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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Do... do they zoom in on his eyes?

    What the hell?

    Glenn decided that people just don't look each other in the eye enough anymore (like they did back in the good ol' days, when you wore an onion on your belt).

    Ignore the fact that he's looking directly into the normal camera, thereby not making eye-contact with the zoomed-in camera.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited April 2009
    That's some crazy shit.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Do... do they zoom in on his eyes?

    What the hell?

    They did once to make a point (or get attention, you decide) ... it's not a regular feature of the show.

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  • werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Guys, the writer was by the Examiner, which is a conservative paper.

    I stand correctly. I actually say it linked elsewhere (Yglesias? Ambinder?) and referred to as the NY times when I read it, so I just ran with that. So it's more a "look at those crazy racist wingers" than a "didn't this paper used to be good" sort of thing.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Do... do they zoom in on his eyes?

    What the hell?

    Glenn decided that people just don't look each other in the eye enough anymore (like they did back in the good ol' days, when you wore an onion on your belt).

    Ignore the fact that he's looking directly into the normal camera, thereby not making eye-contact with the zoomed-in camera.

    Well duh, the prompter isn't on the zoomed-in camera. How do you expect him to do his show without a prompter? How will he know what to say?

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Do... do they zoom in on his eyes?

    What the hell?

    Glenn decided that people just don't look each other in the eye enough anymore (like they did back in the good ol' days, when you wore an onion on your belt).

    Ignore the fact that he's looking directly into the normal camera, thereby not making eye-contact with the zoomed-in camera.

    Well duh, the prompter isn't on the zoomed-in camera. How do you expect him to do his show without a prompter? How will he know what to say?

    Teleprompter Hussein NobamaAARGHGHGHRGHRHIBLE *POW*

    ggaahhh... sorry, my head exploded there for a minute.

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  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    I honestly don't know how to read that comment as anything but, "Black support doesn't count."

    Goddamn New York Times... the newspaper deserves to die.
    ...That was from the Washington Examiner.

    Also, the bad New York paper is the Post, the Times is the good one.
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Guys, the writer was by the Examiner, which is a conservative paper.
    Come on just because its a conservative paper doesn't mean the guy is a loon. Maybe he just had a bad day.

    *checks Wiki*
    White House correspondent for National Review magazine; columnist for The Hill; frequent guest on BloggingHeads.tv; author of The Vast Leftwing Conspiracy; formerly worked for CNN
    Oh.

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  • postinonthenetspostinonthenets Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    PantsB wrote: »

    [QUOTE=author of The Vast Leftwing Conspiracy
    Oh.[/QUOTE]

    Rofl thats hilarious.

    Also, Gawker had a "Best of 'Glenn Beck is Insane'" clip yesterday: http://gawker.com/5231807/glenn-becks-greatest-hits-his-insanity-is-very-real

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I never understood the Chavez thing. You can accept a book and READ a book without automatically liking it and/or supporting its message. Fuck that, let's be ignorant of other countries!

    I never quite understood the "it makes us look weak!" argument. They were arguing his handlers should have never let him be in the same room as Chavez.

    So...it makes us look weak to shake hands and smile, but it doesn't make us look weak to hide the President from foreign leaders who don't like us...?

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  • postinonthenetspostinonthenets Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I never understood the Chavez thing. You can accept a book and READ a book without automatically liking it and/or supporting its message. Fuck that, let's be ignorant of other countries!

    I never quite understood the "it makes us look weak!" argument. They were arguing his handlers should have never let him be in the same room as Chavez.

    So...it makes us look weak to shake hands and smile, but it doesn't make us look weak to hide the President from foreign leaders who don't like us...?

    It makes us look weak to stoop down to the level of a socialist demagogue is what I think people would argue.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I never understood the Chavez thing. You can accept a book and READ a book without automatically liking it and/or supporting its message. Fuck that, let's be ignorant of other countries!

    I never quite understood the "it makes us look weak!" argument. They were arguing his handlers should have never let him be in the same room as Chavez.

    So...it makes us look weak to shake hands and smile, but it doesn't make us look weak to hide the President from foreign leaders who don't like us...?

    Don't try to apply logic to right wing talking points. It just doesn't work.

    Also, I'd note that, contrary to what we're accused of by the dwindling cadre of right leaning people in D&D, most of us have not been repeating Democratic talking points and toeing the line just because Obama says something. I think we're generally happy with what the administration and Congress has been up to, but aren't above disappointment and disagreement just because Obama's our guy.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I never understood the Chavez thing. You can accept a book and READ a book without automatically liking it and/or supporting its message. Fuck that, let's be ignorant of other countries!

    I never quite understood the "it makes us look weak!" argument. They were arguing his handlers should have never let him be in the same room as Chavez.

    So...it makes us look weak to shake hands and smile, but it doesn't make us look weak to hide the President from foreign leaders who don't like us...?

    It makes us look weak to stoop down to the level of a socialist demagogue is what I think people would argue.

    Hmm, "stooping down" to Chavez's level by not being a d-bag to him makes us look weak, but stooping down to the terrorists' level by torturing people makes us look strong. The moral high ground is apparently good enough for other people to take when we want them to, but not for us to take when others want us to.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I never understood the Chavez thing. You can accept a book and READ a book without automatically liking it and/or supporting its message. Fuck that, let's be ignorant of other countries!

    I never quite understood the "it makes us look weak!" argument. They were arguing his handlers should have never let him be in the same room as Chavez.

    So...it makes us look weak to shake hands and smile, but it doesn't make us look weak to hide the President from foreign leaders who don't like us...?

    Don't try to apply logic to right wing talking points. It just doesn't work.

    Also, I'd note that, contrary to what we're accused of by the dwindling cadre of right leaning people in D&D, most of us have not been repeating Democratic talking points and toeing the line just because Obama says something. I think we're generally happy with what the administration and Congress has been up to, but aren't above disappointment and disagreement just because Obama's our guy.

    The idea that we can disagree with some of a politician's policies while agreeing with their progress overall fries most extreme ideologues' brains. It just doesn't compute for them.

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  • postinonthenetspostinonthenets Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I never understood the Chavez thing. You can accept a book and READ a book without automatically liking it and/or supporting its message. Fuck that, let's be ignorant of other countries!

    I never quite understood the "it makes us look weak!" argument. They were arguing his handlers should have never let him be in the same room as Chavez.

    So...it makes us look weak to shake hands and smile, but it doesn't make us look weak to hide the President from foreign leaders who don't like us...?

    It makes us look weak to stoop down to the level of a socialist demagogue is what I think people would argue.

    Hmm, "stooping down" to Chavez's level by not being a d-bag to him makes us look weak, but stooping down to the terrorists' level by torturing people makes us look strong. The moral high ground is apparently good enough for other people to take when we want them to, but not for us to take when others want us to.

    Oh I agree its fucked.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    Guys, President Obama isn't really all that popular.
    "On his 100th day in office, Barack Obama enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult. But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." —Byron York, The Washington Examiner

    See, it's just all the black people that make him appear more popular. If we just "removed" all the black people, we'd have a real President, an honest hard working Republican, in the White House again. The White House.

    The darkies only make him appear popular, but it's not like they actually count or anything, right?

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    Guys, President Obama isn't really all that popular.
    "On his 100th day in office, Barack Obama enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult. But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." —Byron York, The Washington Examiner

    See, it's just all the black people that make him appear more popular. If we just "removed" all the black people, we'd have a real President, an honest hard working Republican, in the White House again. The White House.

    The darkies only make him appear popular, but it's not like they actually count or anything, right?

    No, they count. But only three-fifths.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    Guys, President Obama isn't really all that popular.
    "On his 100th day in office, Barack Obama enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult. But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are." —Byron York, The Washington Examiner

    See, it's just all the black people that make him appear more popular. If we just "removed" all the black people, we'd have a real President, an honest hard working Republican, in the White House again. The White House.

    The darkies only make him appear popular, but it's not like they actually count or anything, right?

    I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and think that he was talking about outliers, but the wording just doesn't support it.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I honestly don't know how to read that comment as anything but, "Black support doesn't count."

    Yeah, that's messed up. Even slaves counted as 3/5 of a person.

    EDIT: Damn. Syphon beat me to it.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Yeah, there's really no way around that phrasing. Clearly the only opinions that matter are by those that agree with him and/or are posited by whites.

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  • kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So in an attempt to salvage the thread, my complaints are mostly cabinet picks who didn't actually get vetted right, and the DoJ not being a lot more public about it's internal corrections to fix the shit that was put in place the last few years.

    I'm pleased with the torture response path he's taking, even if I disagree with him that a panel is a bad idea, I understand it and I'm pleased he's not trying to obstruct it, just giving his two cents and letting the AG do as he pleases.

    I've been pleased with the bipartisanship he's been displaying. Do not mistake the failure of bipartisan action to mean someone isn't being bipartisan. He's extending the olive branch and asking people to meet him half way. That's bipartisan. Doing more would be "switching teams" or "surrendering" in order to appear bipartisan. The olive branch has been out, the other side has simply pegged all their hopes and dreams on Obama failing, and have proceeded to try and undermine him as much as possible to make that happen.

    Thus far? I'm pretty happy. I didn't expect to elect the second coming of Christ, so my expectations are set reasonably for a freaking President, I believe.

    My report card for the news? F-. Seriously? We're rating Michelle now? Fuck off.

    edit: and why does every nutcase ignore that the right wing terrorism doc landed a month after the left wing terrorism doc, and both were commissioned by Bush appointees before the elections. They have dick all to do with Obama, and are a good thing in general. If you're going to be concerned about domestic terrorism, don't pretend they're all going to be islamic brown guys living down the street. It's people who are just fucking unhinged, more likely.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Selective perception of reality.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    didn't he sign more legislation in ten days than our last president did in eight years, or something?

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  • Ethan SmithEthan Smith Origin name: Beart4to Arlington, VARegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Obama has been presiding more like a college professor than a career politician. He's been taking the people he considers the experts (Geithner, Clinton), without really entirely considering their loyalty. He's been giving other ideas a degree of thought before making action. He's been doing non retarded shit, which is a step up.

    All in all I love this presidency and it's been precisely what I expected it to be. If it's any different for you than you weren't paying any fucking attention.

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  • Metal Gear Solid 2 DemoMetal Gear Solid 2 Demo Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Kildy briefly mentioned it, but I think Obama is setting up for long term solutions to the problems the country has. Wars, diplomatic relations, economic, etc, but because the news media in this country is so fucked up and on such a short string, it almost appears like he's doing bad or doing nothing at all, but when you actually sit down and look at it, there's a lot going on and a lot of it is positive.

    Though seriously, not checking the tax backgrounds of your staff is like "Man, wut?"

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Again, I was under the impression that the mini-scandals regarding tax payment came as a result of the vetting process, not in spite of it.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    On the scale of things a cabinet member could be guilty of, "didn't pay x amount of taxes" leans towards "whoop-de-doo." They're saints compared to the last batch.

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  • bebarcebebarce Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Again, I was under the impression that the mini-scandals regarding tax payment came as a result of the vetting process, not in spite of it.

    Exactly. He actually expanded the vetting process.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »
    You're complaining about his administration's transparency about a paragraph after you've complained about him revealing stuff that the government has done?/quote]
    It's from a post written by Obs. He craves cognitive dissonance like the rest of us crave air. You don't want to kill Obs, do you? Let the man have his air!

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    widowson wrote: »
    What ever happened to dissent being the highest form of patriotism?
    Nothing, except a lot of the people who are currently spouting that are the same ones who spent the last two terms telling us that it was unpatriotic to disagree with the president.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Kildy briefly mentioned it, but I think Obama is setting up for long term solutions to the problems the country has. Wars, diplomatic relations, economic, etc, but because the news media in this country is so fucked up and on such a short string, it almost appears like he's doing bad or doing nothing at all, but when you actually sit down and look at it, there's a lot going on and a lot of it is positive.

    Though seriously, not checking the tax backgrounds of your staff is like "Man, wut?"
    I'm guessing that those sorts of tax problems are relatively normal in the House and Senate, and they were only revealed when Obama vetted them. Bush's vetting took the shape of personal loyalty, Obama's was probably much more extensive.

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    widowson wrote: »
    What ever happened to dissent being the highest form of patriotism?
    Nothing, except a lot of the people who are currently spouting that are the same ones who spent the last two terms telling us that it was unpatriotic to disagree with the president.

    Thank god for youtube.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited April 2009

    What the Hell was the context of the "addicting this country to heroin" comment? Because that's just wacky and delusional and what the hell was the guy on to say such crap?

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2009

    What the Hell was the context of the "addicting this country to heroin" comment? Because that's just wacky and delusional and what the hell was the guy on to say such crap?
    Black Betty?

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    bebarce wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure Jim Norton was being humorous. Unless somethings changed since he went off terrestrial radio, he had always seemed level headed when it came to Obama.
    Yeah I'm thinkin the Comedians were more of a "Colbert" style hyperbole.

    That Fox News missed. Of course.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    widowson wrote: »
    What ever happened to dissent being the highest form of patriotism?
    Nothing, except a lot of the people who are currently spouting that are the same ones who spent the last two terms telling us that it was unpatriotic to disagree with the president.

    Thank god for youtube.
    In terms of forcing people to think about what they say, and be able to intellectually defend their current stance, I long for the day when political debates include teams of waiting dataminers, ready to bring up youtube at a moment's notice to directly contradict someone with their own statements.

    "Roll 212!"

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    That foxnews thing gave me a headache

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  • 101101 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    That foxnews thing gave me a headache

    I almost clicked, but valued my metal health too much.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I read xwalks 100 days thread

    I think I'm suffering from a cerebral hemorrhage of some kind now

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Did anyone check out the flickr page for the white house? Has a ton of pictures from the first 100 days.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse

    Avoid the comments as usual. So many haters.

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