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Microsoft now covers "E74" problem for 3 years

LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Games and Technology
The standard warranty for the Xbox 360 is 1 year, but Microsoft extended the warranty on the RROD to 3 years.

They have now extended the warranty for another fairly common error, "Error code E74" to 3 years too. Details here:
While the majority of Xbox 360 owners continue to have a great experience with their console, we are aware that a very small percentage of our customers have reported receiving an error that displays “E74” on their screen. After investigating the issue, we have determined that the E74 error message can indicate the general hardware failure that is associated with three flashing red lights error on the console. As a result, we have decided to cover repairs related to the E74 error message under our three-year warranty program for certain general hardware failures that was announced in July 2007. We have already made improvements to the console that will reduce the likelihood of an occurrence of this issue. Detailed information related to the Xbox 360 warranty and resources for those who require repair can be found at www.xbox.com/support.

Microsoft will refund to customers the amount paid for an out of warranty repair due to a general hardware failure associated with the e74 error message. Those customers should automatically receive the refund within 4-12 weeks, and no additional action by customers should be necessary. However, if a customer has not received a refund by July 1, 2009, the customer should visit www.xbox.com/support before November 1, 2009 for information on how to place a claim. All refund claims must be received on or before November 1, 2009.’ For more information about troubleshooting the E74 error message, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:

To be honest, I think it is pretty bullshit that they don't just give three year warranty for all problems, but this will be good news to some people.

It might also be too little too late.

Just thought a heads up would be in order.

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  • PemulisPemulis Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Hmm, good news. I just heard about this error a few days ago.

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  • FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    What's bullshit is that they made a faulty system in the first place, cuz they just HAD to get their system out first. But when a company that fucks up fully acknowledges it, and they extend their warranty to three years -- twice, for two separate issues -- AND refunds people the cost of a repair automatically for previously handled repairs, you have to give them at least some credit.

    *waits for his 360 to E74*

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    With all the money they're hemorrhaging on repair costs this gen, I have to think that Microsoft will spend twice as much time attempting to ensure their next console has noticeably fewer bugs. This has got to be both a PR nightmare and a constant strain for investor relations.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Doesn't a 3 year warranty against 'general hardware errors' pretty much cover 'everything'?

    Or are general hardware errors more specific than their name would suggest?

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Gyral wrote: »
    With all the money they're hemorrhaging on repair costs this gen, I have to think that Microsoft will spend twice as much time attempting to ensure their next console has noticeably fewer bugs. This has got to be both a PR nightmare and a constant strain for investor relations.

    It's odd, because it doesn't really seem to have been much of a PR nightmare. I mean, most people who own an xbox 360 seems to love it and recommend them often even if they've suffered a hardware fault. Sure, it's ammo for the fanboys but I think if you polled opinions on the three systems, the 360 would still perform favourable. Meanwhile, you never hear anything in the news about financial problems with Microsoft to worry investors, unlike Sony. 360 sales certainly trucked along happily enough through the worst of their problems and any fall-off at this point is more likely due to the system being several years old now.

    By all accounts, you'd think it would've been a disaster that would bring the company and their share value to the brink (see also: Sony laptop batteries) but besides the occasional angry but harmless flare-up it seems to have been a mostly dormant affliction.

    I guess when you have enough money to throw around you can spend big on customer services and extended warranties with one hand to quell the PR issues whilst buying in the big-name software titles to keep people coming to your system and maintaining value for investors with the other hand.

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  • NailbunnyPDNailbunnyPD Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Doesn't a 3 year warranty against 'general hardware errors' pretty much cover 'everything'?

    Or are general hardware errors more specific than their name would suggest?

    I believe it pertains to specific components, like the graphics chip and CPU.

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  • LuqLuq Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Gyral wrote: »
    With all the money they're hemorrhaging on repair costs this gen, I have to think that Microsoft will spend twice as much time attempting to ensure their next console has noticeably fewer bugs. This has got to be both a PR nightmare and a constant strain for investor relations.

    It's odd, because it doesn't really seem to have been much of a PR nightmare. I mean, most people who own an xbox 360 seems to love it and recommend them often even if they've suffered a hardware fault. Sure, it's ammo for the fanboys but I think if you polled opinions on the three systems, the 360 would still perform favourable. Meanwhile, you never hear anything in the news about financial problems with Microsoft to worry investors, unlike Sony. 360 sales certainly trucked along happily enough through the worst of their problems and any fall-off at this point is more likely due to the system being several years old now.

    By all accounts, you'd think it would've been a disaster that would bring the company and their share value to the brink (see also: Sony laptop batteries) but besides the occasional angry but harmless flare-up it seems to have been a mostly dormant affliction.

    It's not a big deal to us now, but it used to be. I think it definitely slowed sales among "core gamers" or whatever. I would probably own one if I didn't have that reason for holding off even last year (was waiting for Jasper). Now I've lost any desire to get one.

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Gyral wrote: »
    With all the money they're hemorrhaging on repair costs this gen, I have to think that Microsoft will spend twice as much time attempting to ensure their next console has noticeably fewer bugs. This has got to be both a PR nightmare and a constant strain for investor relations.

    It's odd, because it doesn't really seem to have been much of a PR nightmare. I mean, most people who own an xbox 360 seems to love it and recommend them often even if they've suffered a hardware fault. Sure, it's ammo for the fanboys but I think if you polled opinions on the three systems, the 360 would still perform favourable. Meanwhile, you never hear anything in the news about financial problems with Microsoft to worry investors, unlike Sony. 360 sales certainly trucked along happily enough through the worst of their problems and any fall-off at this point is more likely due to the system being several years old now.

    By all accounts, you'd think it would've been a disaster that would bring the company and their share value to the brink (see also: Sony laptop batteries) but besides the occasional angry but harmless flare-up it seems to have been a mostly dormant affliction.

    I guess when you have enough money to throw around you can spend big on customer services and extended warranties with one hand to quell the PR issues whilst buying in the big-name software titles to keep people coming to your system and maintaining value for investors with the other hand.

    I think from a public perspective, MS has been on the ball, but you know the people who work for them have to be sweating it when stuff like this comes up. Also, I'm sure their number crunchers are happy with the profits but you know they can't ignore the repair costs that are on the books and wonder "how much more could we be making?"

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Huh I got this code a few weeks ago.

    I just dropped the thing out of the window and bought a new one.

    Arse.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Gyral wrote: »
    With all the money they're hemorrhaging on repair costs this gen, I have to think that Microsoft will spend twice as much time attempting to ensure their next console has noticeably fewer bugs. This has got to be both a PR nightmare and a constant strain for investor relations.

    It's odd, because it doesn't really seem to have been much of a PR nightmare. I mean, most people who own an xbox 360 seems to love it and recommend them often even if they've suffered a hardware fault. Sure, it's ammo for the fanboys but I think if you polled opinions on the three systems, the 360 would still perform favourable. Meanwhile, you never hear anything in the news about financial problems with Microsoft to worry investors, unlike Sony. 360 sales certainly trucked along happily enough through the worst of their problems and any fall-off at this point is more likely due to the system being several years old now.

    By all accounts, you'd think it would've been a disaster that would bring the company and their share value to the brink (see also: Sony laptop batteries) but besides the occasional angry but harmless flare-up it seems to have been a mostly dormant affliction.

    I guess when you have enough money to throw around you can spend big on customer services and extended warranties with one hand to quell the PR issues whilst buying in the big-name software titles to keep people coming to your system and maintaining value for investors with the other hand.

    Well, it's the same reason most die-hard PS2 owners loved the shit out of their console and bought replacements even though it was the most prone to DREs and other hardware problems: You enjoy the games you own so much that you're willing to let some things slide. I've been through one RRoD, but it didn't bug me at all because I was covered under the first extended warranty and had a new console back to me within two weeks.

    If I didn't own a 360 or PS3 and I was trying to choose between them, I think build quality might push me over to the PS3, honestly, but now that I have so many games and DLC with the system, it's not worth the hassle and expense of selling off everything and buying into the other camp.

    And look at Sony's specific case: The PS2 was plagued with hardware problems, and the impression I get is that the PS3 runs rock-solid. Things can change a lot between generations, so who knows how Microsoft's next box will turn out?
    LewieP wrote:
    To be honest, I think it is pretty bullshit that they don't just give three year warranty for all problems, but this will be good news to some people.

    Serious question: Do any consumer electronic devices have a three-year standard warranty?

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  • ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Oh ho. My brother's just did this last week. It was nearly a launch box, hopefully its still under warranty.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Good goddamn, Microsoft's having to pay out the nose for 360 repairs. All because of a little corner-cutting.

    Ah well, at least they didn't let this problem stay out of hand for over a year before addressing it.

    I'll ask again: does this problem affect Jaspers?

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  • Dr. WormDr. Worm Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Would a failure of the front two USB ports fall under General Hardware failure? That just happened to me this week. I can still use the system (although I had two brief instances of the flashing RRoD, scared the hell out of me), but only the USB port in the rear of the machine currently works.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    It needs reiterating in every thread like this but they are only doing this because its cheaper than a lawsuit. They're not nice people accepting their fuck ups and maintain good customer service, they're just covering their asses so if anyone tries to sue they can say they have a system in place to help them out.

    This is instead of fixing whatevers wrong with the things because even the newest models can and will still die. Just with less frequency.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Lunker wrote: »
    LewieP wrote:
    To be honest, I think it is pretty bullshit that they don't just give three year warranty for all problems, but this will be good news to some people.

    Serious question: Do any consumer electronic devices have a three-year standard warranty?

    I don't know, but you can be damn sure that if I bought something expensive, and it broke due to a manufacture fault, in less than 3 years, I would be getting a replacement/refund. Under UK law I would be entitled to it, not sure how that works internationally.


    Edit: @Dr. Worm

    Not ideal, but as a workaround, you could get a USB hub. How long have you had the console?

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    LewieP wrote: »
    I don't know, but you can be damn sure that if I bought something expensive, and it broke due to a manufacture fault, in less than 3 years, I would be getting a replacement/refund. Under UK law I would be entitled to it, not sure how that works internationally.

    It doesn't.

    Of course we pay the same in dollars as you do in pounds for our shit, so it's a mitigating factor.

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  • HandkorHandkor Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Well I guess I'll send mine in, I just bought a replacement console though. But I love my new red Jasper so it's not a loss.

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  • Dr. WormDr. Worm Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    LewieP wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    LewieP wrote:
    To be honest, I think it is pretty bullshit that they don't just give three year warranty for all problems, but this will be good news to some people.

    Serious question: Do any consumer electronic devices have a three-year standard warranty?

    I don't know, but you can be damn sure that if I bought something expensive, and it broke due to a manufacture fault, in less than 3 years, I would be getting a replacement/refund. Under UK law I would be entitled to it, not sure how that works internationally.


    Edit: @Dr. Worm

    Not ideal, but as a workaround, you could get a USB hub. How long have you had the console?

    I've had it for about 16 months; it was manufactured in Dec. 2007. I thought it might be the use of the hub that comes with Rock band that blew out the front two hubs, I've been having trouble with it for a while.

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  • GanluanGanluan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    My 360 got this error 3 weeks before the one year warranty expired. At least I know I'm covered if it comes back...

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Microsoft learned a hard lesson this generation.

    spending 1-3$ more on parts would have saved them millions of dollars in losses.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I got that error about 3 months after the one year warranty expired, but had an extended warranty at Best Buy. I didn't get the extended warranty on the replacement, so this makes me very, very happy.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    Microsoft learned a hard lesson this generation.

    spending 1-3$ more on parts would have saved them millions of dollars in losses.

    It has a lot to do with the initial case design as well, it's kinda a mess in there considering they designed the case before they finalized the components.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    yeah, but if you have a re-orientable console and then don't spend the 1$ to make it so discs aren't eaten by reorienting the console, that was an easily avoidable waste of money.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    You should never run the 360 vertically anyways, it's wobbly.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    If I run mine vertically, it achieves resonance with the desk and the desk/monitors/xbox start vibrating loudly. If you put your hand on the desk, you can feel it shaking.

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  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    I'll ask again: does this problem affect Jaspers?

    Isn't it kind of early for anyone to know?

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I have an older 360, and am pretty much just waiting for the littler fucker to die. Watch, I'll end up with the one old non-hdmi 360 that will not die during it's lifespan.

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  • Nimble CatNimble Cat Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I've been getting this, but I think I'm out of warranty, even with the extension.

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  • SkullOmaniaSkullOmania Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I had to pay for my console to be repaired for this problem around new years' - it was within a year of purchase but I couldn't find the receipt to prove the date of purchase. It will be interesting to see if I get my 50 quid back within the next 4 - 12 weeks.

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  • BigPointyTeethBigPointyTeeth run away! run away! MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dr. Worm wrote: »
    Would a failure of the front two USB ports fall under General Hardware failure? That just happened to me this week. I can still use the system (although I had two brief instances of the flashing RRoD, scared the hell out of me), but only the USB port in the rear of the machine currently works.

    I had this happen once to me way back when I first got mine. The fix that worked for me was to unplug the 360 completely, all cords disconnected from the system for about five minutes. Plugged it all back in and they worked again. Never had a problem with them since.

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  • Dr. WormDr. Worm Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dr. Worm wrote: »
    Would a failure of the front two USB ports fall under General Hardware failure? That just happened to me this week. I can still use the system (although I had two brief instances of the flashing RRoD, scared the hell out of me), but only the USB port in the rear of the machine currently works.

    I had this happen once to me way back when I first got mine. The fix that worked for me was to unplug the 360 completely, all cords disconnected from the system for about five minutes. Plugged it all back in and they worked again. Never had a problem with them since.

    Thanks for the info, I'll try that and see if it works.

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