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(R) Sen. Arlen Specter is switching parties

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    kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    'Yay, we're losing a seat! We don't have to spend money on trying to retain it anymore!' Seriously?

    We didn't want that seat anyways.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    kildy wrote: »
    'Yay, we're losing a seat! We don't have to spend money on trying to retain it anymore!' Seriously?

    We didn't want that seat anyways.
    It's a stupid, smelly, socialist seat.

    We only want the good seats. The ones from Oklahoma and Texas.

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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Wonkette has a list of Freeper comments about this.

    My favorite:
    “Their dumb out of desperation. PA IS A WELFARE STATE! Their only survival at this point is to rely upon Government. It is the perfect example of what Socialism creates.”
    As opposed to ... say... Alaska?

    Or Mississippi?

    Favorite Wonkette comment:
    “Sen. Arlen Pétain, former Vichy Republican…”

    Huh? Does that mean this Teabagger thinks they’re Vichys?

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Wonkette has a list of Freeper comments about this.

    My favorite:
    “Their dumb out of desperation. PA IS A WELFARE STATE! Their only survival at this point is to rely upon Government. It is the perfect example of what Socialism creates.”
    As opposed to ... say... Alaska?

    Or Mississippi?

    And that comment is a perfect example of what conservativism does to intelligence and grammar.

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    wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Didn't they get the memo? Socialism isn't an effective pejorative anymore. The official Mindless Conservative's Generic Pejorative for Democrats is now "fascist".

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    TachTach Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Nope. It's DemocRAT Socialest Party, man.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    What does RINO mean anyway?

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    wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Republican in name only.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Republican In Name Only

    Like DINO = Democrat In Name Only

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    Wonkette has a list of Freeper comments about this.

    My favorite:
    “Their dumb out of desperation. PA IS A WELFARE STATE! Their only survival at this point is to rely upon Government. It is the perfect example of what Socialism creates.”
    As opposed to ... say... Alaska?

    Or Mississippi?

    And that comment is a perfect example of what conservativism does to intelligence and grammar.

    It would have been even funnier if it wasn't actually true. PA gets $1.08 for every $1.00 it sends to the government. Of course The South is the true Welfare region, getting $1.18 as a whole, where $1.08 is the 4th cheapest state out of the 14 of 'em. These stats always make me angry.

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    DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    KalTorak wrote: »
    What does RINO mean anyway?

    It's an empty way to deflect criticism. Conservatives like to say "Oh, he's not a real Republican like me" whenever someone on the right gets caught saying something stupid. It also allows them to maintain a schizophrenic base, where instead of acknowledging their cognitive dissonance they can just point to the other groups and say "No, it was them!"

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    Republican In Name Only

    Like DINO = Democrat In Name Only

    He's no true Scotsman, I'll tell you that much.

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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Well, I was just thinking that there are states where federal money is needed to survive. And as it happens, all but one are Red.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Delzhand wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    What does RINO mean anyway?

    It's an empty way to deflect criticism. Conservatives like to say "Oh, he's not a real Republican like me" whenever someone on the right gets caught saying something stupid. It also allows them to maintain a schizophrenic base, where instead of acknowledging their cognitive dissonance they can just point to the other groups and say "No, it was them!"

    Basically it's how the nuts have learned to reinvent the No True Scotsman argument. Rush does it all the time. If he doesn't want to argue something he just says "Oh well you're a liberal".

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Delzhand wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    What does RINO mean anyway?

    It's an empty way to deflect criticism. Conservatives like to say "Oh, he's not a real Republican like me" whenever someone on the right gets caught saying something stupid. It also allows them to maintain a schizophrenic base, where instead of acknowledging their cognitive dissonance they can just point to the other groups and say "No, it was them!"

    Basically it's how the nuts have learned to reinvent the No True Scotsman argument. Rush does it all the time. If he doesn't want to argue something he just says "Oh well you're a liberal".

    Also idiots at Kos &c. which is why I avoid the place.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So, the republicans are now the tent of libertarianism, minus the social freedoms. Wonderful.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Libretarians have always been highly selective about personal freedoms

    most of em just want guns

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It's true, Democrats absolutely hate freedoms. Especially when it comes in tent form.

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    kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    "you're shrinking the electorate for republicans, how do you respond?"

    "well bob, we've noticed everyone seems to like Freedom."

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    Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I enjoy Fox News's new picture
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    DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    kildy wrote: »
    "you're shrinking the electorate for republicans, how do you respond?"

    "well bob, we've noticed everyone seems to like Freedom."
    I remember when quotes like this were snarky comments instead of, you know, quotes.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I think the Republicans did that to themselves.

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    DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    I think the Republicans did that to themselves.
    Obviously. I was just pointing out that you can't even tell when someone's being sarcastic/exxagerating anymore.

    Because they don't have to.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    "freedom can work in all areas of life"
    Have you even looked at your social positions?

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    cnn has lost it huh? I mean, I like the idea of actually challenging people but toning it down would work to their advantage.

    this is based solely off of that clip and the one at the tea party

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    "freedom can work in all areas of life"
    Have you even looked at your social positions?

    Gays have the freedom to remain single, people have the freedom to not have health care, parents have the freedom to send their children to expensive private schools....

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    PantsB wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    "freedom can work in all areas of life"
    Have you even looked at your social positions?

    Gays have the freedom to remain single, people have the freedom to not have health care, parents have the freedom to send their children to expensive private schools....

    Parents have the right to force their children to be of a particular religion.

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    tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    kildy wrote: »
    "you're shrinking the electorate for republicans, how do you respond?"

    "well bob, we've noticed everyone seems to like Freedom."

    And thats why the republicans plan to bring you the freedom to starve in the streets. Everyone loves freedom :)

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    kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    PantsB wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    "freedom can work in all areas of life"
    Have you even looked at your social positions?

    Gays have the freedom to remain single, people have the freedom to not have health care, parents have the freedom to send their children to expensive private schools....

    Hey, HEY. You're free to be gay.

    You just can't have sex. Because that would be a sin without being married. And you can't get married, because it would lessen the meaning of the thing I did.

    Now shut up and be all gay in airport bathrooms like the GOP has the common decency to do.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Roosevelt's Four Freedoms:
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    Guess what the Republican's four freedoms would be?

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    DHSDHS Chase lizards.. ...bark at donkeys..Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    moniker wrote: »
    Delzhand wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    What does RINO mean anyway?

    It's an empty way to deflect criticism. Conservatives like to say "Oh, he's not a real Republican like me" whenever someone on the right gets caught saying something stupid. It also allows them to maintain a schizophrenic base, where instead of acknowledging their cognitive dissonance they can just point to the other groups and say "No, it was them!"

    Basically it's how the nuts have learned to reinvent the No True Scotsman argument. Rush does it all the time. If he doesn't want to argue something he just says "Oh well you're a liberal".

    Also idiots at Kos &c. which is why I avoid the place.

    One of my favorite logical fallacies. "No True Scotsman", which is of course, a cornerstone of American Politics, right up there with the Straw Man, the Non Sequitor, and straight up Bullshitting.

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    psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    DHS wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Delzhand wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    What does RINO mean anyway?

    It's an empty way to deflect criticism. Conservatives like to say "Oh, he's not a real Republican like me" whenever someone on the right gets caught saying something stupid. It also allows them to maintain a schizophrenic base, where instead of acknowledging their cognitive dissonance they can just point to the other groups and say "No, it was them!"

    Basically it's how the nuts have learned to reinvent the No True Scotsman argument. Rush does it all the time. If he doesn't want to argue something he just says "Oh well you're a liberal".

    Also idiots at Kos &c. which is why I avoid the place.

    One of my favorite logical fallacies. "No True Scotsman", which is of course, a cornerstone of American Politics, right up there with the Straw Man, the Non Sequitor, and straight up Bullshitting.

    Oddly enough, I find straight up BS'ing the most tolerable, at least it leads to the funny haha at times.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    STEELE: Look, you can tweak my nose and you can step on my toes and you can pull my hair. At some point enough is going to be enough. ... Sen. Cornyn went out on the line for this man. For the senator to effectively flip the bird back to Sen. Cornyn and the Republican Senate leadership -- a team that has stood by him, who went to the bat for him in 2004 -- to save his hide, to me is not only disrespectful, but it's just downright rude. I'm sure his mama didn't raise him this way, and it's a shame that he's behaving this way today.

    BORDER: Did he give you a heads up on this?

    STEELE: No, not at all, which is another form of disrespect that I don't count. At least give me a call or give the party leadership a call and let us know this is what I'm thinking, this is where I'm going, so it can be repaired. I'm not one to be caught flat-footed about these things. You get on your toes and you respond as quickly as can you.
    So many metaphors and shit that makes him sound like a white guy trying to sound urban.
    Also in the CNN interview, Steele said that Obama was "moving towards a collectivist socialist approach to government." In the past, he has avoided using the term "socialist," raising the ire of hard right party members. Is Steele now caving to their pressure?
    Welcome to the deep end of the crazy pool, Mr. Steele.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited April 2009
    God bless the Club for Growth and all their friends.

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    BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    So many metaphors and shit that makes him sound like a white guy trying to sound urban.
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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    mcdermott wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    I love that picture. This makes me a horrible person.

    I had it as my background for a week.

    Anytime somebody can find an excuse to post it, I support them.
    Since I do a lot of forum browse at work, I have it set to not display any images, so I don't randomly have a bunch of stuff on my screen that is blatantly not IT stuff.

    I knew what image that link contained. I could see it in my minds eye. I clicked it anyway. It is that good.

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    werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    PantsB wrote: »

    On the one hand actually having interviewers who question the subject, as opposed to flash vapid smiles, is great. On the other, that didn't really merit getting riled up over. It wasn't so much insane or shocking as a clumsy pivot away from a topic he didn't want to address, the shrinking republican base and the purge of moderates, to an area he did want to talk about, how the republican party is trying to frame their ideology.

    An better response would have been "That doesn't answer the question at all. Spin your position how ever you want, how do you respond to the fact your base is continually purging anyone who deviates even slightly from political orthodoxy" or something along those lines.

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    ArdeArde Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    werehippy wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »

    On the one hand actually having interviewers who question the subject, as opposed to flash vapid smiles, is great. On the other, that didn't really merit getting riled up over. It wasn't so much insane or shocking as a clumsy pivot away from a topic he didn't want to address, the shrinking republican base and the purge of moderates, to an area he did want to talk about, how the republican party is trying to frame their ideology.

    An better response would have been "That doesn't answer the question at all. Spin your position how ever you want, how do you respond to the fact your base is continually purging anyone who deviates even slightly from political orthodoxy" or something along those lines.

    I think they all got jealous of Shep Smith's appropriate outburst.

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    ZimmydoomZimmydoom Accept no substitutes Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Bama wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    So many metaphors and shit that makes him sound like a white guy trying to sound urban.
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    This "non-threatening minority" theme they have going has provided some seriously brilliant unintentional comedy for some time now. First was Caribou Barbie, then "Robert" Jindal, and now Steele. They've given us the "ideal" Republican woman, an ABCD with some kind of creepy pervert smile disorder, and I'm still not convinced that Steele isn't just C. Thomas Howell in blackface.

    I'm hoping this trend keeps up, because next on the list is a Chinese guy with a horrid combover and/or speech impediment named John Wang, the owner of a Tex-Mex restaurant chain in Iowa who's actually just 1/4-Samoan (but his second wife grew up in San Antonio), and Larry Craig.

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