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Pokémon RPG on the Wii?
NativityInBlack
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A couple years ago we had rumors on an upcoming Pokémon RPG for the Wii, I mean it's quite obvious even wondering why we don't have more info on it (this is from 2007):
http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/10/20/rumor-nintendo-developing-pokemon-rpg-for-the-wii/
A full 3D rendered world with the curtsies sorta playing like a WoW hunter with wiggle (or RTS gameplay even would be fine) would be an instant hit, and could resurrect the franchise.
Why Nintendo is fully force-feeding poke RPG to be DS only for so many years?
I would make it online with stadiums being the guilds, and we would have to defeat players from another stadiums to get badges and _X badges would mean some progression, tradeskills could be like cooking, outfit design, medicine. The economy would be driven on Pokémon trading. The resistances would have to be fully out so players would need a good selection Pokémon's. Evolving the pets could be special quest lines.
How would you guys design the game?
Oh well just rambling. ;-) Any news would rock!
A couple years ago we had rumors on an upcoming Pokémon RPG for the Wii, I mean it's quite obvious even wondering why we don't have more info on it (this is from 2007):
http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/10/20/rumor-nintendo-developing-pokemon-rpg-for-the-wii/
A full 3D rendered world with the curtsies sorta playing like a WoW hunter with wiggle (or RTS gameplay even would be fine) would be an instant hit, and could resurrect the franchise.
Why Nintendo is fully force-feeding poke RPG to be DS only for so many years?
I would make it online with stadiums being the guilds, and we would have to defeat players from another stadiums to get badges and _X badges would mean some progression, tradeskills could be like cooking, outfit design, medicine. The economy would be driven on Pokémon trading. The resistances would have to be fully out so players would need a good selection Pokémon's. Evolving the pets could be special quest lines.
How would you guys design the game?
Oh well just rambling. ;-) Any news would rock!
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I think a full blown world, with 3D graphics and all 492 pokemon (plus maybe some new ones) would be the greatest thing ever. Heck, they could even stick with the same formula of gym badges and all that and it would probably still be good.
But they just need to invest the proper amount of time and resources into the project to make it good.
Or better yet, just make a Pokémon Ranger Wii game.
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I thought Monster Hunter had always been quite popular in Japan, it's just that the PSP one has been orders of magnitude more popular such that the prior ones pale. Of course that does show that portability is a major point.
One of Pokemon's biggest draws in the past has been the trading and battling in person. I think the world is ready for this all to take place online (probably prearranged at forums like this) but Nintendo isn't quite sold on it.
Everyone agrees that a well realized fully 3D console Pokemon would be pretty great. If nothing else it would sell awesomely. Most people are clamoring for it to be a WoW-like MMO which is simply not going to happen for at least a decade, but I could see a nice single player RPG with online connections.
However I am pretty sick of hearing about rumors and seeing posts about it to the point where when it's announced I'm just going to say "finally" and do my best to ignore all the bitching over why it's not good enough in one respect or another.
A persistent online world in which I can freely roam and explore, battle and challenge, and farm berries. Oh, and some of the other, newer concepts such as secret bases and the underground would be fun too. Just imagine how awesome the underground would be if it actually had more than 2 or 3 people in it at a time.
I never had any of the stadium games, but I remember playing them for a bit on demo kiosks and they never felt as generic as battle revolution did.
I also really liked Pokemon Snap on the N64. It was another glimpse into the world, from a completely different perspective and I really enjoyed it.
So I don't acknowledge the existence of these new pokemon.
Which flies in the face of everything in P/D/Pl involving the GTS and WiFi in general.
What could an mmo offer that pokemon needs? I fail to see a problem with the games right now.
Nintendo has a family-friendly image. Now sure, they can't stop you or me from getting online, exchanging friend codes, and trading that way. But I guarantee the way they are thinking is that little Billy is friends with young Sarah down the street, they exchange friend codes that way, and then they are able to trade Pokemon from the comfort of their own homes when it's way past their bedtime.
EDIT: Also what Sageina said. Pokemon is doing much better than fine. Play Platinum and you'll see that these games are still fun as hell.
Pokemon doesn't need tradeskills, and it doesn't need quests.
I've gone on a daydream or two about this myself, and as far as I'm concerned, the entire PvP system is already in place.
What you would want is:
A 3rd person view in an entirely 3d rendered world. Pokemon Trainer from SSBB would look great as an example. Make the world to scale with him. Then, just let people pick their "faction" and by faction, I mean starting territory. Think Dark Age of Camelot, but with 4 home worlds instead of 3. So you've got the people from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh all competing against each other for your "end game"
Leave everything from the original games, but make them larger. Viridian forest, Mt. Moon, Cycling roads, and all 8 gym leaders. Basically, just make a 3d pokemon game containing all of the 4 regions.
Finally, put actual wandering pokemon in the tall grass and such. No more random encounters, rather, you see a pidgey in the grass, would you like to engage combat? Yes/No
Then, once engaged in combat, you just combat it, and no one else gets in your way, they can't interfear. They can watch you battle from an outside perspective, and that's it. This will help make the world feel much more alive.
Just import the existing Pokemon PvP stuff, like Natures, EVs and held items, and all that shit, and you've got yourself an MMO.
Hell, Nintendo could charge 5 dollars a month for it, and it would probably sell better than WoW.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
Also, for many people it would give them a chance to branch outside of their small network of real life friends. In my situation, my buddies enjoy pokemon in small doses, but none of them care enough to put time into breeding and raising and training a good team of pokemon. To them, the game ends when the elite 4 are beaten. There is no meta game for my friends.
A full blown Wii RPG would certainly get people like me interested in the series, but I think the question is whether or not it's worth Nintendo's trouble to invest in such an expensive project when they're already selling so well. No way an MMO is happening though, and a good thing too: that would be child predator central. I know stuff like that Animal Crossing report is a joke, but something as popular and kid-centric as Pokemon combined with the social networking of an MMO...well, it shouldn't take too much imagination to see why that would be different.
This is such a common misconception. It really is, and I'm not even that big of a pokemon player.
Gen II
- Introduced steel and dark types
- Introduced breeding
- Split the Special stat from Gen I into Spec. Attack and Spec. Def. Reblancing a lot of the game.
- Pokemon can now hold items like equipment, that have a wide variety of effects.
Gen III
- Introduced Abilities, innate passive affects that all pokemon have.
- Introduced Natures, which determine stat growth
- Introduced 2v2 battles
- Introduced contests
Gen IV
- Introduced a 3D world
- Attacks are now independant to be either Physical or Special. not all elec is special, and not all fighting physical
- Introduced a Global Trading System
I mean, the gameplay feels very similar, but there is a lot more going on behind the scenes.
I mean, you could make the same argument for Madden '09, or Devil May Cry 4, or Halo 3. They all play the same as their originals, but a lot was changed behind the scenes.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
Or imagine being able to load into a pre-battle interface and set a list of conditions or rules. Since something like this would be built right into the game, it would be totally enforceable. Rules like no legendaries, or only first evolution pokes, or grass only, or whatever.
However since I went from Blue to Diamond I noticed a lot more change and it was enough to tide me over. I'm not wild about the "huge advancements" of new types, nightfall, abilities, natures, whatever...just give me a fun RPG.
The most recent generation was easily the least significant, but the physical/special move split was still an extremely big deal.
Well.. that's terrible news
Phantom Dust + Pokemon Skin.
Think about it!!
Exactly. Nintendo needs to get with the fucking times and abandon their friend code bullshit.
I'm enjoying Platinum, just like I've enjoyed the series since Red/Blue, but I do wish they'd do something more with it.
"At this point, we're not thinking of going in that direction," says Masuda. "Trading is a core concept of Pokémon. So when you're trading, you meet with a friend and decide which one you want and which one they want. I would like to emphasize real-world communication. You don't see each other online."
I guess this basically means they make enough money with Pokemon as is and don't want to bother with the amount of development time/money an MMO would take.
Nintendo is rather dumb when it comes to the online front. They still seem to think it's a fad. A Pokemon MMO would indeed rival WoW, if not best it.
Hell, I'd play a Pokemon MMO and I'm 26.
Pokemon designs need moar buckles.
And there's a difference between thinking that online is a fad and thinking that online doesn't really add much to the game, and is not worth the considerable expense.
that is the problem. All of us posting are adults/teens at least. As stated earlier in the thread the designers are focusing on children and getting them together in person to trade and play. They don't care about us or the money in our wallets.
Pokemon MMO would destroy my life anyway. I'd lose my job/family/everything due to playing too much.
maybe that is why they won't make it. Maybe they know the horrible consequences of releasing such a monster. The world will end!
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Think about the possibilities! With the Wiimote, you could emulate the feeling of throwing the Pokéballs into the arena yourself!
Yeah, true enough. It's sad enough to hear about people's lives ruined over Final Fantasy XI, WoW and EQ... but the shame of being an adult, addicted to Pokemon, losing ones lively-hood would be impossible to live down.
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Well actually, the whole battle system has been utterly changed by the latest iterations.
I think it depends on what your definition of what Pokemon is. Do you actually give a shit about collecting badges and stuff, or are you playing it simply to get to the ridiculously complex endgame.
I mean yeah, the single player has remained little changed. Still running around pressing Fight, Item, Pokemon or Run. But that's not really Pokemon to many people.
edit:Oh God, 3D pokemon was even worse with the battle speeds. The N64 games would take fucking forever.
Pokemon Stadium also gave you the ability to play R/B/Y on the N64 at DOUBLE SPEED.
And really, that was the single best thing it had. That was just awesome.