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RockinX
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Welcome to the new Pokémon thread! Here we share opinions, trade and battle with Pokémon.
If you don't know what Pokémon are, then this thread is probably not for you! But we can help you understand what they are.
If you don't care about Pokémon, then GTFO.
Pokémon is short for ポケットモンスター or Pocket Monsters. They are creatures that are each one based on an element and are able to attack with moves from those elements. You use your own creatures to capture more and more species you find in the wild. There are 493 of them, and each one has a varying degree of usability in battle.
Tiers, much like in fighting games, will give you an idea of which of them will make it more likely to win a match, but won't necessarily guarantee your victory. For the most up-to-date tier list and probably the most reliable and most used, please refer to Smogon, which also offers examples of movesets and EV spreads that will give you an idea of what to do with yours.
If you want to be a trainer, and don't even know which version to buy, you can either get Diamond or Pearl for your battling needs, although there is a third version, Platinum (which is out now) and you might want to grab that one instead, as it features several options not available in Diamond or Pearl.
What you need to start battling:
- First of all, finish the main game first. Trying to understand and manipulate EVs and IVs before that will be a pain.
- Once you've beaten the Elite Four, the real fun* begins. First, give Individual Values or IVs a read. You will also want to know everything about breeding and Effort Values or Evs. Natures Natures should also be read.
- Now that you know some things about EVs, you can either grind at the Battle Tower for the points needed to buy the Power Items or borrow them from someone who is used to play here at G&T. These items will make EV training much easier.
- If you aren't sure what to do with your Pokés, check out Smogon for some tips that will help you choose an appropriate EV spread and moveset for your Mons.
- Check out Psypoke's EV training spots.
- Also, check out what's inside the spoiler for a better way to breed eggs (doesn't work in Platinum):
- You might want to check Chen's list of what you should consider adding to your team:
- And more importantly: Have fun! It doesn't matter if you win or lose. You must have learned something from experience, and if your newest creation wasn't as good as thought it'd be and you want to keep it boxed, don't feel discouraged. We all have trained some Pokémon that we'll never use again because it sounded better on paper than it performed in practice.
General battling rules
- Pokémon battles through Wi-fi automatically level your Pokémon to either levels 50 or 100. So you don't have to train them to level 100 yourself, saving a lot of time. In fact, it will be better if you don't level them up all the way to level 100 since you at that stage you won't be able to edit your Pokés' EVs.
-Sleep Clause: you may not put more than one of your opponent's Pokémon to sleep at a time.
-Species Clause: your team must be comprised of six different species of Pokémon.
-Suicide Clause: If both players are down to their last Pokémon, the player with the first Pokémon to hit 0 HP is the loser. In other words, using moves like Self Destruct and Explosion cause you to lose, even if it kills your opponent. However, using a move with a recoil that kill both you and your opponent is a win for you.
-No Legendary Pokémon whatsoever. This includes Wobbuffet and Garchomp.
Warnings
- Do NOT buy Pokémon Battle Revolution unless you hate yourself.
- If you use U-Turn with a Choice Banded Pokémon, and your next Pokémon also has U-Turn, it will be locked to U-Turn as well. It seems this was a glitch in DP ans was fixed in Platinum. Thanks to Ashton Dragon for the first bit of information and to InvisibleInk for the second bit.
- If your opponent Yawns you and you have a Chesto Berry, you might not want to use Rest, because at the end of that turn you will have woken up with the Chesto Berry after Resting, then you'll fall asleep again because of the Yawn.
- Don't take a bath with your Tentacool.
- Beware: The game is very addictive once you join the community. Make your time.
Sites of interest
PA's Pokémart. You should read the OP before posting there.
Marriland's team builder. It will let you know how many weaknesses your team has so you can take meassures before battling.
Serebii. Check out their Pokédex.
Metalkid's IV Calculator.
Get more Box Wallpapers for DP
Get more Box Wallpapers for Platinum
Use the post below for refering to Friend Codes of people who post in the thread and codes for battles you can watch on Platinum's GTS.
If you don't know what Pokémon are, then this thread is probably not for you! But we can help you understand what they are.
If you don't care about Pokémon, then GTFO.
Pokémon is short for ポケットモンスター or Pocket Monsters. They are creatures that are each one based on an element and are able to attack with moves from those elements. You use your own creatures to capture more and more species you find in the wild. There are 493 of them, and each one has a varying degree of usability in battle.
Tiers, much like in fighting games, will give you an idea of which of them will make it more likely to win a match, but won't necessarily guarantee your victory. For the most up-to-date tier list and probably the most reliable and most used, please refer to Smogon, which also offers examples of movesets and EV spreads that will give you an idea of what to do with yours.
If you want to be a trainer, and don't even know which version to buy, you can either get Diamond or Pearl for your battling needs, although there is a third version, Platinum (which is out now) and you might want to grab that one instead, as it features several options not available in Diamond or Pearl.
Bulbapedia wrote:List of features in Platinum (will only list functional gameplay features not in D/P)
- The Wi-Fi area has been enhanced with the Wi-Fi Square, which supports up to 20 people at a time. The new area seems to focus exclusively on mini-games, which include Rapid Wobbuffet, where players hit a Wobbuffet, and Merry Mime Jr., where players can balance Mime Jr. on a ball.
- The Poffin making has been modified with a new feature involving a Swalot-shaped machine, into which Berries can be thrown. This can be done over Wi-Fi in the new Wi-Fi Square.
- There is a new key item called the Battle Recorder (given by Looker when the player first meets him in Jubilife City), which allows players to record battles in Battle Frontier and Wi-Fi, and share the records with other players over the GTS. Battle records can be rated by other players upon viewing, and the most popular battle records are displayed for all to see. Players can also take pictures of their PC boxes and share them with other players in a similar fashion.
- The GTS has incorporated an E-mail system that allows players to be notified of completed trades.
- Notification messages are sent to the player's actual E-mail address.
- The Sinnoh starters and their evolutions are now allowed in an expanded Amity Square, making a total of 20 Pokémon allowed in the Square.
- Over local wireless, there is a new feature where the player and their friends can put their Pokémon eggs in and randomly swap.
- HM05 (Defog) is now located inside the Solaceon Ruins instead of the Pastoria Great Marsh.
- The player now receives HM04 (Strength) from Riley on Iron Island instead of in the Lost Tower.
- The player can now challenge other trainers in certain Pokémon Centers. The trainer(s) are located in front of the desk. These trainers change location every day.
- In addition to the move tutors in Diamond and Pearl, three new move tutors are added, in Snowpoint City, on Route 212 and in the Survival Area.
- The Accuracy of Hypnosis was changed back to 60.
- The surfing speed has become faster.
What you need to start battling:
- First of all, finish the main game first. Trying to understand and manipulate EVs and IVs before that will be a pain.
- Once you've beaten the Elite Four, the real fun* begins. First, give Individual Values or IVs a read. You will also want to know everything about breeding and Effort Values or Evs. Natures Natures should also be read.
- Now that you know some things about EVs, you can either grind at the Battle Tower for the points needed to buy the Power Items or borrow them from someone who is used to play here at G&T. These items will make EV training much easier.
- If you aren't sure what to do with your Pokés, check out Smogon for some tips that will help you choose an appropriate EV spread and moveset for your Mons.
- Check out Psypoke's EV training spots.
- Also, check out what's inside the spoiler for a better way to breed eggs (doesn't work in Platinum):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85zIsi2mTxc- You might want to check Chen's list of what you should consider adding to your team:
01 Rapid Spin/Magne[strike]ton[/strike]zone
02 Rock resist
[strike]03 Roar/Whirlwind[/strike]
[strike]04 Mixpert counter[/strike]
05 Gengar counter
06 Special Tank
07 Physical Tank
[strike]08 Recover Zam counter[/strike]
[strike]09 Grass Type[/strike]
10 Toxic taker
11 Will-o-Wisp taker
12 Paralysis taker
13 Sleep taker
14 Fighting resistance
15 Tyranitar counter
[strike]16 Reversal counter[/strike]
[strike]17 Sludge Bomb Tentacruel counter[/strike]
18 Water type
[strike]19 Taunt Umbreon counter[/strike]
[strike]20 Jirachi Counter[/strike]
21 Celebi Counter
22 Normal resistance (Explosion)
[strike]23 Curselax counter[/strike]
24 Gyarados+[strike]Magneton[/strike]Electivire counter
25 Salamence counter (usually Ice Beam)
26 Ghost to block Rapid Spin (only if you're using Spikes)
27 Stealth Rock user
28 Draco Meteor taker
29 Outrage taker
30 Fire resistance (Heatran, Infernape)
31 Steel resistance
32 Priority user
33 Revenge killer (usually scarfed or priority user)
34 Trick taker
- And more importantly: Have fun! It doesn't matter if you win or lose. You must have learned something from experience, and if your newest creation wasn't as good as thought it'd be and you want to keep it boxed, don't feel discouraged. We all have trained some Pokémon that we'll never use again because it sounded better on paper than it performed in practice.
General battling rules
- Pokémon battles through Wi-fi automatically level your Pokémon to either levels 50 or 100. So you don't have to train them to level 100 yourself, saving a lot of time. In fact, it will be better if you don't level them up all the way to level 100 since you at that stage you won't be able to edit your Pokés' EVs.
-Sleep Clause: you may not put more than one of your opponent's Pokémon to sleep at a time.
-Species Clause: your team must be comprised of six different species of Pokémon.
-Suicide Clause: If both players are down to their last Pokémon, the player with the first Pokémon to hit 0 HP is the loser. In other words, using moves like Self Destruct and Explosion cause you to lose, even if it kills your opponent. However, using a move with a recoil that kill both you and your opponent is a win for you.
-No Legendary Pokémon whatsoever. This includes Wobbuffet and Garchomp.
Warnings
- Do NOT buy Pokémon Battle Revolution unless you hate yourself.
- If you use U-Turn with a Choice Banded Pokémon, and your next Pokémon also has U-Turn, it will be locked to U-Turn as well. It seems this was a glitch in DP ans was fixed in Platinum. Thanks to Ashton Dragon for the first bit of information and to InvisibleInk for the second bit.
- If your opponent Yawns you and you have a Chesto Berry, you might not want to use Rest, because at the end of that turn you will have woken up with the Chesto Berry after Resting, then you'll fall asleep again because of the Yawn.
- Don't take a bath with your Tentacool.
- Beware: The game is very addictive once you join the community. Make your time.
Sites of interest
PA's Pokémart. You should read the OP before posting there.
Marriland's team builder. It will let you know how many weaknesses your team has so you can take meassures before battling.
Serebii. Check out their Pokédex.
Metalkid's IV Calculator.
Get more Box Wallpapers for DP
Get more Box Wallpapers for Platinum
Use the post below for refering to Friend Codes of people who post in the thread and codes for battles you can watch on Platinum's GTS.
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Kay (Diamond): 2277-9321-5433 -- (Platinum): 4253-9422-6181
InvisibleInk (Diamond): 1890-7641-5153 -- (Platinum): 1419 2587 1159
Kuribo's Shoe: 4726-3831-9680
Chen: 1633-1499-9731
Emerlmaster999 (Platinum): 1762-8554-8209 -- (Pearl): 5455-5864-6503
Arikado: 0645-5958-6383
Aggril (Pearl): 1418-3381-0393
troublebrewing: 3824-4455-1138
SirToasty (Diamond): 0645-2240-5346 -- (Platinum): 2836-5993-1590
krylon666 (Plat): 5198-8471-4100
Jugs (Platinum): 2965-4488-5135
Eveelution (Diamond): 1934-5192-0708 -- (Platinum): 2707-7660-6352
Rami: 1505-1815-6853
Zerokku: 3008-4195-7069
Recorded Battles:
InvisibleInk Vs. Chen (Date unknown): 93-70561-90260
HAXSTRAVAGANZA -- InvisibleInk Vs. RockinX (April 1st, 2009): 14-97385-70002
Dingus Xavier Vs RockinX (From around page 50 of this thread): 50-16768-96468
InvisibleInk Vs. Dingus Xavier (April 13, 2009): 21-91799-19989
InvisibleInk Vs. Dingus Xavier (April 14, 2009): 25-08496-80972
Rami Vs Frontier Brain (April 14, 2009): 61-84306-32793
Dingus Xavier Vs. Invisible Ink (April16, 2009)
RockinX Vs InvisibleInk (April 19, 2009): 34-16068-37321
Sixfortyfive Vs Dingus Xavier
Tournament rules:
Training a Bronzong, eh?
Well, I suppose there's a couple of other things that might want to be Sassy.
Rockin, you should put [Pokemon] at the beginning of the title instead of the end. I had trouble finding this thread.
Possibly. You'll have to wait and see :P
I caught the reference and agree with Ashton, looks better/more uniform in the front.
The Pipe Vault|Twitter|Steam|Backloggery|3DS:1332-7703-1083
It really sucks when you think you're done EV training a poke but then it turns out you somehow got the EVs wrong despite doing the same damn 21-gyarados-with-power-bracer-and-pokerus grind you always do.
Arrrrrrrrrrgh
Steam ID
Just you wait... just you wait.
3DS FC: 5343-7720-0490
:P
NNID-InvisibleInk
I probably have all of those, but the only one with good IVs is most likely the Adamant one. The rest will just get you the nature and not much else.
NNID-InvisibleInk
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Yeah, something of the sorts.
I'm thinking of updating my Wii in order to download Kirby 3 and Bit Trip Beat. That means I'll lose the ability to clone saves. It's a tough decision, but I have most TMs already cloned anyway. I still need a lot of Rock Slides, but I have 20+ of the rest of the good TMs.
Also, I keep deleting Darkrais, Mews, Celebis, Suicunes, and shiny Giratinas. If you want one before they run out (I have limited box space right now in both the Wii and the DS and I don't want to back up Ranch again to free up space), now is your chance to ask for some before I decide I want to update.
Its a shame to lose such a reliable cloning facility, but if thats what you want to do.
It reminds me, why hasn't Nintendo released the Platinum update for Pokemon Ranch in America yet?
I thought it was released in Japan pretty quickly after Platinum.
NNID-InvisibleInk
Also, before giving away the shiny Giratinas, I have to ask Zerokku, if it's ok.
I don't suppose I could bother you for a Mew and a Celebi? Is there anything you'd like for them?
Oh, oh, the Tri Attack Togepi would be nice to clone if it has Serene Grace.
it is in moonspeak.
basically, the pokegirls are all being asked questions about what is popular in their time. it makes fun of how 'old' misty is.
for example, CD->MD->MP3 and vista->XP->98
And go ahead rockin. I could care less.
The Pipe Vault|Twitter|Steam|Backloggery|3DS:1332-7703-1083
I'll try to grab any TMs of your choice since I haven't been playing very long (Unless you want a Jolly/Adamant Absol with mean look and baton pass.) As for the Togepi, I've heard that it sometimes switches abilities if it's from a Pal Park when it evolves so I'm a little unsure. It really sucks to play through again because the game is a jerk and wont let you try for better natures/IVs most of the time.
It is in there because of the sentence that preceeds it.
"If you don't know what Pokémon are, then this thread is probably not for you! But we can help you understand what they are."
The joke is that most people don't understand Japanese at all.
If you have trouble with anything, just give me tradetrash Pokés.
To my knowledge, the only Pokés that change their abilities when they evolve (and only after evolving in DP) are those Pal Parked Pokémon that got a new ability in DP that they didn't have in the third gen.
The Pipe Vault|Twitter|Steam|Backloggery|3DS:1332-7703-1083
And I have many Dittos and Synchronizers, but I don't know offhand if any of the dittos have natures that are on that list. Some of them are chilling on my Ranch, so I'd have to wait til tomorrow to check on those ones.
I'd also add my usual 'needs moar Drifloon' comment as to the OP but that Gengar pic is quite well done.
When do you want to trade?
I'm online, Zerok.
I can trade whenever, or more specifically after I figure out where I put my Pearl cart.
Oh and the OP should be edited to note that Platinum is already out.
Anything in particular you'd like for it, or anything goes?
Breeding stock with egg moves is also nice.
24/23/31/31/31/19 - HP Dragon
Think I'm gonna go with this one. Mixape so the attack will be nice. Speed and lack of HP Ice is disappointing though.
The Pipe Vault|Twitter|Steam|Backloggery|3DS:1332-7703-1083
I don't have too many breeding projects that I haven't thrown into Ranch, but-ah. I do have two decent but not-quite-making-the-cut ones.
I'm online, Aggril.
~ Nasty Plot
~ Fire Blast / Flamethrower
~ Close Combat / Vacuum Wave
~ Grass Knot
Need to decide between those moves up there. What do you guys think? I always have a hard time choosing between fire blast and flamethrower.
The Pipe Vault|Twitter|Steam|Backloggery|3DS:1332-7703-1083
Flamethrower or Fire Blast is more a personal decision- me I think a Fire Blast miss could cost your Ape dearly, so I'd go with Flamethrower. But there's times that you'd want the extra power.