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Bingo: A gateway drug

_J__J_ PedantRegistered User, __BANNED USERS regular
edited December 2006 in Debate and/or Discourse
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/01/pot.grandma.ap/index.html
SIERRA VISTA, Arizona (AP) -- A grandmother found with a trunk full of marijuana was convicted of drug running in what prosecutors said was an attempt to earn cash for a bingo habit.

State troopers found 10 bundles of pot totaling 214 pounds hidden in Leticia Villareal Garcia's car trunk last year when they stopped her outside Bisbee, in far southeastern Arizona.

Villareal, 61, told jurors before they convicted her Thursday that her only regular income was a $275 monthly welfare check, but she frequently played bingo and occasionally won thousands of dollars.

Prosecutor Doyle Johnstun said the game was Villareal's undoing.

"People who play bingo almost every night of the week end up losing in the long run," Johnstun told jurors. "The underlying issue is that she's got a bingo problem, which explains why an otherwise nice person might get sucked into something like this."

Jurors rejected Villareal's argument that she'd been tricked into carrying the drugs.

Villareal faces three to 12 years in state prison when she is sentenced December 18.

I think allowing the elderly access to a destructive outlet such as Bingo flies in the face of all good reason and proper conduct. We must bring an end to Bingo so that we can protect our Elders!

I think this is my favorite line:
People who play bingo almost every night of the week end up losing in the long run

So what do you think? Will Joy "joystick" leiberman descend upon the institution of Bingo? What about Jack Thompson?

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    People who play bingo vote. So, no.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    _J_ wrote:
    So what do you think? Will Joy "joystick" leiberman descend upon the institution of Bingo? What about Jack Thompson?

    No, because it is one instance of gambling that we have grown to accept as a culture and fighting against it would be perilous, unlike online gambling which can easily be demonized for the repsective idiots.

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    CorlisCorlis Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Isn't the common argument against marijuana is that it's a gateway drug? Interesting juxtaposition.

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    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    moniker wrote:
    _J_ wrote:
    So what do you think? Will Joy "joystick" leiberman descend upon the institution of Bingo? What about Jack Thompson?

    No, because it is one instance of gambling that we have grown to accept as a culture and fighting against it would be perilous, unlike online gambling which can easily be demonized for the repsective idiots.

    It's kind of ironic, since it specifically targets a group that is less likely to be able to afford it.

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    ChangesChanges Registered User new member
    edited December 2006
    jothki wrote:
    moniker wrote:
    _J_ wrote:
    So what do you think? Will Joy "joystick" leiberman descend upon the institution of Bingo? What about Jack Thompson?

    No, because it is one instance of gambling that we have grown to accept as a culture and fighting against it would be perilous, unlike online gambling which can easily be demonized for the repsective idiots.

    It's kind of ironic, since it specifically targets a group that is less likely to be able to afford it.

    Recently bingo has been getting a face lift though, Gala bingo in the UK seems to putting late 20s early 30s models in their adverts as opposed to the late 50s early 60s that actually goto the halls and play.

    The best one was when I drove past and saw a burly bouncer (!) bouncing outside one of Galas bingo halls, those old people, once they get some teeth in them they are so much trouble...

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    edited December 2006
    This happened Arizona, too. The state of Arizona has an explicit zero tolerance enforcement policy on marijuana and some of the harshest minimum punishments in the country.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Feral wrote:
    This happened Arizona, too. The state of Arizona has an explicit zero tolerance enforcement policy on marijuana and some of the harshest minimum punishments in the country.

    And are their prisons busting at the seams? I really really wish the subject of decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana could at least begin to be discussed seriously.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Septus wrote:
    Feral wrote:
    This happened Arizona, too. The state of Arizona has an explicit zero tolerance enforcement policy on marijuana and some of the harshest minimum punishments in the country.

    And are their prisons busting at the seams? I really really wish the subject of decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana could at least begin to be discussed seriously.

    In some areas it can be. It's very, very close to decriminalized in San Francisco. Possession of small amounts is a misdemeanor that doesn't even get jail time; medical marijuana is very easy to obtain (in fact it's a little too underregulated IMO but that's an unfortunate necessity right now); and the San Francisco city and county law enforcement officially place it as one of their lowest enforcement priorities.

    And, yes, Arizona's prison system is massively overcrowded. I don't know how much of that can be blamed on their zero tolerance drug policy, though.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Feral wrote:
    Septus wrote:
    Feral wrote:
    This happened Arizona, too. The state of Arizona has an explicit zero tolerance enforcement policy on marijuana and some of the harshest minimum punishments in the country.

    And are their prisons busting at the seams? I really really wish the subject of decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana could at least begin to be discussed seriously.
    In some areas it can be. It's very, very close to decriminalized in San Francisco. Possession of small amounts is a misdemeanor that doesn't even get jail time; medical marijuana is very easy to obtain (in fact it's a little too underregulated IMO but that's an unfortunate necessity right now); and the San Francisco city and county law enforcement officially place it as one of their lowest enforcement priorities.

    And, yes, Arizona's prison system is massively overcrowded. I don't know how much of that can be blamed on their zero tolerance drug policy, though.
    Follow the coast north from San Francisco, and it's largely the same in most counties. If anything, it's much less regulated. I don't think the San Francisco economy depends on it anywhere near as much as the Humboldt, Mendocino, and, at least somewhat, Sonoma county economies do.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You guys should change your nickname from the golden state to the green state. :wink:

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    moniker wrote:
    You guys should change your nickname from the golden state to the green state. :wink:
    You know when harvest season is, because the area's population probably triples. The soup kitchens serve three times as many meals, to people looking for work as trimmers. Shortly thereafter, you have people driving around in brand new cars everywhere.

    As a note, this county (Mendocino) has one of the worst cost of living:income ratios in the country.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Bingo, at least around here, is mostly run by churches.

    Thus: Not going anywhere ever.

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    Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Here in Finland, glamorous tranny bingo was hugely popular some time ago. Who wouldn't trade drugs to be able to afford that?

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Bliss 101 wrote:
    Here in Finland, glamorous tranny bingo was hugely popular some time ago. Who wouldn't trade drugs to be able to afford that?

    Wait...what?

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Inquisitor wrote:
    Bliss 101 wrote:
    Here in Finland, glamorous tranny bingo was hugely popular some time ago. Who wouldn't trade drugs to be able to afford that?

    Wait...what?

    Eh.

    The trans down here are more festive.

    I used to hear about one who would do some sort of Soul Train game show thing at the gay clubs, then get drunk and lose their wig.

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    CeloisCelois Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Thanatos wrote:
    Feral wrote:
    Septus wrote:
    Feral wrote:
    This happened Arizona, too. The state of Arizona has an explicit zero tolerance enforcement policy on marijuana and some of the harshest minimum punishments in the country.

    And are their prisons busting at the seams? I really really wish the subject of decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana could at least begin to be discussed seriously.
    In some areas it can be. It's very, very close to decriminalized in San Francisco. Possession of small amounts is a misdemeanor that doesn't even get jail time; medical marijuana is very easy to obtain (in fact it's a little too underregulated IMO but that's an unfortunate necessity right now); and the San Francisco city and county law enforcement officially place it as one of their lowest enforcement priorities.

    And, yes, Arizona's prison system is massively overcrowded. I don't know how much of that can be blamed on their zero tolerance drug policy, though.
    Follow the coast north from San Francisco, and it's largely the same in most counties. If anything, it's much less regulated. I don't think the San Francisco economy depends on it anywhere near as much as the Humboldt, Mendocino, and, at least somewhat, Sonoma county economies do.

    Pretty much true. I'd agree with Humboldt, Mendocino, and terrible toothless Lake County, but definitely not Sonoma County(Where I live) though . Just minor nitpicking /shrug

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    edited December 2006
    Inquisitor wrote:
    Bliss 101 wrote:
    Here in Finland, glamorous tranny bingo was hugely popular some time ago. Who wouldn't trade drugs to be able to afford that?

    Wait...what?

    Well, it makes mre sense than tlamorous granny bingo.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    QuelrethQuelreth Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Feral wrote:
    Septus wrote:
    Feral wrote:
    This happened Arizona, too. The state of Arizona has an explicit zero tolerance enforcement policy on marijuana and some of the harshest minimum punishments in the country.

    And are their prisons busting at the seams? I really really wish the subject of decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana could at least begin to be discussed seriously.

    In some areas it can be. It's very, very close to decriminalized in San Francisco. Possession of small amounts is a misdemeanor that doesn't even get jail time; medical marijuana is very easy to obtain (in fact it's a little too underregulated IMO but that's an unfortunate necessity right now); and the San Francisco city and county law enforcement officially place it as one of their lowest enforcement priorities.

    And, yes, Arizona's prison system is massively overcrowded. I don't know how much of that can be blamed on their zero tolerance drug policy, though.

    Stories like this wig me the hell out after living in San Francisco for a while. I really don't understand how the city is getting away with cannabis clubs, but then again I've been told they get raided by the DEA on a not-unregular basis. I mean, one of my friends has a club card that he legally obtained, and he sure as hell doesn't have any kind of debilitating disease. 3-12 years for weed strikes me as completely ridiculous.

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    Eliot DuboisEliot Dubois Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I just read this story, and found it so fitting. Bingo is really no different than any other casino game, yet it legal throughout the country. Weed is really less harmful overall than tobacco or alcohol, yet it is illegal. Just shows how powerful old people really are.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Just shows how powerful old people really are.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Until you lock 'em out of the Country Kitchen Buffet. Then they're powerless.

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