The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.
[WoW]19 Twinks, those BoA Shoulders (its a pain)
Beyond
Nerd SlayerIn the SkyRegistered User regular
Nerd SlayerIn the SkyRegistered User regular
Recently 19 twinking has become a hard race for new and improved gear. The bind on account shoulders from wintergrasp have made some thinks extremely OP. Not only that, but there is a way to get a +30 stamina and +15 resilience enchant to the shoulders. Also, there is a way to get +55 stamina and +22 agility to a 19's pants. I don't know how to get it, but normally attaching one of those pants enchants makes the item you use it on become soulbound.
Thus, after all of these new included items, your 19 twink can be at 2.3k hp unbuffed. The most HP I've seen on a 19 twink yet was in the Stormstrike Battle Group. It was a Druid who had 4k hp buffed. He had the fish feast "well fed" buff (which gives +30 stamina and some 46 attack power), but in general 19 twinking has been taken to a new level.
You can check out my twink Vitalia (realm is dalaran) on the armory.
What do you think?
Thus, after all of these new included items, your 19 twink can be at 2.3k hp unbuffed. The most HP I've seen on a 19 twink yet was in the Stormstrike Battle Group. It was a Druid who had 4k hp buffed. He had the fish feast "well fed" buff (which gives +30 stamina and some 46 attack power), but in general 19 twinking has been taken to a new level.
You can check out my twink Vitalia (realm is dalaran) on the armory.
What do you think?
♥
Beyond on
0
Posts
More seriously (but not much), getting the max into a twink character is not new. There are new toys now, and I'm going to use a tried and tested twinker line here: 'You can do anything to your twink I can do to my twink'. QQ moar
Also, the people playing the twinks should get herpes.
Twinking ending is a good thing, that was kinda the idea.
BOT people will get banned, another plus.
I had a mage with all the blue BoE and quested 19s back in the day, just never bothered to play it much.
Yes I hate BOTs, they should be banned.
Twinking ending is a good thing? Now why is that?
Twinks are just ALTs created from boredom or for fun...
BoA shoulders with 30 stam/15 resilience are gone
ALL leg armor except the +armor low level kits are gone
LIBRAMS are gone (which is kind of a kicker to the more serious twinks)
So most twinks can expect to lose anywhere between 600-800 hp once 3.1 rolls around
Not to mention there's rumour that enchants such as mongoose/+hp on chest ar getting specific level requirements as well
Glad I have 80s to keep me amused, most people who play only to twink that I know have already quit in disgust
EDIT: fucking spooky Arkan
Raiding...
Thats nice.
XBox: Raykefire
When you kill someone and you KNOW who is playing that character, its much much more enticing.
that just doesn't seem right with blues and T7.. not T7.5 in some of your slots... and I've seen DK tanks with better gear on Dalaran.
Well yeah, that's why i'm only 4th. I have other gear but i'm using the blues for the stamina. Also im usually Off-Tank
Also a) gear isn't hard to get in this game right now, and b) if you're the 4th best geared DK on your server Dalaran must be awful. Nice PvP gear.
This didn't need its own thread, methinks.
No one seems to disagree with me about this except the twinks, and since these are people who apparently get their rocks off on the video game equivalent of going back to the schoolyard to beat third graders at kickball, I don't really feel bad about it.
Good riddance.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
you just obliterate people lin lesser gear
even good pve gear often allows you to do the same
I approve this message.
"I should be able to jump into a battleground at any level and do equally as well as anyone else, regardless of how much time and gold they've put into specializing at that point."
I mean I'm sure there are great arguments against twinking, but that's the most common, and it's kind of silly to say that, considering that at all PvP at 80, the winners are pretty much those who have the best gear in those situations. The disparities aren't as large, but it's still essentially the same deal.
If you PvP at 80 without gearing for PvP, you get creamed, but there's the notion that PvP should not require gear at any other level.
heh heh
heh heh heh
pvp gear requires pvping at 80, not just gold
and pvp at lower levels is so simple and binary that gear completely determine the winner of every fight
it's stupid and makes it impossible to enjoy a bit of pvp as you level
A lot of people here are butthurt and want to shit on other people just to be assholes. You can have a solution to twinking without removing twinks from the game. This is probably why Blizzard didn't just immediately add experience to PvP with Wrath. They want a solution that allows people to level on somewhat even ground via BGs but also allow twinks to continue their artificial endgames.
Stop being petty.
You know, without having to pay hundreds of gold in the 10-19 bracket just to be competitive.
This is way true, my hunter started out as a twink killer using only quest reward items and a couple boe blues i found.
The problem with twinks is the fact that they didn't get the gear on their own and shouldn't be able to even afford it.
level 80s are getting the items on their own.
Twinks sit around with characters with twice the hp and dealing twice the damage of everyone else claiming to be "good"
Thats not good by any sane persons standards.
When there's a battleground queue just for twinks to run around in, you'll have a point. But, that wouldn't be popular at all because that's not what twinks are after.
Twinking is about using the resources of a level 80 main to attach ridiculous, overitemized enchants and gear kits to a character that can't reasonably obtain them on it's own, to get an advantage over other people at contemporary levels. There's no analog to level 80 pvp, unless you have a level 90 character feeding you post-wrath enchants to slap on your gear.
The imbalance twink gear introduces in lower level battlegrounds is much larger than pvp gear vs. pve gear at 80, so let's just stop making that silly argument, too.
The real solution would be to implement a full set of heirloom pvp gear that's obtainable at lower levels for honor. Then you'd see people at competitive gear levels in every bracket.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
The fact is twinks like to PvP. There are twink strategy discussions and PvP videos featuring twinks against...other twinks! Imagine that. In today's bursty PvP environment, a character with no resilience is quite fucked against one with. Unless there is a gross imbalance 1v1 (paladin vs. feral druid), I enjoy seeing people in Naxx gear. There are items better than heirloom in each bracket. Surprise! Your heirloom items would have to be much better than all others. Blizzard is unlikely to buff them that much more.
And you're still twinking. You just spend shard or whatever instead of gold. People without heirloom items will be forced out of BGs. A new character will be forced to level via PvE. Your solution just makes people farm something besides gold.
Not everyone is in it to one-shot a priest and then teabag them, after all.
EDIT: Beaten to the punch.
The only way it would fuck things up is if you could still enchant them, but they're removing that.
I hear idiots say this all the time, but when it really comes down to it, I've never seen the idiot twink rogue go after the idiot twink rogue on the other team.
Twinks don't like to fight each other. This is just a fact. Anyone who says otherwise is just spreading their pathetic idiot twink propaganda.
This is so hard to decide.
Not all twinks are stupid. This is just a fact. Anyone who says otherwise is a bitter child spreading their nap-deprived nonsense.
god, you're a bitch
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Here's a list of twink guilds who run organized, twink PuGs. Note that a few openly advertise that they're looking for other twink guilds to run matches against.
It's one thing to hate against people who twink for the sole purpose of easy kills, but to ignore the twinking community that does exist and does enjoy playing against themselves is really to be expressing the sort of knee-jerk reaction that gets hostile responses in return.
Twinks are a large community of human beings and like any large community there is no sweeping generalization you can make about them. As for those that kill non-twinks, let's think for a moment.
Imagine that you enter a game of AB. When the gates open, your side has 15 players, but due to people waiting on the invitation or whatever, the other side only has 8 or so. A not unthinkable prospect and one most people will run into. Do you go "Oh, hold on guys, they have less people. Let's just chill out at stables for a while."? It's the same sort of unbalanced scenario, and most people would say no, they'd go and take what they could and farm the other side at their spawn for as long as they could.
There are a lot of twinks that like playing against other twinks, and they will try to do so. When they enter a BG and there's no one else twinking though, well, might as well earn the non-twinks on their team some easy honor.