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Odd PC problem

BushiBushi Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
At random times, my PC freezes and the system speaker lets out a continuous beep until the system's restarted. The system load doesn't seem to matter, as it's happened both under heavy loads and while idling. The system's running Vista with SP 1 installed. Does anyone have any ideas what's up?

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  • Eat_FireEat_Fire Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I would probably start with memory (ram), but theres several things that can cause this.
    Do you have any parts that you can swap out?
    How long can the system run before a crash?

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  • BushiBushi Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I don't have any spare parts laying around, but everything showed up green on the hardware diagnostics.
    That's the weird thing, it's only happens once every 10-14 days.

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Sounds like a heat problem. Most computers have a warning temp and a shutdown temp. Next time it does it when you reboot, go into bios and look at your system health/temperatures panel. Check the temps on your CPU/Case/power supply. If those are fine, open the side and go about your usual business, when it starts beeping, feel the fans on the GPU to make sure they're spinning. Many video card makers now put the same sort of fail safe on their cards.

    Edit: If it only happens once every two weeks, one of your fans may not be starting up on boot. You also need to consider disabling reboot on system failure.

    Insctructions Here

    This will give you the actual failure message in the form of a disgusting blue screen from the 90's. Good news it will help you find the answer.

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  • BushiBushi Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    The system isn't rebooting as it is, it just freezes so I have to do a hard reboot. It could definitely be a heat issue though, I'll look into it.

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  • CronusCronus Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Bushi wrote: »
    The system isn't rebooting as it is, it just freezes so I have to do a hard reboot. It could definitely be a heat issue though, I'll look into it.

    I don't know your setup and since it only happens once every two weeks, but you could try removing the side of your case and seeing what that does. It will also let you keep an eye on any fans that are not spinning as they should. Many motherboards also have temperature sensors that you can get an app which will hook into and give you the real time temp of different parts of your computer, thus letting you keep an eye on it.

    Also a good thing to do if you are savvy enough inside your case for it is to reapply the thermal paste to the CPU.

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  • BushiBushi Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I'm gonna crack the case open and take a peek next time it happens, but I can't leave the side of the case off because we have cats, which would probably result in disaster. Unfortunately my mobo's a bargain basement piece, and doesn't have much in the way of a temperature sensor as far as I know.

    Edit: Speedfan is saying my core temp's at 53C, how bad is this?

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  • CronusCronus Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Bushi wrote: »
    I'm gonna crack the case open and take a peek next time it happens, but I can't leave the side of the case off because we have cats, which would probably result in disaster. Unfortunately my mobo's a bargain basement piece, and doesn't have much in the way of a temperature sensor as far as I know.

    Edit: Speedfan is saying my core temp's at 53C, how bad is this?

    That's a pretty normal temp. You generally want it below 140 F or 60 C so you are a bit high but still within tolerance. Perhaps sometimes a fan doesn't start or your CPU fan slows down and the temp goes up.

    You can try using it with the side off and putting it back on when you walk away and see what kind of temps you get and if you get any freezes.

    It may also be the GPU that is heating up. Check to make sure that fan is spinning next time your computer locks up.

    You can also try cleaning all the fans out with some compressed air. Just make sure that your computer has been off for a little while before doing that as the cold air from the can coming into contact with the hot components can break things.

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  • BushiBushi Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Will do, thanks for the input.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    it's a momory dump. i get it sometimes when i am running a lot of things at once.

    a lot being winamp, wow, aim, msn, vlc, and ventrilo

    i do this often

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  • BushiBushi Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    If that's the case, I guess I could..uh..stop running programs for weeks on end.

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  • NorthGuardNorthGuard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I've had this happen to a laptop before - it was a cracked motherboard, according to the techs (thank goodness for warranties).

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Upon further consideration this may also be a short. If your case is not grounded properly you can build up enough of a charge to short a component. This is especially true if you have metallic risers for your motherboard instead of plastic clips (which have their own issues). If you feel the back of your power supply do you ever get a shock after it's been on for a while? (not advocating you get shocked on purpose).

    Also, modems and network cards can do the same thing, as there is a small current running along the cable/phone line. I used to have a computer that would actually taze you if you left it on for more than a day and touched the back of the case.

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  • BushiBushi Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    No, no electric shocks, luckily. I've taken steps to keep the temp down inside the case, so far so good.

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