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Iruka's WIP Emporium. Comic P2 roughs.

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  • srsizzysrsizzy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Hm, looking at photos, it looks like their tails aren't so grub-like, and are often pretty smooth (i.e.). I dunno if you have a different ref, or just went for a different look. But I guess the combination of a smooth tail and the vaginal shell opening would be pretty suggestive...

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    It was mostly to emphasize the softness and the naked ness. Most people really dont have a frame of reference for it, so Its more important that its visually striking than accurate, in my opinion.

    I dont like it anyway, its going to change.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    bah.
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  • sgt scruffiansgt scruffian Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I definitely prefer the look of this new shell. The lights are a great touch.

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  • Radar6590Radar6590 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Agreed, though compositionally it all feels kind of separate to me. I think it looked better when the larger hermit crab was overlapping the shell. At least a little bit. Then the small one might look too separate, so you might want to move the little heart speech bubble towards the center of the piece rather than outwards, making it one big shape.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The shell opening still just looks wrong to me, especially since you mentioned specifically wanting it to look less vagina-like.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    I think I'm going to ditch it. Its boring on a teeshirt anyway.
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  • TheBogTheBog Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    You go, Nia.

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  • FlayFlay Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    You're style is really distinct Iruka, I love it. :)

    The second of those portraits is probably my favourite. There's something clearly off with the eyes in the last one though. In fact, the whole face doesn't seem to line up.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    Yeah, I know what you mean, I'll try and make it less wonky when I color it. Sometimes I forget to fix things when I stitch features together.

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Ja, I love that second one, it's got bucketloads of charachter.

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Iruka wrote: »
    Yeah, I know what you mean, I'll try and make it less wonky when I color it. Sometimes I forget to fix things when I stitch features together.

    its fineee, its just his left side of the face becomes a little flat, and his nose is angled in the wrong direction

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    nyaou

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    Thanks loom. I can see the mistakes.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    No real adjustments here, just base colors.
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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    Continuing,
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  • PROXPROX Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    very nice! The two middle ones look like they have been the victim of domestic violence.

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  • Radar6590Radar6590 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Looking pretty nice for in progress pieces. Good use of color, they flow together really well. They remind me of Alexds1's facial portraits.

    One critique would be that I would really suggest getting some stronger facial designs. It's kind of like... you have these pretty realistic faces with really big eyes and exaggerated colors. Hard to have it both ways. If you're going for stylized, go all out (Like alexds1, for example, but obviously not the same style). Your lines are loose, which is fine, but they're weak. Like you're uncertain of where they should go. Stronger, bolder lines with more variation in line width would help.

    However, if you're going for realistic, you should really get rid of the lines, get the eyes in proportion, and use some subtler coloring. Perhaps not to that degree. Again, want to be individual, but just moving in that direction.

    Hope I'm not sounding too harsh. I really am a fan.

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    shes not going for completely realistic, I like how she makes the eyes alll big and the style she draws portraits, the blond one she likes to draw so much is my personal favorite

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  • Radar6590Radar6590 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I am aware she's not going completely realistic, which is why I suggested either doing so or getting less so. She's too much in the middle. I agree with you, though. Of the four, that girl is the best.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
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    Still stuff to do, but I decided to probably finish this.

    Oh, hell, These replies happened kinda mid posting. I appreciate the crit Radar. They are particular characters that could be more exxagerated, and over time they will be, that just isn't my goal here. Its more of a painting relaxation session, the comic they belong to will be more cartoony. I'm pretty aware that I'm in the middle, I just don't really do hyper detailed, but now and then I like to push some virtual paint around. As for subtle coloring that just isn't really my thing.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    More WIPs of course.
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  • srsizzysrsizzy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    like.

    nitpicks: not sure if the perspective on the puddle matches that on the girl lying down, and the girl is kind of flat in the stomach/abdomen.

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I think she's supposed to look mostly like a flat piece of cloth draped over the ground- which I am really digging a lot, Iruka.

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    iruka your so neat have i ever told you your neat, because your neat

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  • TheBogTheBog Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    you're*

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  • StrokerXStrokerX Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    you've got some really sweet designs here....i realy like your T-shirt stuff....do you play on Threadless?

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    Tam is right, shes supposed to be flat. The puddle isn't quite right yet.

    loom/Stroker, thanks. I've "played" on threadless and DBH, so far but I haven't been all that successful yet.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    From a distance it looks like a crested heron - not sure if that's intentional or not.

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    i love that iruka
    i'm a little biased, what with the purple hair and all, but it's really great
    you are pro at this

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  • srsizzysrsizzy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    So I was thinking about this in a graphic sense, and I've noticed when you have lots of swirly type things, they're kind of imbalanced (go back to the Midwestern design; the distribution of the design was imbalanced, which is what turned me off of it for the most part). For me the aesthetic isn't there (not intending any offense, other people might like an asymmetric aesthetic). But for me, I think graphically a design like that could have the visual "weight" be more balanced when on a teeshirt. For instance (sorry for crappy mouse draw-over):

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    [edit] or or more of a vertical balance in the design (which I'm more partial to):
    ruk.jpg

    To get more nitpicky, the whole thing is kind of right-hand biased, with most of the weight of the girl being on the right, and the whole creature as well. If you flip the girl, and move the being slightly, you get a more centrally balanced image, with the weight more evenly distributed.

    ruk.jpg

    Then again, I have a symmetry bias, and when I design I tend to be pretty anal about making things evenly balanced. The second change isn't as vital as the first one, though, because on the actual tee the distribution of empty space doesn't look as imbalanced as when the image is constrained onto a rectangle.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    I kinda like the girl flipped. I'lll add more tendrils but I tend to really dislike perfect symmetry, I kinda like whats going on in the second image so I'll consider that too.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Flipping the girl is a good call.

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    agreed.

    i wish to purchase this shirt.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    I wouldn't, because I'm a big man and big men don't wear shirts with girly things like vomiting skeletons on them.

    Draw some monster trucks, Iruka. I'd wear monster trucks.
    I'd look at this shirt though because it is super cool

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Wow, you know, I totally didn't see it as a vomiting skeleton ...

    What I saw was .. crap, how to explain. Okay.

    The "Vomit", I saw as her soul rising out of her, with an asleep skull with purple hair and headphones rising up to the skies. The purple cloak and skeleton hands, I saw as Death standing behind her, extracting the soul.

    I guess I originally didn't see the bottom of the jaw, and just thought (assumed without actually LOOKING) that the spine was more of the white vomit.

    HMM.

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  • srsizzysrsizzy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm going to say one more thing and then drop it.

    In the composition of the piece, you have a middle line going from the top of the stream, almost to the bottom, and then....you divert with a little squirt to the side, and choose not to have the girl's body lined up with that strong center line (as well, the design is made out to look like liquid, yet when it reaches the bottom the suggestion that the straight lines of liquid will continue and then don't is jarring). I'm curious if you prefer it that way, because, personally, I feel like in this strong composition that sort of divergence is incredibly distracting and is the difference between me buying the teeshirt and not buying it, and I do think I've noticed it in several of your shirt designs.

    Not to sound pretentious, but have you taken a class that went over composition? I haven't, to be frank, but I feel like your shirt designs specifically would benefit from (and I'm not sure of technical terms) having more "closed in" compositions, or in some examples, just exploring different compositions before committing to a final one. Examples: Banditette, Midwestern, and Her Dog's Aura. I haven't mentioned it until now, because I think "Well, someone else might like that aesthetic," and sometimes it's inconsequential, but I figure I'll throw in my two cents about graphic design/composition.

    Something I do like about your compositions on tees is the length of the design. A lot of tees are printed with centered/off-centered designs that are framed very small. I'm glad that you're posting on DBH, because they're a lot more bold with printing large and wrap-around designs.

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    That's all good and fine, but one of the points of making art is to try and sometimes break rules creatively as well. I find I like the asymmetry in Iruka's work.

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  • lyriumlyrium Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I don't think that having an interesting feel of balance requires symmetry.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    I have indeed taken classes for composition, I do go to school after all. I spent a pretty good deal of time in my foundation classes on composition. I wont say I'm fantastic at it, but I'm aware of its existence. Animation major, so we have different focuses, its not as high of a point as say, motion, in my curriculum. .

    I usually have four of five renditions of everything I do when planning I make an absurd amount of thumbnails. I don't scan them usually because Its not really worth the harddrive space. This shirt came more from a doodle, but I thought it deserved a different life, it was fun so why not. I Learn best through trial error and studying, which I'm doing. So I donno what to say other than I'll learn over time.

    Shes off center because her feet hanging off the right looks really dumb. I'll adjust the flow alittle but I'm going to work on it later.

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