Options

Long held misconceptions

2456724

Posts

  • Options
    Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TijcoS8qHIE

    This is the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread.

    And that reminds me of this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc

    Premier kakos on
  • Options
    Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Asiina wrote: »
    Wait what, bananas can go extinct? That is the most tragic thing I've ever heard.

    As for things we should have learned a long time ago, I have no idea where peanuts come from. Maybe I'll look that up.

    One particular variety of grown-for-consumption bananas (the one that proves that God exists because it's so perfectly designed) will go extinct. However, it should be noted that this happened once before. When Cavendish bananas go the way of the dodo, we'll create a new variety to replace them. Don't worry your little head off.

    Premier kakos on
  • Options
    Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    This american life had an episode along these lines - one of the best was regarding nielson families. A well educated, intelligent woman believed into her 20s that nielson famies were literally families named nielson, for some reason only these nielson families rated television.

    Casual Eddy on
  • Options
    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    when i was a little kid i did not understand how television ratings worked

    i assumed that TV sets essentially reported what show was being watched and when on which TVs

    this is a pretty common misconception, even amongst adults. for example, recently i was browsing a Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles fan forum and there was people actively encouraging everyone to leave every TV in their house on the show's season finale in order to boost ratings. which is hilarious and dumb, but points out that many adults don't even know how the nielsen rating system operates.

    but, when i was a kid, not only did i have this assumption about how it worked, i assumed the TV could tell who was watching it, because i would hear things like "this show is really popular with 20 year old males" or whatever and i would think how could they possibly know that unless the TV can tell?

    so as i came into adolescence and found myself interested in seeing people naked and whatnot, i found out that some channels late at night would show programs that contained nudity or sexuality

    not porn, necessarily, but R-rated movies that weren't cut for TV because they showed at 11 pm and so on.

    so when young and sexually curious me would sneak downstairs after my parents went to bed to watch R-rated movies on TV, i was afraid not only of my parents waking up and giving me shit, i was afraid the TV could tell i wasn't supposed to be watching these shows and the people at the TV stations would call my mom

    but i did it anyway! that felt pretty brazen

    then i found out from kids at school that what i thought about TV ratings and monitoring was bullshit, and felt safe watching whatever i wanted, even porn

    Pony on
  • Options
    Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    That was my understanding of tv ratings for some time pony

    Casual Eddy on
  • Options
    Cyd CycloneCyd Cyclone Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TijcoS8qHIE

    This is the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread.

    I saw this when I was an adult, and knew it wasn't real, but I desperately wanted a house hippo. Still do.

    When I was in grade school, I didn't believe my teachers that midgets were real.

    Cyd Cyclone on
  • Options
    vermiculturevermiculture Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    clearly that spider video is not real, but I thought that the effects on web building for spiders on drugs was a legit thing. am I wrong?

    vermiculture on
    steam id: vermiculture
  • Options
    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    it was only a couple years ago that i learned that peanuts are not, in fact, nuts at all

    they are legumes, in the same family as beans and peas.

    they do not grow on trees

    this shocked me when i learned it

    Pony on
  • Options
    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    clearly that spider video is not real, but I thought that the effects on web building for spiders on drugs was a legit thing. am I wrong?

    No, they have studied web formation under the effects of various drugs. The effects are interesting - webs will lose symmetry, or the spider will forget to build parts.

    AngelHedgie on
    XBL: Nox Aeternum / PSN: NoxAeternum / NN:NoxAeternum / Steam: noxaeternum
  • Options
    Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    this is a pretty common misconception, even amongst adults. for example, recently i was browsing a Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles fan forum and there was people actively encouraging everyone to leave every TV in their house on the show's season finale in order to boost ratings. which is hilarious and dumb, but points out that many adults don't even know how the nielsen rating system operates.

    This is one of my pet peeves, and really gets under my skin, since anybody should know better if they just take two fucking seconds and think about how shit works.

    Kids are excused from this hatred though.

    Bionic Monkey on
    sig_megas_armed.jpg
  • Options
    Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    it was only a couple years ago that i learned that peanuts are not, in fact, nuts at all

    they are legumes, in the same family as bears and peas.

    they do not grow on trees

    this shocked me when i learned it

    That's how I first read that line, and had quite the amusing mental image.

    Bionic Monkey on
    sig_megas_armed.jpg
  • Options
    Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    clearly that spider video is not real, but I thought that the effects on web building for spiders on drugs was a legit thing. am I wrong?

    http://www.trinity.edu/jdunn/spiderdrugs.htm

    It is indeed! And, as it turns out, the crack-cocaine spider really did think building webs was for suckas.

    Premier kakos on
  • Options
    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    There was a time when I thought Godzilla was real and rampaged through Japan occasionally. Somehow, I knew Ultraman, Gamera, and the Power Rangers were fictional, but believed in Godzilla regardless.

    TrippyJing on
    b1ehrMM.gif
  • Options
    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I remember thinking bread grew like flowers that you'd pick.

    And that AIDS was a virus.

    There are still long held misconceptions I have, because I fail to truly grasp the concept behind the universe like what shape it is, where the center is, what the hell the universe is expanding into, and that you could have more than one universe.

    Kagera on
    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
  • Options
    SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Disappointments:

    I grew up reading the Phantom as a kid, and a lot of Tarzan (Edgar Rice Burroughs). As a white boy growing up in the jungle, (I was about 6 in this story) these heroes both had the appeal and setting I was familiar with. I was convinced I could do similar things, if only I undertook rigorous training. This consisted of me starting on the first few steps of things and jumping off; stairs, slides, barrels, low branches etc.

    I knew these weren't spectacular feats, but I was being smart you see, working my way up. Within the hour I was jumping off the tops of things, low roofs, water tanks, hedges (yes hedges, totally doable) and was doing alright. And that was me just in regular kids clothes. Satisfied I was ready for the next level, I made a headband and turned a cardboard box into a set of wings that I strapped to my forearms, and turned my eyes to the small shed behind our house.

    It had a sloping corrugated roof, so where on one side, a bright young lad could move barrels and boxes and climb up onto it quite easily, the other side was ten or fifteen feet above the ground. The slope created a horizon effect; there was the roof, the edge, the sky, and my own limitless potential. I sprinted for the end and leaped, arms wide.

    One of my cutout wings snapped off, and the other just sort of flailed against my left arm. I remember looking at it, thinking that I should have spent more time on the design. Not to fear, my legs were coming into position nicely. I struck the ground in a sort of heroic ta-da, the laid back Superman cruise landing, except of course, I didn't stop at all, my legs buckled underneath me instantly and my knees were slammed into my chest, popping out both sides as the rest of my body whumped into the ground. My face was pounded into the grass so hard it stained, and little bits yellow and green were embedded into my cheekbones.

    Could there be something wrong with The Program? Impossible, i thought, The Program is sound.

    Fuck you, training montage, you lied to me!

    Sarcastro on
  • Options
    November FifthNovember Fifth Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    When I was 7-8, I thought that "balls" referred to the balls of one's toes.

    This led to an unfortunate incident in which I informed my family that I was freezing my balls off, and not understanding why my parents were upset with my choice of words.

    November Fifth on
  • Options
    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Organichu wrote: »
    I have a good one. For a long time (like, until I was 19 or 20) I didn't know where Korea was. I just sort of assumed it was down there in SE Asia with Vietnam and Cambodia and stuff.

    asia_bcopy.jpg

    The saddest part: I've been to South Korea!

    Ha ha, that's where I assumed it was too. I think it's because they show map closeups all the time on the news and those look similiar in close-up.

    FyreWulff on
  • Options
    CycloneRangerCycloneRanger Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Kagera wrote: »
    I remember thinking bread grew like flowers that you'd pick.

    And that AIDS was a virus.
    I was just about ready to sit back and watch the shitstorm this post created. Then I read it again. D'oh.
    Kagera wrote:
    There are still long held misconceptions I have, because I fail to truly grasp the concept behind the universe like what shape it is, where the center is, what the hell the universe is expanding into, and that you could have more than one universe.
    People in general have a lot of completely asinine misconceptions about various realms of scientific knowledge. In particular, evolution by natural selection and the second law of thermodynamics seem to be totally incomprehensible to about seventy percent of the population. I blame it on the repeated misuse of these principles in popular culture.

    CycloneRanger on
  • Options
    KungFuKungFu Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    My friend just recently stopped at a traffic light and saw a kid on the sidewalk rapidly pushing the crosswalk button over and over again. He yelled out of his car at the kid saying "You know, each time you push it, you turn it on then off with next push." The kid then stopped pushing and looked at his finger is astonishment and horror that he did not know if he had just turned off the crosswalk or turned it on last. My friend laughs like hell every time he thinks about that kid.

    As for me, growing up and learning the truth about Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy at a really young age, I then decided to myself that God was also another fairy tale. It all clicked in my head: Santa doesn't give presents to bad kids = God doesn't let bad people into heaven. I was an eight-year-old atheist telling other children that God didn't exist (while also telling them that Santa wasn't real either).

    I probably made some awkward conversations for other kids' parents.

    KungFu on
    Theft 4 Bread
  • Options
    DangerousDangerous Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    When I was a child I always thought that you could get electrocuted to death by talking on the phone during a thunderstorm. One day when we were discussing safety in school I raised my hand and spouted out this pearl of knowledge.

    Instead of commending me for saving them all from a painful and gruesome death, my teacher burst into laughter and told me that was the most ridiculous thing she'd ever heard. Then the rest of the class had a good laugh. I felt like such an idiot for the rest of the day. :(

    I thought I was wrong for many years, but a couple of months back I checked snopes on a whim and sure enough there have been recorded deaths caused by lightning coming through the phone line! In retrospect my teacher was a fucking idiot and I'm not sure why I ever believed her in the first place..

    Dangerous on
    sig2-2.jpg
  • Options
    Ethan SmithEthan Smith Origin name: Beart4to Arlington, VARegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I thought that WW1 happened in the 40's and WW2 happened in the 60's, and that's what the hippies were protesting.

    Until I was like 8.

    Ethan Smith on
  • Options
    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I thought that WW1 happened in the 40's and WW2 happened in the 60's, and that's what the hippies were protesting.

    Until I was like 8.

    Pffh, I know people who thought the same that were in high school.

    Kagera on
    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
  • Options
    TeeManTeeMan BrainSpoon Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dangerous wrote: »
    When I was a child I always thought that you could get electrocuted to death by talking on the phone during a thunderstorm. One day when we were discussing safety in school I raised my hand and spouted out this pearl of knowledge.

    Instead of commending me for saving them all from a painful and gruesome death, my teacher burst into laughter and told me that was the most ridiculous thing she'd ever heard. Then the rest of the class had a good laugh. I felt like such an idiot for the rest of the day. :(

    I thought I was wrong for many years, but a couple of months back I checked snopes on a whim and sure enough there have been recorded deaths caused by lightning coming through the phone line! In retrospect my teacher was a fucking idiot and I'm not sure why I ever believed her in the first place..

    Yeah I was about to chime in that there are recorded deaths caused by it, glad you figured it out for yourself.

    I guess I can toss the entire Australian culture into this thread, to finally give it a good home. Somehow we've got into our heads that sport = culture, and if we really, really like sport then that's what our culture should be made around.

    We also don't all wear wide-brimmed hats with corks in them, herding cattle in the red outback. That's just ideals conjured up by our tourism department and the-abomination-they-call-a-movie, Australia.

    Hell, even I have no idea what Australian culture, or what our national identity, is. Not anything that isn't shared by a myriad of other nations, at least.

    TeeMan on
    steam_sig.png
  • Options
    CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    TeeMan wrote: »
    Hell, even I have no idea what Australian culture, or what our national identity, is. Not anything that isn't shared by a myriad of other nations, at least.

    That's not true, you have very unique and strange words.

    Cervetus on
  • Options
    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    TeeMan wrote: »
    Dangerous wrote: »
    When I was a child I always thought that you could get electrocuted to death by talking on the phone during a thunderstorm. One day when we were discussing safety in school I raised my hand and spouted out this pearl of knowledge.

    Instead of commending me for saving them all from a painful and gruesome death, my teacher burst into laughter and told me that was the most ridiculous thing she'd ever heard. Then the rest of the class had a good laugh. I felt like such an idiot for the rest of the day. :(

    I thought I was wrong for many years, but a couple of months back I checked snopes on a whim and sure enough there have been recorded deaths caused by lightning coming through the phone line! In retrospect my teacher was a fucking idiot and I'm not sure why I ever believed her in the first place..

    Yeah I was about to chime in that there are recorded deaths caused by it, glad you figured it out for yourself.

    I guess I can toss the entire Australian culture into this thread, to finally give it a good home. Somehow we've got into our heads that sport = culture, and if we really, really like sport then that's what our culture should be made around.

    We also don't all wear wide-brimmed hats with corks in them, herding cattle in the red outback. That's just ideals conjured up by our tourism department and the-abomination-they-call-a-movie, Australia.

    Hell, even I have no idea what Australian culture, or what our national identity, is. Not anything that isn't shared by a myriad of other nations, at least.

    Shrimps
    The Barbie

    MEXICAAAANNNN!!!

    Kagera on
    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
  • Options
    Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    TeeMan wrote: »
    Hell, even I have no idea what Australian culture, or what our national identity, is. Not anything that isn't shared by a myriad of other nations, at least.

    To this day, almost my entire perception of Australia is based off of Crocodile Dundee.

    Bionic Monkey on
    sig_megas_armed.jpg
  • Options
    TeeManTeeMan BrainSpoon Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I'm actually in a rare camp of people who've actually been to the "Outback" (its where I work). Just about anyone else I can think of, who don't work in the minerals industry that is, have never been.

    Another long held misconception shattered :P


    @ Bionic Monkey, I don't thing we've promoted anything since that to make you think otherwise, not your fault.

    TeeMan on
    steam_sig.png
  • Options
    ResRes __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    I blame it on the repeated misuse of these principles in popular culture.

    Pop culture is responsible for a lot of really irritating misconceptions.

    Res on
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Options
    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    As a young kid, maybe 5 or 6, I would sneak into the lounge room to see what my parents were watching. There was some violent show about vikings or something on most of the time. I had no concept of special effects and was convinced the people actually were dying. I asked my dad why so many people would die just for a tv show.

    Prohass on
  • Options
    ResRes __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Until I was lke 6 or 7 I thought "Gunpoint" was the name of a place, which just made perfect sense in my young overextending mind, because I had lived in a town called West Point so of course X Points were towns.

    So every time I heard about someone getting robbed or kidnapped at gunpoint I'd think "Why do people continue to go there?"

    More embarassing: My step-dad, who was in the goddamned army for thirty years, was under the impression that World War II was a three-block war, with the Soviet Union on its own side, with the African front being us trying to push the Red Army out of Africa. After we beat them there and dropped the atomic bombs on Japan, they withdrew from China without a fight.

    This was his conception of World War II until, like, two years ago.

    It was quite the ordeal trying to convince him that this was not the case, because this wasn't something he wasn't sure about and was conjecturing like these terrible misconceptions typically are. He was positive about this. To him this was as obvious and common an idea as the actual war is to... Everyone.

    So when I first said that the Soviet Union was, in fact, on our side, he thought I was pulling his leg. Then he just thought I was wrong. I showed him a picture of the "big three" sitting down for a meeting, which I retrieved from the internet. At first he thought "Oh, this is where my step-son got this crazy idea, he saw a meeting where we were discussing Stalin's terms of surrender and got confused." Then I showed him the picture wherein Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin were all laughing and having a good time and he thought it must be photoshopped.

    So he got on the internet, pulled out an encyclopedia, did everything he could to try to affirm himself that he didn't have the goddamn Second World War completely wrong his whole life.

    After a few hours, he conceded.

    Before that he was super-ultra-conservative and the whole revelation really shook up his political outlook because suddenly the whole Cold War didn't make any goddamn sense to him.

    Res on
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Options
    TamTam Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Res the one about your stepdad is gold

    When I went to beach as a kid, my cousins would tell me to put on sun screen to protect my skin against ultraviolet rays. Unfortunately, I heard "ultra-violent" rays. Made perfect sense at the time: these rays are out to burn my skin, therefore they are quite violent.

    Tam on
  • Options
    theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    TeeMan wrote: »
    Dangerous wrote: »
    When I was a child I always thought that you could get electrocuted to death by talking on the phone during a thunderstorm. One day when we were discussing safety in school I raised my hand and spouted out this pearl of knowledge.

    Instead of commending me for saving them all from a painful and gruesome death, my teacher burst into laughter and told me that was the most ridiculous thing she'd ever heard. Then the rest of the class had a good laugh. I felt like such an idiot for the rest of the day. :(

    I thought I was wrong for many years, but a couple of months back I checked snopes on a whim and sure enough there have been recorded deaths caused by lightning coming through the phone line! In retrospect my teacher was a fucking idiot and I'm not sure why I ever believed her in the first place..

    Yeah I was about to chime in that there are recorded deaths caused by it, glad you figured it out for yourself.

    I guess I can toss the entire Australian culture into this thread, to finally give it a good home. Somehow we've got into our heads that sport = culture, and if we really, really like sport then that's what our culture should be made around.

    We also don't all wear wide-brimmed hats with corks in them, herding cattle in the red outback. That's just ideals conjured up by our tourism department and the-abomination-they-call-a-movie, Australia.

    Hell, even I have no idea what Australian culture, or what our national identity, is. Not anything that isn't shared by a myriad of other nations, at least.

    Well that's just it. These days we pride ourselves on our multiculturalism. That being said, fuck the Cronulla riots. That must have made us look like such a bunch of xenophobic wankers to the rest of the world.
    Kagera wrote:
    Shrimps

    NO ITS PRAWNS

    theSquid on
  • Options
    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Asiina wrote: »
    Wait what, bananas can go extinct? That is the most tragic thing I've ever heard.

    As for things we should have learned a long time ago, I have no idea where peanuts come from. Maybe I'll look that up.

    One particular variety of grown-for-consumption bananas (the one that proves that God exists because it's so perfectly designed) will go extinct. However, it should be noted that this happened once before. When Cavendish bananas go the way of the dodo, we'll create a new variety to replace them. Don't worry your little head off.

    The Cavendish bananas aren't even the original popular version, there was another, arguably better variety that had to be phased out in the 50's due to vulnerability to a fungus.

    jothki on
  • Options
    joshua1joshua1 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    theSquid wrote: »
    TeeMan wrote: »
    Dangerous wrote: »
    When I was a child I always thought that you could get electrocuted to death by talking on the phone during a thunderstorm. One day when we were discussing safety in school I raised my hand and spouted out this pearl of knowledge.

    Instead of commending me for saving them all from a painful and gruesome death, my teacher burst into laughter and told me that was the most ridiculous thing she'd ever heard. Then the rest of the class had a good laugh. I felt like such an idiot for the rest of the day. :(

    I thought I was wrong for many years, but a couple of months back I checked snopes on a whim and sure enough there have been recorded deaths caused by lightning coming through the phone line! In retrospect my teacher was a fucking idiot and I'm not sure why I ever believed her in the first place..

    Yeah I was about to chime in that there are recorded deaths caused by it, glad you figured it out for yourself.

    I guess I can toss the entire Australian culture into this thread, to finally give it a good home. Somehow we've got into our heads that sport = culture, and if we really, really like sport then that's what our culture should be made around.

    We also don't all wear wide-brimmed hats with corks in them, herding cattle in the red outback. That's just ideals conjured up by our tourism department and the-abomination-they-call-a-movie, Australia.

    Hell, even I have no idea what Australian culture, or what our national identity, is. Not anything that isn't shared by a myriad of other nations, at least.

    Well that's just it. These days we pride ourselves on our multiculturalism. That being said, fuck the Cronulla riots. That must have made us look like such a bunch of xenophobic wankers to the rest of the world.
    Kagera wrote:
    Shrimps

    NO ITS PRAWNS

    They were hardly riots though.

    joshua1 on
  • Options
    japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Res wrote: »
    I blame it on the repeated misuse of these principles in popular culture.

    Pop culture is responsible for a lot of really irritating misconceptions.

    QI does a lot of these.

    My favourite example is that the noise you think a frog makes (ribbit, ribbit) is in fact the noise made by one specific type of frog common around Hollywood. It's been used so often, and for so long, as a stock sound effect that most people think all frogs make that noise.

    japan on
  • Options
    ResRes __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    japan wrote: »
    Res wrote: »
    I blame it on the repeated misuse of these principles in popular culture.

    Pop culture is responsible for a lot of really irritating misconceptions.

    QI does a lot of these.

    My favourite example is that the noise you think a frog makes (ribbit, ribbit) is in fact the noise made by one specific type of frog common around Hollywood. It's been used so often, and for so long, as a stock sound effect that most people think all frogs make that noise.

    What? I've totally heard frogs make that sound as far away from LA as Georgia. Are you sure this isn't just something you Europeans came up with because your frogs don't know how to ribbit correctly?

    Res on
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Options
    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I used to believe in spontaneous combustion.

    Kagera on
    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
  • Options
    CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Kagera wrote: »
    I used to believe in spontaneous combustion.

    For years I lived in a twilight where I was fascinated and frightened by it. Even as I was getting older and was realizing that there's no logical mechanism for it I believed.

    Cervetus on
  • Options
    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    From an overheard and misunderstood conversation when I was younger, I thought all Dalmatians were deaf; I remember reading 101 Dalmatians and thinking, "Well, this is inaccurate."

    I then reasoned myself out of thinking that all Dalmatians were deaf, only to find that it is a trait shared by many pure-breds thanks to the inbreeding.

    So, ignorance fought twice, I guess.

    Rhesus Positive on
    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • Options
    DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Re: the south Korea thing. An Australian TV host came to America and asked people to identify North and South Korea on a map.

    Happy: They all found where it was labeled.
    Sad: He had labeled Australia as "north korea" and "south korea."

    Best quote: "It's bigger than I thought."

    Doc on
Sign In or Register to comment.