disappointed that there were no cool animals living where I did. Africa had lions and elephants and stuff, South America had monkeys, Australia had platypuses, the deep ocean had all sorts of weird stuff and what did we have - nothing.
I now realise how horribly wrong I was.
When I was a kid, I had these cards that you got in the mail with this green box (Wildlife Treasury, I think). Anyway, those taught me very quickly that lions and elephants and shit are actually pretty boring. The cool animals are the ones you least suspect.
Water Bears are pretty cool. What with being basically indestructible and all.
They are pretty much immune to radiation, pressure, cold, and heat. Can go years without water in a dormant state and even survive in the vacuum of space. I mean seriously that is just bad ass.
Now, I'm not 100% sure, but I believe this is the same protozoan that Dawkins talks about in the Ancestor's Tale. Namely, it's not a single protozoan. Each one of those spindly little flagelletes is a separate organism living symbiotically on the protozoan's body. (I can't remember if they're bacteria or protozoans themselves).
Termites need these things to digest their diet of wood. These things, in turn, need like 50 other organisms to live alongside/on their bodies. So termites live in symbiosis with the protozoans, who live in symbiosis with their swimming bacteria.
On tiny beasts, this is maybe not technically an animal, but it's close. It's a protozoa that lives in termites' guts.
Now, I'm not 100% sure, but I believe this is the same protozoan that Dawkins talks about in the Ancestor's Tale. Namely, it's not a single protozoan. Each one of those spindly little flagelletes is a separate organism living symbiotically on the protozoan's body. (I can't remember if they're bacteria or protozoans themselves).
Termites need these things to digest their diet of wood. These things, in turn, need like 50 other organisms to live alongside/on their bodies. So termites live in symbiosis with the protozoans, who live in symbiosis with their swimming bacteria.
Yea, those spindly flagellates are symbiotic bacteria, and provide support for Lynn Margulis' Serial Endosybiotic Theory, which is the one that describes how mitochondria and chloroplasts are actually very ancient obligate symbionts of early cellular life.
Pretty much those bacteria are the believed to be where the modern protist flagella originated from.
After a while of symbiosis, the organisms became mutualistic and then eventually the same organism.
Crows have been taught to use vending machines. Without any instruction. They put the machines out there and coins. Eventually the crows put coins in the machines and out came food.
Then they removed the coins from the environment. So the crows would encounter coins elsewhere and bring them back to the machines for food.
Crows have been taught to use vending machines. Without any instruction. They put the machines out there and coins. Eventually the crows put coins in the machines and out came food.
Then they removed the coins from the environment. So the crows would encounter coins elsewhere and bring them back to the machines for food.
I saw that video. The guy said he was hoping to design a vending machine that would accept rubbish so that crows could clean up the streets for us. I'd love to live in a future in which we pay crows in food to work for us.
I find it odd that this thread has actually made crows my new favorite animal.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
All this talk of smart fish reminds me of some clever crabs we used to keep in our aquarium.
They would drag the aquarium decorations up to the pump, climb them then jump from the decorations to the pump and climb up to where the whole for the cord was, trying to get out. They even stuck their little tiny pincers of the hole, and they would repeat this whole process again and again.
Not very clever if they did it over and over again without ever learning. A crow would try it, fail. And then would create a laser cutting torch to just cut through the glass.
I like how the platypus has mammary glands throughout its entire body. Milk glands likely evolved from sweat glands (or share a common precursor) and the platypus is just evidence of that.
I also like how their venom does not long-term damage to the victim, but directly stimulates pain receptors to cause excruciating, crippling pain.
You're making me angry. You won't like me when I'm angry.
Possessing some of the most advanced eyes in the animal kingdom (they can change what spectrum they see in!), powerful club (or spear)-limbs capable of shattering double-layered aquarium glass (hitting with the force of a .22 bullet!) that can strike in 2 milliseconds, enough intelligence to recognize other individuals and learn, stomatopods (better know as mantis shrimp) are the coolest arthropods ever.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuttlefish
They change both the color and texture of their skin, at will. This one is saying, 'hey, fuck off.'
Though I am convinced that there is actually an deep-ocean civilization of long-lived cephalopods that use hydrothermal vents as an energy source for their advanced technology.
YES!
Also, crows seem to have language and there even seem to be regional dialects of languages. Caws from a crow in California that means one thing has a slightly different sound than the same caw from a crow in Massachusetts. They apparently have names.
There are also indications that crow's have culture. Crows within close proximity to each other seem to demonstrate similar behaviour that isn't common to crows and doesn't appear to be innate or instinctual. Also, there is some evidence that crows have art of some sort. The things that crows tend to collect and the arrangement they are stored in tend to share certain properties with other crows from the same area, but differ from crows further away. The fuckers are making crow artwork, man.
What if you bake it for 45 minutes in a light, flakey crust?
And this is why you got a C. :-P
Remember, octopus is a loan word from the Greek word ὀκτώπους. Most Greek loanwords in Latin get filed in to the third declension, especially true for third declension Greek nouns, since they have no similarity to any other Latin declension.
i couldn't tell if he was puking the hippo out, or shitting it, or just giving up on eating it
jesus christ
Give me money and I'll make one.
When I was a kid I used to be really disappointed that there were no cool animals living where I did. Africa had lions and elephants and stuff, South America had monkeys, Australia had platypuses, the deep ocean had all sorts of weird stuff and what did we have - nothing.
I now realise how horribly wrong I was.
They would drag the aquarium decorations up to the pump, climb them then jump from the decorations to the pump and climb up to where the whole for the cord was, trying to get out. They even stuck their little tiny pincers of the hole, and they would repeat this whole process again and again.
Not very clever if they did it over and over again without ever learning. A crow would try it, fail. And then would create a laser cutting torch to just cut through the glass.
Damn, you're right. So that's why that crow kept eyeing my house ominously....
When I was a kid, I had these cards that you got in the mail with this green box (Wildlife Treasury, I think). Anyway, those taught me very quickly that lions and elephants and shit are actually pretty boring. The cool animals are the ones you least suspect.
They are pretty much immune to radiation, pressure, cold, and heat. Can go years without water in a dormant state and even survive in the vacuum of space. I mean seriously that is just bad ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-zmcrZfKtY
Now, I'm not 100% sure, but I believe this is the same protozoan that Dawkins talks about in the Ancestor's Tale. Namely, it's not a single protozoan. Each one of those spindly little flagelletes is a separate organism living symbiotically on the protozoan's body. (I can't remember if they're bacteria or protozoans themselves).
Termites need these things to digest their diet of wood. These things, in turn, need like 50 other organisms to live alongside/on their bodies. So termites live in symbiosis with the protozoans, who live in symbiosis with their swimming bacteria.
HOW CUTEEEE!!
These things are SOOO awesome!
They live in a thin film of water on mosses and lichens, and when that water dries up, so do they.
and then when the water comes back they come back to life.
They have also survived in SPACE via the aptly named "TARDIS" project.
SO AWESOME!
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=20307283
EDIT: Anexion curse youuuuuu!
I also think king cheetahs are awesome.
Yea, those spindly flagellates are symbiotic bacteria, and provide support for Lynn Margulis' Serial Endosybiotic Theory, which is the one that describes how mitochondria and chloroplasts are actually very ancient obligate symbionts of early cellular life.
Pretty much those bacteria are the believed to be where the modern protist flagella originated from.
After a while of symbiosis, the organisms became mutualistic and then eventually the same organism.
pretty neat, actually.
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Then they removed the coins from the environment. So the crows would encounter coins elsewhere and bring them back to the machines for food.
I saw that video. The guy said he was hoping to design a vending machine that would accept rubbish so that crows could clean up the streets for us. I'd love to live in a future in which we pay crows in food to work for us.
We should rename it "The Crow Thread" and chuck all thos lesser animals out.
Bearcat mother fuckers. It's a bear and a cat. It's like a combination of awesome and spectacular.
I'm pretty sure octopodes also do that. Squid can also change their colors at will, and squid get extra huge and badass. Humboldts>Cuttlefish.
for the record, I fully support a "crows kick more ass than your favorite animal" thread.
Octopodes, crows and humans get to form an intelligent creatures trinity with dominion over sea, air and land respectively.
My work here is done.
More impressed by owlbears.
I find it enlightening that all members of this trinity tend to be assholes that like to fuck with lesser species, like cats and hermit crabs.
Intelligence is a necessary and sufficient condition of assholishness.
I support this idea.
Frilled shark!
Goblin Shark!
Cookiecutter shark!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc
pistol shrimp are awesome
I for one welcome our new crow overlords:
My favorite bird:
xbl - HowYouGetAnts
steam - WeAreAllGeth
You're making me angry. You won't like me when I'm angry.
I think it was purging. Bulimic Anaconda. That'd be a good name for a band.
Possessing some of the most advanced eyes in the animal kingdom (they can change what spectrum they see in!), powerful club (or spear)-limbs capable of shattering double-layered aquarium glass (hitting with the force of a .22 bullet!) that can strike in 2 milliseconds, enough intelligence to recognize other individuals and learn, stomatopods (better know as mantis shrimp) are the coolest arthropods ever.
By the way, can we talk about extinct animals?
Fossil octopus!