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Hawking: Humans must colonize other planets..

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Well, he still needs a solid-state cooling device to create a theory of quantum gravity based on Bose-Einstein Condensates before he can understand Bosenova explosions, but his disdain for calculus is holding him back.

    Kirkulus

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    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH......

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

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    Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    "ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE."

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    JeedanJeedan Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    No pretty baubles: The periodic table still has a few gaps in it. (totally serious)

    Is this true? What are our chances of finding undiscovered elements out there?

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    JeedanJeedan Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    No pretty baubles: The periodic table still has a few gaps in it. (totally serious)

    Is this true? What are our chances of finding undiscovered elements out there?

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    Mad_MorlockMad_Morlock Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I don't need a solid state cooling device.

    They already exist.

    If you'd read back you'd see that.

    As for only being able to reach .3 of absolute zero, they don't mention the variety of superconductors they're using to reach those temperatures. If they're using high temperature superconductors (which they don't specify) then low temperature superconductors could be used to get even closer.

    Since boron doped silicon only becomes superconducting at .35K, it can be assumed that it will produce the same effect as the standard cooling superconductor/metal/insulator junctions, but should be effective in reducing the thermal energy of a solid matter cube even further. This might not be so, but it's worth testing.

    In the end, daisy-chaining thermal diodes, high temperature and low temperature superconductor/metal/insulator junctions could be used to create a state near absolute zero without the use of laser cooling (which slows down atomic motion of a gas moving in one direction by smacking a photon into it moving in the other direction) and magnets (used to maintain a controllable dispersion in the fermionic gas).

    I really don't see what the beef is here.

    And everyone has already been asked by a mod to stop talking about it.

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    Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Jeedan wrote:
    No pretty baubles: The periodic table still has a few gaps in it. (totally serious)

    Is this true? What are our chances of finding undiscovered elements out there?

    Ununseptium is the only element with an atomic number between 1 and 118 that has not been discovered yet and it has a atomic number of 117. We can possibly make elements with higher atomic weights, but who knows.

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Jeedan wrote:
    No pretty baubles: The periodic table still has a few gaps in it. (totally serious)

    Is this true? What are our chances of finding undiscovered elements out there?

    Ununseptium is the only element with an atomic number between 1 and 118 that has not been discovered yet and it has a atomic number of 117. We can possibly make elements with higher atomic weights, but who knows.

    My point. Who knows what's out there? The truth? Perhaps. Vast mineral wealth? Definitely. The incalculable moisture of the Zerg? Unlikely, yet we are hopeful.

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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Jeedan wrote:
    No pretty baubles: The periodic table still has a few gaps in it. (totally serious)

    Is this true? What are our chances of finding undiscovered elements out there?

    Ununseptium is the only element with an atomic number between 1 and 118 that has not been discovered yet and it has a atomic number of 117. We can possibly make elements with higher atomic weights, but who knows.
    The real discovery would be elements above 118 that are actually stable, not decaying in under a millisecond. Of course people thought 114 and above might be stable and that has turned out not to be true, so who knows.

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    Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Jeedan wrote:
    No pretty baubles: The periodic table still has a few gaps in it. (totally serious)

    Is this true? What are our chances of finding undiscovered elements out there?

    Ununseptium is the only element with an atomic number between 1 and 118 that has not been discovered yet and it has a atomic number of 117. We can possibly make elements with higher atomic weights, but who knows.
    The real discovery would be elements above 118 that are actually stable, not decaying in under a millisecond. Of course people thought 114 and above might be stable and that has turned out not to be true, so who knows.

    Please read up about the "island of stability". The theory is not that any atomic number above x is going to be stable. It has to do with the number of protons having a certain magic number and the number of neutrons having a certain magic number. Ununquadium-298, unbinilium-304 and unbihexium-310 are the likely candidates for stability according to this theory. Also, it should be noted that the precise extent of the stability is unknown. It could be that these isotopes last a few minutes rather than a few milliseconds, or they could last longer than the universe.

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    DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Do they have any guess as to their possible properties?

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    WHY wrote:
    time for a cheesy-but-mostly-true quote from a sci-fi show.

    Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes . . . [and] all of this . . . all of this . . . was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars.
    All of that will be for nothing once the heat death of the universe occurs. All will be for nothing unless we explore the multiverse.

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    titmouse wrote:
    WHY wrote:
    time for a cheesy-but-mostly-true quote from a sci-fi show.

    Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes . . . [and] all of this . . . all of this . . . was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars.
    All of that will be for nothing once the heat death of the universe occurs. All will be for nothing unless we explore the multiverse.
    Multivac will make everything OK again. We just gotta remember to ask every few hundred thousand years.

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    Mad_MorlockMad_Morlock Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You want new elements?

    Just wait until the Plasma Fusion Donut . o O (mmmm... donuts...) comes online.

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    Building something hotter than the Sun on Earth seems like it might be a recipe for trouble... but they say that there is no chance of it getting out of control. But then, if it did would anyone really have the chance to know?

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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Jeedan wrote:
    No pretty baubles: The periodic table still has a few gaps in it. (totally serious)

    Is this true? What are our chances of finding undiscovered elements out there?

    Ununseptium is the only element with an atomic number between 1 and 118 that has not been discovered yet and it has a atomic number of 117. We can possibly make elements with higher atomic weights, but who knows.
    The real discovery would be elements above 118 that are actually stable, not decaying in under a millisecond. Of course people thought 114 and above might be stable and that has turned out not to be true, so who knows.

    Please read up about the "island of stability". The theory is not that any atomic number above x is going to be stable. It has to do with the number of protons having a certain magic number and the number of neutrons having a certain magic number. Ununquadium-298, unbinilium-304 and unbihexium-310 are the likely candidates for stability according to this theory. Also, it should be noted that the precise extent of the stability is unknown. It could be that these isotopes last a few minutes rather than a few milliseconds, or they could last longer than the universe.
    I know that, I just meant that there may be certain elements above 118 we haven't seen/created yet that might be stable, not that all elements above 118 would be. I guess I should have put "any elements" instead of just "elements" in the above sentence, since I obviously wasn't clear enough.

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    fjafjanfjafjan Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You want new elements?

    Just wait until the Plasma Fusion Donut . o O (mmmm... donuts...) comes online.

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    Building something hotter than the Sun on Earth seems like it might be a recipe for trouble... but they say that there is no chance of it getting out of control. But then, if it did would anyone really have the chance to know?

    Plasma fusion donut? Wtf? Tokamak
    But yeah, fusion would be with hydrogen isotopes, I am guessing that creating new very heavy substances via fusion is not the greatest idea.
    Might be possible though. Oh, andi believe there are Tokamaks Active, however they do not produce energy.

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    [Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubt Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You want new elements?

    Just wait until the Plasma Fusion Donut . o O (mmmm... donuts...) comes online.

    catia-s.jpg

    machine-s.jpg

    Building something hotter than the Sun on Earth seems like it might be a recipe for trouble... but they say that there is no chance of it getting out of control. But then, if it did would anyone really have the chance to know?

    And how would you get new elements out of that?

    Your fear of fusion reactors is quite baseless.

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    Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    You want new elements?

    Just wait until the Plasma Fusion Donut . o O (mmmm... donuts...) comes online.

    catia-s.jpg

    machine-s.jpg

    Building something hotter than the Sun on Earth seems like it might be a recipe for trouble... but they say that there is no chance of it getting out of control. But then, if it did would anyone really have the chance to know?

    You're really fucking dumb, aren't you? Like, REALLY REALLY REALLY FUCKING DUMB. You do not use a tokamak fusion reactor to create undiscovered elements.

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    Anime OwnsAnime Owns Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    JET has been operational since the 80s.

    Maybe Mad_Morlock is thinking of ITER?
    I'm not sure what this has to do with finding new elements, though.

    Edit - beaten, multiple times. whooops

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    Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Gigglio wrote:
    JET has been operational since the 80s.

    Maybe Mad_Morlock is thinking of ITER?
    I'm not sure what this has to do with finding new elements, though.

    It has nothing to do with finding undiscovered elements. It is just Morlock being a giant retard.

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    fjafjanfjafjan Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Gigglio wrote:
    JET has been operational since the 80s.

    Maybe Mad_Morlock is thinking of ITER?
    I'm not sure what this has to do with finding new elements, though.

    It has nothing to do with finding undiscovered elements. It is just Morlock being a giant retard.

    Im sure that would impress alot of people

    Fusion, wow that's strange but donut, I can relate to that. He must be so smart!

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    electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Are you an idiot in real life or do you just play one on the internet?
    We asked the same question about you and the conclusion was probably the former.
    Lithium is the lightest solid metal. It's energy state will natively be lower than that of rubidium.
    What energy state you collossal retard? The experiments you keep talking about were done with Rubidium - a metal - in a gas phase. Why the FUCK would they not do it with Lithium were it somehow easier to do? A BEC isn't about a fucking energy state as related to atomic size, it's about superposition of quantum wavefunctions till the entire body of the BEC is governed by just a single function. The energy state is the relative thermal vibration in the atoms. If you have heavier atoms then proportionally this is going to be reduced. Stop fucking spewing your scientific bullshit over the internet and go build your stupid fucking solid state cooler. Oh wait..you couldn't even get through half a fucking degree at university. I WONDER WHY.

    YOU ARE A GOD DAMN ABJECT FAILURE STUCK WORKING FOR AN INDY RECORD LABEL NO ONE CARES ABOUT DESPERATELY PREACHING YOUR SCIENTIFIC REVELATIONS TO AN INTERNET FORUM SEARCHING FOR VALIDATION. YOU FUCKING FAILED EVEN THE MOST BASIC PHYSICS COURSES AT UNIVERSITY.

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    fjafjanfjafjan Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Are you an idiot in real life or do you just play one on the internet?
    We asked the same question about you and the conclusion was probably the former.
    Lithium is the lightest solid metal. It's energy state will natively be lower than that of rubidium.
    What energy state you collossal retard? The experiments you keep talking about were done with Rubidium - a metal - in a gas phase. Why the FUCK would they not do it with Lithium were it somehow easier to do? A BEC isn't about a fucking energy state as related to atomic size, it's about superposition of quantum wavefunctions till the entire body of the BEC is governed by just a single function. The energy state is the relative thermal vibration in the atoms. If you have heavier atoms then proportionally this is going to be reduced. Stop fucking spewing your scientific bullshit over the internet and go build your stupid fucking solid state cooler. Oh wait..you couldn't even get through half a fucking degree at university. I WONDER WHY.

    YOU ARE A GOD DAMN ABJECT FAILURE STUCK WORKING FOR AN INDY RECORD LABEL NO ONE CARES ABOUT DESPERATELY PREACHING YOUR SCIENTIFIC REVELATIONS TO AN INTERNET FORUM SEARCHING FOR VALIDATION. YOU FUCKING FAILED EVEN THE MOST BASIC PHYSICS COURSES AT UNIVERSITY.
    '

    I could almost feel the spit and resent spewing from my monitor

    Impressive.... Most impressive :D

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