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Ulduar harder than Naxx! More at 11 [SE++ WoW]

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    MittenMitten Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Things might have changed, but I remember Reflective Shield being pretty popular at least for 2s in BC.

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    But yeah, for raiding, you should be saving the points

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    futility wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    futility wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    futility wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    I bought a Nobles deck!

    Damnit!
    (not that I should be upset it's not like I'm working hard for the money)

    Immediately after I spent 1600 on a red drake so I'm not very responsible with my money anyway.

    meh... it's not like you need money for much of anything anymore. You earn your gear, raiding almost pays for itself (minus flasks which dailies can take care of)

    yeah most of the people who were in the raid tonight probably spent 300-400g apiece in repairs

    progression is expensive, its farmed content that more than pays for itself.

    you wiped 12-20 times in a night. That's quite a lot of wiping.

    and every one on Mimiron

    Balefuego on
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    World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    it is hard to get 5k by 77, yes

    Not you too!
    you're about three months too late to save me

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    it is hard to get 5k by 77, yes

    Not you too!
    you're about three months too late to save me

    I blame Cappy. There's obviously not enough independent music and chiseled abdomen in your life.

    FOR SHAME, CAPTAIN CTHULHU!

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    That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    He plays as well.

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Honestly DW the "oh man wow help" doesn't play well in this thread

    as we all play wow

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    World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    it is hard to get 5k by 77, yes

    Not you too!
    you're about three months too late to save me

    I blame Cappy. There's obviously not enough independent music and chiseled abdomen in your life.

    FOR SHAME, CAPTAIN CTHULHU!
    oh no

    there's plenty of abdomen

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I knew it, you shameless, licentious hussy.

    Seriously though, I'm intrigued by WoW, which is why I picked it up, but it seems more like a sport than an actual RPG to me. I guess it's just not in my niche, but I do understand the motivation to play and now you guys get to have one less anonymous internet person making fun of you.

    So, congratulations, I guess.

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    BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator mod
    edited April 2009
    I will step up and pick up DW's slack then.

    *cough*

    You suck, WoW players! :o

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    *snicker*

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    FrylockHolmesFrylockHolmes Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    that's it bogey, I'm telling LD on you and you're getting gkicked!

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Bainn you owe everyone in the raid last night for repairs

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Oh come on, we (probably) wouldn't have downed him even if he'd been there. Though we would have made it to phase 4 a few more times and possibly learned it well enough

    That'll be about 150g for me, Bainn.

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    futilityfutility Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Balefuego wrote: »
    futility wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    futility wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    futility wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    I bought a Nobles deck!

    Damnit!
    (not that I should be upset it's not like I'm working hard for the money)

    Immediately after I spent 1600 on a red drake so I'm not very responsible with my money anyway.

    meh... it's not like you need money for much of anything anymore. You earn your gear, raiding almost pays for itself (minus flasks which dailies can take care of)

    yeah most of the people who were in the raid tonight probably spent 300-400g apiece in repairs

    progression is expensive, its farmed content that more than pays for itself.

    you wiped 12-20 times in a night. That's quite a lot of wiping.

    and every one on Mimiron

    ok well... good for you? I totally disagree that progression is expensive. So far throughout the course of raiding naxx and even going out to often buy ridiculously overpriced ammo my cash balance stayed about the same. We died a lot there too, but the cash rewards from selling grays, bandages, and gold drops about makes up for things... even the fact that it costs me something like 20-40s to use any ability not related to "make pet bite things"

    edit: or perhaps my experience is just grossly different

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    KusuguttaiKusuguttai __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    but naxx wasnt new content

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Ulduar is nearly completely trashless. Except Freya's room. There's not a lot of raid-induced income to compensate for learning thirteen boss fights.

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    TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I got Handwraps of Resonance from a PUG Ulduar 10 so after I pop them on the AH, I am gonna join the "raiding is profitable" side.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    shek, no.

    raids on farm = making money

    busting your head over and over and over on new encounters until you learn them = expensive

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited April 2009
    bale why you always got yo mind on yo money and yo money on yo mind is what I want to know

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    TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Javen wrote: »
    Ulduar is nearly completely trashless. Except Freya's room. There's not a lot of raid-induced income to compensate for learning thirteen boss fights.

    It rains money in Freya's room though.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Freya's room is so boring

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    TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Freya's room is so boring

    Yeah it is.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Javen wrote: »
    Ulduar is nearly completely trashless. Except Freya's room. There's not a lot of raid-induced income to compensate for learning thirteen boss fights.

    It rains money in Freya's room though.

    Especially the alchemists bag.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It's worth it though. I don't care if we wipe on a boss 50 or a hundred times, I'll always enjoy learning encounters more than I enjoy farming an instance. That's why I'm so giddy for hard modes.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I love progression too, learning and defeating new content is pretty much the most satisfying thing in WoW.

    But pretending its not expensive is silly.

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    SASA Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I farm all my own reagents for consumables. So really the only thing I shell out for is repairs and between the gold earned from the earlier easy bosses. Plus the handful of dailies I do I come out on top.

    But yeah if you buy flasks, food, and potions it can get really really expensive.

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    That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    You around tonight javen? I promise I won't fall asleep again.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Yeah I will.

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    That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    around when?

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    around now

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    That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    lets do it!

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    Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    futility wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    futility wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    futility wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    futility wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    I bought a Nobles deck!

    Damnit!
    (not that I should be upset it's not like I'm working hard for the money)

    Immediately after I spent 1600 on a red drake so I'm not very responsible with my money anyway.

    meh... it's not like you need money for much of anything anymore. You earn your gear, raiding almost pays for itself (minus flasks which dailies can take care of)

    yeah most of the people who were in the raid tonight probably spent 300-400g apiece in repairs

    progression is expensive, its farmed content that more than pays for itself.

    you wiped 12-20 times in a night. That's quite a lot of wiping.

    and every one on Mimiron

    ok well... good for you? I totally disagree that progression is expensive. So far throughout the course of raiding naxx and even going out to often buy ridiculously overpriced ammo my cash balance stayed about the same. We died a lot there too, but the cash rewards from selling grays, bandages, and gold drops about makes up for things... even the fact that it costs me something like 20-40s to use any ability not related to "make pet bite things"

    edit: or perhaps my experience is just grossly different

    Naxx was incredibly easy and had way more trash drops.
    We spent like 8 hours total in what could reasonably called "progression mode".
    We didn't need 20 fish feasts per night, most people didn't even need to bother with flasks (and the materials were less expensive than they are right now), and we never spent an entire night failing to defeat one boss.

    You can't look at a 4 hour raid without a single drop from anything, 20 wipes, 20 fish feasts, 30 flasks, and who knows how many other consumables used and claim that progression is not expensive.

    And even if you farm your own consumables, that's time you could have spent doing dailies for piles of cash money instead.

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    GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    What Mirren said.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Metacortex wrote: »
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    lookin' up disc strategies

    apprently the more i up my crit the more divine aegis procs, and the more the mt stays alive!
    Before this patch all you really wanted to do was stack crit, crit and more crit. But EJ has been suggesting that post-patch, you actually need to keep a balance of haste and crit, with more emphasis on crit.

    Cilla Black why does reflective shield seem to be considered a shitty talent? On a gut level it looks awesome.... is this an end-game raiding thing?

    Pretty sure it only works if the shield is on the priest who casts it. I guess it would be somewhat nice for PvP but it's useless for PvE.
    Yes this. The tooltip doesn't do a great job of saying so, but the reflection only affects the priest. Therefore, it's 100% a pvp talent with 0 use in pve.

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    KusuguttaiKusuguttai __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    MEISSNERD I CURSE YOUR NAME FROM THE HEAVENS

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    SASA Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    what about me, Kusu

    I feel left out

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    babyeatingjesusbabyeatingjesus Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    are we any closer to figuring out what the raid schedule is yet?

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    SASA Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    nope

    I really think we should have at least a partial 25man naxx run on tuesdays

    and put partial ulduar progression runs on other days

    but thats just me

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    babyeatingjesusbabyeatingjesus Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    yeah I want 25 man dps pants and armageddon dammit!

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