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Getting Downsized - Job, Not Waist
MichaelLCIn what furnace was thy brain?ChicagoRegistered Userregular
Sorry everyone, it looks like I'm going to add to the unemployment rate. Job of 5 years, slow economy, tough market, urgle-burgle.
I didn't keep up my resume while I was there, but moved up two promotions so have a lot to add. Aside from the now pants-free days I can now enjoy, what else should I do? Are Monster.com, CarearBuilder, et al., completely worthless? Should I try to find a retail gig while I look?
I was only unemployed for about a month (living with the P's) before I got this gig, so any tips would be appreciated.
What were you doing at your last job, if you don't mind me asking? I think that'd help us point you in the right direction.
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MichaelLCIn what furnace was thy brain?ChicagoRegistered Userregular
edited April 2009
I suppose it might. I was/am a Training Project Manager.
I designed both print & on-line training materials, as well as taught classes (mostly computer systems). Until they were all laid off in February, I had several "direct reports," to whom I'd give projects. Would like to stay in training, but open to using my BS in Marketing as well.
I'm in the same line of work. Been home for a while now and am finding Training Management/L&D roles thin on the ground. But then, I'm not in the states. I'm about to go temping to keep myself occupied.
I'm not too downhearted - I've been receiving great responses from my interviews... My biggest problem is that I'm too senior for the majority of training roles that are out there. I have lots of interest for contracts (but I'm holding out for a perm role) and I actually had an informal offer, but senior management just placed a hiring freeze, literally just as they were sending me the contract. *sigh*
So roles are out there, but dont sell yourself short and go for something you wont be challenged by (I've nearly done that). Larger companies are more likely to have a formal Training function, so thats a good place to start. Just be prepared for a saturated market. Get on the phones to make yourself stand out.
When I was looking 3 years ago, Monster was completely worthless for me. All jobs on there were headhunters/temp agencies that were just recruiting numbers. I had much better luck with Craigslist actually. Every interview I went on was through Craigslist even though I was applying to things on Monster, Careerbuilder, Hotjobs and Craigslist, and I got my current job through Craigslist.
YMMV of course. But don't discount the power of Craigslist if you're near a large metropolitan area.
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MichaelLCIn what furnace was thy brain?ChicagoRegistered Userregular
I am currently in the job market(hopefully out tomorrow!). The best online resource is craigslist. Seriously. I've never had a serious reply or follow up to a job I applied for on monster. I would discount it. Stick your resume up, check for jobs there once a day.
Careerbuilder I've actually had a some luck with though. Less spam postings there it seems.
Another good idea is to write down all the major companies near you that you would like to work at and go to their websites directly and apply there.
About unempoyment - [Subject's Job Here] has given me 2 weeks notice, then I'm guessing, based on other people, will get some sort of severance.
I assume I have to wait until after the two weeks to file, then I can? What do I need to bring to the Unemployment Office?
check their website 1st.... every state is different. in NY, it can all be done online/via phone, and i had to wait 2 weeks until after being laid off to file
Are Monster.com, CarearBuilder, et al., completely worthless? Should I try to find a retail gig while I look?
I found my job on careerbuilder. You have to make yourself standout though, especially with all the unemployed surfin' the webs for jobs. Also some resume advice I got from a recruiter that helped me was to beef my resume up as much as possible. I was under the school of thought that a resume should be no more then 1 page. This recruiter said that those days are over and its typical for her to see 5 page resumes. Best of luck on the job market.
Are Monster.com, CarearBuilder, et al., completely worthless? Should I try to find a retail gig while I look?
I found my job on careerbuilder. You have to make yourself standout though, especially with all the unemployed surfin' the webs for jobs. Also some resume advice I got from a recruiter that helped me was to beef my resume up as much as possible. I was under the school of thought that a resume should be no more then 1 page. This recruiter said that those days are over and its typical for her to see 5 page resumes. Best of luck on the job market.
Put a short summary on page one, then go into detail on the remaining pages if necessary.
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There's no plan, there's no race to be run
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
It's been a few years but Monster didn't help me at all - I ended up finding my job through Careerbuilder. I've heard good things about LinkedIn for more "professional" jobs, like engineering, science, etc.
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I designed both print & on-line training materials, as well as taught classes (mostly computer systems). Until they were all laid off in February, I had several "direct reports," to whom I'd give projects. Would like to stay in training, but open to using my BS in Marketing as well.
I'm in the same line of work. Been home for a while now and am finding Training Management/L&D roles thin on the ground. But then, I'm not in the states. I'm about to go temping to keep myself occupied.
I'm not too downhearted - I've been receiving great responses from my interviews... My biggest problem is that I'm too senior for the majority of training roles that are out there. I have lots of interest for contracts (but I'm holding out for a perm role) and I actually had an informal offer, but senior management just placed a hiring freeze, literally just as they were sending me the contract. *sigh*
So roles are out there, but dont sell yourself short and go for something you wont be challenged by (I've nearly done that). Larger companies are more likely to have a formal Training function, so thats a good place to start. Just be prepared for a saturated market. Get on the phones to make yourself stand out.
Good luck!
YMMV of course. But don't discount the power of Craigslist if you're near a large metropolitan area.
Real companies are putting stuff on CL? I mean, I usually just respond to the male escort ads; didn't know companies were using it too.
I got some pretty solid responses doing that just a few months ago.
Careerbuilder I've actually had a some luck with though. Less spam postings there it seems.
Another good idea is to write down all the major companies near you that you would like to work at and go to their websites directly and apply there.
Craigslist is good, so is Indeed.com at times. DICE.com is also quite nice for people in tech-related fields.
Do not wait to file for unemployment, it takes a while to kick in.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I assume I have to wait until after the two weeks to file, then I can? What do I need to bring to the Unemployment Office?
Depends on your state I suppose.
In Minnesota, I signed up for unemployment online. I think the only thing I needed was a pay stub from my previous job.
check their website 1st.... every state is different. in NY, it can all be done online/via phone, and i had to wait 2 weeks until after being laid off to file
I found my job on careerbuilder. You have to make yourself standout though, especially with all the unemployed surfin' the webs for jobs. Also some resume advice I got from a recruiter that helped me was to beef my resume up as much as possible. I was under the school of thought that a resume should be no more then 1 page. This recruiter said that those days are over and its typical for her to see 5 page resumes. Best of luck on the job market.
Put a short summary on page one, then go into detail on the remaining pages if necessary.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.