Are you solo healing a tank? If so 3x rolling blooms (or letting them expire) is fine but honestly it's a waste of mana if someone else is casting direct heals on them. Use your Omen of Clarity procs to put LB up - between rejuv / regrowth / nourish and swiftmend you should be covered for healing a tank. That said, it's not our optimal role, at least not in a raid, where rejuv and WG blankets can handle the majority of the AOE damage that hard modes dump on you.
I'm really lazy about clearcasting, I just cast whatever I was going to cast and forget about it. I've never really gone OOM on a big fight. Once in awhile I need to use inervate, but it's ok because none of the other healers ever ask for it anyway.
Are you solo healing a tank? If so 3x rolling blooms (or letting them expire) is fine but honestly it's a waste of mana if someone else is casting direct heals on them. Use your Omen of Clarity procs to put LB up - between rejuv / regrowth / nourish and swiftmend you should be covered for healing a tank. That said, it's not our optimal role, at least not in a raid, where rejuv and WG blankets can handle the majority of the AOE damage that hard modes dump on you.
I don't have mana issues. Lifebloom is like ~1100 HP/sec, so nice for tank healing. Bloom aside, the more hots the better. I got my 4 piece bonus tonight! And Rapture! And shoulders off of Mimiron! I have no DKP!
Congrats on the gear - with the 4P T8 bonus though I would start focusing on raid healing more so you can see the beauty of it, especially for hard modes.
I think I unconsciously went boomkin when I started replaying my tauren druid (first character I ever made) partly so I didn't have to look at the cat form.
... or because I'd already leveled a night elf druid to 70 as feral. It's a tossup.
but soon it's alll going to change. I won't have to feel like the bastard son of a wyvern, a lion, and two sharp pokey things anymore. :P
76 druid in a casual guild looking to go raiding when i hit 80, and i have been intensely strugging over which of these combinations to pursue
cat/bear
cat/resto
balance/bear
balance/resto
I want DPS so i can do quests and whatnot with ease, yet I want to get into groups, I am reasonably skilled in all of these specs
if you have anything to say that would push me in any direction i would really appreciate it because i am completely nuetral now that people made resto more attractive to me, bringing it back into the mix
I am cat/resto and I like it a lot. You have to collect 2 completely different sets of gear whereas with balance/resto you can have some overlap so you'll have more bag space. I don't find it to be a problem though with 20 slot bags.
I raid resto almost exclusively as the only tree in the guild it has quickly become my main spec. I still like having cat for when we have enough healers and dps is needed. It also makes doing dailies a snap. If you want to get use out of all your forms it's not a bad way to go.
would you say a tree is in more demand than a bear? my biggest worry is lifebloom is getting nerfed again in 3.2
The nerf won't affect raiding, most of the bloom is generally overheal. It's a nerf for pvp.
I would say tanks are in demand more for pugs in general and healers are in demand more for raiding. However I see very few bear tanks on my server and I'm afraid people are more likely to wait for a different tank like a DK. Tree druids though are generally well liked.
Bear isn't in demand because my guild already has a really good one. Tanks are always needed, it really depends on what you want to do. And Lifebloom is and will be fine. It's not even a resto druid's main heal anymore. It's useful, but it isn't the be all end all like it was.
Also hi5 Drool for picking the same specs as me. You're right, bag space isn't a problem. I love how fast cat is for literally everything, no downtime, and tree healing is pretty fun and different from other healers.
Yeah healing / cat is pretty good spec choice. I went with bear / cat just because my healing gear is shitty and I didn't have a ton of interest in healing again. Plus, I was asked to resubbed to dps anyway. I haven't even swapped specs since I subbed because I haven't been doing anything but raiding really.
Tanking and healing is pretty damn different. Just pick which one you'd rather do than pussyfooting around the decision.
I hear this all the time and it just shows an integral misunderstand of how some people make these sorts of decisions
Whenever I play a game, I don't just suddenly have some strong urge to make a druid, or a rogue, or a priest, or anything like that. What I do is I like to read deeply into everything and see what happens to stand out
I've done healing and i've done tanking, and i find the biggest pain with both of them is when you have a bad healer or a bad tank. I like both, but neither really stands out to me, fun-wise. What i really want is to find groups easily. I enjoy achievement and progression, it doesn't matter to me whether I am clicking rejuvenation or tapping swipe. Which is why i asked which one has high demand.
Anyone with a sense of obervation would know that if I had a preference that I would just go for it, but i don't have any obvious preference. I'm trying to build a preference. Have you ever had a hard time deciding what to eat for dinner, or for that matter trying to decide on anything? I haven't played in ~8 months before last week and I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about me trying to educate myself
Tanking and healing is pretty damn different. Just pick which one you'd rather do than pussyfooting around the decision.
I hear this all the time and it just shows an integral misunderstand of how some people make these sorts of decisions
Whenever I play a game, I don't just suddenly have some strong urge to make a druid, or a rogue, or a priest, or anything like that. What I do is I like to read deeply into everything and see what happens to stand out
I've done healing and i've done tanking, and i find the biggest pain with both of them is when you have a bad healer or a bad tank. I like both, but neither really stands out to me, fun-wise. What i really want is to find groups easily. I enjoy achievement and progression, it doesn't matter to me whether I am clicking rejuvenation or tapping swipe. Which is why i asked which one has high demand.
Anyone with a sense of obervation would know that if I had a preference that I would just go for it, but i don't have any obvious preference. I'm trying to build a preference. Have you ever had a hard time deciding what to eat for dinner, or for that matter trying to decide on anything? I haven't played in ~8 months before last week and I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about me trying to educate myself
I would say go feral(with tanking talents)/resto. Depending on your server if tanks or healers are needed more you're covered. And worse comes to worse, you can always respec and try balance or cat or whichever later on.
@naphtali
i'm just worried my dps for dailies etc is going to be a bit low, but your point is a good one, if i go balance/bear or cat/resto, i can always switch with little changing to gear
or i can do as you say and go bear/resto, and after playing both for a while decide, after I get used to the recent changes (this might be preferable now that i think about it)
So since i already have balance/resto, i think i will go cat/resto while leveling, and then i can switch to bear resto when i hit 80, and then decide after i've experienced them all (cat/bear/resto/balance)
yay for decision!
I knew that was rude when I type it but didn't feel like fixing it. Sorry cunty. It was more rude because I can't stand people asking others to make a decision for them instead of just deciding. If you're just looking for reasons, I can't fault that.
As for progression and such, I'd honestly go cat / healing. While tanking is in demand, you need very few tanks to progress in content. In a 25 man raid, you only need 3 or 4 tanks and most decent guilds have that covered easily. Healers, however, are almost always in demand in raids because you need 5-7 and they get burned out the fastest from what I've seen.
Having a dps off-spec means farming and dailies are way, way easier, plus it means if the group already has a healer you can go as dps. PuGs it's useful since you may start as dps but swap to healing when someone leaves.
I knew that was rude when I type it but didn't feel like fixing it. Sorry cunty. It was more rude because I can't stand people asking others to make a decision for them instead of just deciding. If you're just looking for reasons, I can't fault that.
As for progression and such, I'd honestly go cat / healing. While tanking is in demand, you need very few tanks to progress in content. In a 25 man raid, you only need 3 or 4 tanks and most decent guilds have that covered easily. Healers, however, are almost always in demand in raids because you need 5-7 and they get burned out the fastest from what I've seen.
Having a dps off-spec means farming and dailies are way, way easier, plus it means if the group already has a healer you can go as dps. PuGs it's useful since you may start as dps but swap to healing when someone leaves.
this supports and reinforces my decision to go cat/resto and see where it goes from there
i appreciate it
this is something i've actually been agonizing over since i came back to wow and got dualspec, so it's nice to have a plan
how does balance do with grinding dailies? is it really way worse than LOLcat?
i quest with balance and i really have very little downtime especially with tea, and my gear isn't even that fantastic, mostly blues, some greens, some 70 epics
Innervate really speeds things up and you can get a glyph which further increases innervate, although you probably won't need it
I regularly get 6k+ starfire crits and 4.5k+ wrath crits at level 76, although noncrit damage isn't stellar. You can solo almost anything though with entangling roots, which is nice. I occasionally
solo elites that are higher level than me while waiting for a partymate
the biggest downside would be movement speed (although this is a bit balanced if you'll be prowling at all) and you don't have vanish, just shadowmeld
my opinion is go with which gear you have. if you have spell power gear, go for it
Having leveled balance from ~37 to 80, I can tell you that it seemed to be slower then feral until outland at least. past that point it improves immeasurably with outland greens.
once there, I think balance becomes almost as fast as feral, if not quite as efficient. Leveling through outland I found myself using starfall, treants, and hurricane (barkskin if I thought I'd need it or remembered). If I lived through the 5-8 mobs that the starfall aggro'd, then I'd drink and burn mobs down by one's and two's until starfall and treants were off cooldown.
At 80, and with a 1 min cooldown on both starfall and treants, I just do the same thing. I can complete the Argent Tournament quest to kill 15 scourge in Icecrown in about 5 minutes or 3-4 starfall pulls.
The one thing that I ran into most often was starfall pulling too many mobs and I'd die before my damage could kill them.
After all, it's mostly your preference on which way to level. To give an idea of my gear level, I'm in mostly naxx10 and a few naxx25 pieces. My wraths crit for about 5k and starfire crits for 10k.
After looking at my stats for last nights 25 man, I realise now how amazing Wild Growth is for everything. Like, crazy good. But I love my Swiftmend Glyph! And Lifebloom! And nourish!
Discuss why I am dumb for having one of these. I think it is either Bloom or Nourish... hmmm..
(I love nourish)
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For healing raid Wild Growth is 4tw, rejuv + swiftmend are nice for OH SHIT moments.
that's how my HoT cycle goes as well
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I don't have mana issues. Lifebloom is like ~1100 HP/sec, so nice for tank healing. Bloom aside, the more hots the better. I got my 4 piece bonus tonight! And Rapture! And shoulders off of Mimiron! I have no DKP!
Well come on man, pictures! I can't browse wow forums for those at work (but I can browse here strangely)!
Pictures spoilered for size.
Tauren Bear:
Night Elf Bear
Tauren Cat
Night Elf Cat
The different colors of each model are tied to skin color for tauren and hair color for night elf.
Edit: rehosted to photobucket. hope that allows viewing.
Course, there's not much else I can do.
Aside from downloading the picutures and rehosting them elsewhere.
Edit: which has been done.
... or because I'd already leveled a night elf druid to 70 as feral. It's a tossup.
but soon it's alll going to change. I won't have to feel like the bastard son of a wyvern, a lion, and two sharp pokey things anymore. :P
Damnit, the old bug is biting
cat/bear
cat/resto
balance/bear
balance/resto
I want DPS so i can do quests and whatnot with ease, yet I want to get into groups, I am reasonably skilled in all of these specs
if you have anything to say that would push me in any direction i would really appreciate it because i am completely nuetral now that people made resto more attractive to me, bringing it back into the mix
I raid resto almost exclusively as the only tree in the guild it has quickly become my main spec. I still like having cat for when we have enough healers and dps is needed. It also makes doing dailies a snap. If you want to get use out of all your forms it's not a bad way to go.
The nerf won't affect raiding, most of the bloom is generally overheal. It's a nerf for pvp.
I would say tanks are in demand more for pugs in general and healers are in demand more for raiding. However I see very few bear tanks on my server and I'm afraid people are more likely to wait for a different tank like a DK. Tree druids though are generally well liked.
I hear this all the time and it just shows an integral misunderstand of how some people make these sorts of decisions
Whenever I play a game, I don't just suddenly have some strong urge to make a druid, or a rogue, or a priest, or anything like that. What I do is I like to read deeply into everything and see what happens to stand out
I've done healing and i've done tanking, and i find the biggest pain with both of them is when you have a bad healer or a bad tank. I like both, but neither really stands out to me, fun-wise. What i really want is to find groups easily. I enjoy achievement and progression, it doesn't matter to me whether I am clicking rejuvenation or tapping swipe. Which is why i asked which one has high demand.
Anyone with a sense of obervation would know that if I had a preference that I would just go for it, but i don't have any obvious preference. I'm trying to build a preference. Have you ever had a hard time deciding what to eat for dinner, or for that matter trying to decide on anything? I haven't played in ~8 months before last week and I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about me trying to educate myself
I would say go feral(with tanking talents)/resto. Depending on your server if tanks or healers are needed more you're covered. And worse comes to worse, you can always respec and try balance or cat or whichever later on.
i'm just worried my dps for dailies etc is going to be a bit low, but your point is a good one, if i go balance/bear or cat/resto, i can always switch with little changing to gear
or i can do as you say and go bear/resto, and after playing both for a while decide, after I get used to the recent changes (this might be preferable now that i think about it)
So since i already have balance/resto, i think i will go cat/resto while leveling, and then i can switch to bear resto when i hit 80, and then decide after i've experienced them all (cat/bear/resto/balance)
yay for decision!
really appreciate the feedback
As for progression and such, I'd honestly go cat / healing. While tanking is in demand, you need very few tanks to progress in content. In a 25 man raid, you only need 3 or 4 tanks and most decent guilds have that covered easily. Healers, however, are almost always in demand in raids because you need 5-7 and they get burned out the fastest from what I've seen.
Having a dps off-spec means farming and dailies are way, way easier, plus it means if the group already has a healer you can go as dps. PuGs it's useful since you may start as dps but swap to healing when someone leaves.
this supports and reinforces my decision to go cat/resto and see where it goes from there
i appreciate it
this is something i've actually been agonizing over since i came back to wow and got dualspec, so it's nice to have a plan
i quest with balance and i really have very little downtime especially with tea, and my gear isn't even that fantastic, mostly blues, some greens, some 70 epics
Innervate really speeds things up and you can get a glyph which further increases innervate, although you probably won't need it
I regularly get 6k+ starfire crits and 4.5k+ wrath crits at level 76, although noncrit damage isn't stellar. You can solo almost anything though with entangling roots, which is nice. I occasionally
solo elites that are higher level than me while waiting for a partymate
the biggest downside would be movement speed (although this is a bit balanced if you'll be prowling at all) and you don't have vanish, just shadowmeld
my opinion is go with which gear you have. if you have spell power gear, go for it
once there, I think balance becomes almost as fast as feral, if not quite as efficient. Leveling through outland I found myself using starfall, treants, and hurricane (barkskin if I thought I'd need it or remembered). If I lived through the 5-8 mobs that the starfall aggro'd, then I'd drink and burn mobs down by one's and two's until starfall and treants were off cooldown.
At 80, and with a 1 min cooldown on both starfall and treants, I just do the same thing. I can complete the Argent Tournament quest to kill 15 scourge in Icecrown in about 5 minutes or 3-4 starfall pulls.
The one thing that I ran into most often was starfall pulling too many mobs and I'd die before my damage could kill them.
After all, it's mostly your preference on which way to level. To give an idea of my gear level, I'm in mostly naxx10 and a few naxx25 pieces. My wraths crit for about 5k and starfire crits for 10k.
Discuss why I am dumb for having one of these. I think it is either Bloom or Nourish... hmmm..
(I love nourish)