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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Oh, and the first time I tried to run a Source game, the screen started to dim for like a split second, and then it locked up. After killing the process in Task Manager, I got a UAC message asking me if I wanted to let HL2.exe run.

    I disabled UAC and everything was fine.

    Anybody else have problems with UAC and Source?

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  • NailbunnyPDNailbunnyPD Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    wunderbar wrote: »
    I honestly don't think I've even used a screen saver since like, 1997. First thing I do is turn it off, and set my monitor to turn off after 20 min. screensavers might be pretty to look at, but there's no point when my monitor could just be off and not using power.

    Personally, I don't want my monitor turning off every 5 minutes (mainly because my monitor defaults to the inactive VGA connection when it wakes), and if I step away from the computer for longer than that, I don't want the brightness interfering with whatever else I may be doing, like watching TV or playing a console game.

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  • NailbunnyPDNailbunnyPD Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Feral wrote: »
    Oh, and the first time I tried to run a Source game, the screen started to dim for like a split second, and then it locked up. After killing the process in Task Manager, I got a UAC message asking me if I wanted to let HL2.exe run.

    I disabled UAC and everything was fine.

    Anybody else have problems with UAC and Source?

    No, but I haven't launched HL2 specifically. I have played L4D and TF2 plenty, though. Actually, I had UAC disabled in Vista, but haven't found a need to in 7.

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  • ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Feral wrote: »
    Oh, and the first time I tried to run a Source game, the screen started to dim for like a split second, and then it locked up. After killing the process in Task Manager, I got a UAC message asking me if I wanted to let HL2.exe run.

    I disabled UAC and everything was fine.

    Anybody else have problems with UAC and Source?

    No, but I haven't launched HL2 specifically. I have played L4D and TF2 plenty, though. Actually, I had UAC disabled in Vista, but haven't found a need to in 7.

    Out of spite, I shut it off right away on both my installs.

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  • IdolisideIdoliside Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Just been playing around with Virtual hard drives, unlike daemon tools and alcohol it virtually created a partition and stores it on a HD. Kinda useful but useless for my ISOs some which need to read a CD drive.

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  • NailbunnyPDNailbunnyPD Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Idoliside wrote: »
    Just been playing around with Virtual hard drives, unlike daemon tools and alcohol it virtually created a partition and stores it on a HD. Kinda useful but useless for my ISOs some which need to read a CD drive.

    I thought someone posted an article about using VHD's to essentially dualboot into another OS, without the virtual layer aside from the VHD. Maybe it wasn't this thread. Interesting none the less.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Idoliside wrote: »
    Just been playing around with Virtual hard drives, unlike daemon tools and alcohol it virtually created a partition and stores it on a HD. Kinda useful but useless for my ISOs some which need to read a CD drive.

    I thought someone posted an article about using VHD's to essentially dualboot into another OS, without the virtual layer aside from the VHD. Maybe it wasn't this thread. Interesting none the less.

    yea, you can dual boot straight to a VHD, but you need Enterprise or Ultimate to do that.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Feral wrote: »
    Oh, and the first time I tried to run a Source game, the screen started to dim for like a split second, and then it locked up. After killing the process in Task Manager, I got a UAC message asking me if I wanted to let HL2.exe run.

    I disabled UAC and everything was fine.

    Anybody else have problems with UAC and Source?

    No, but I haven't launched HL2 specifically. I have played L4D and TF2 plenty, though. Actually, I had UAC disabled in Vista, but haven't found a need to in 7.

    I got HL2.exe errors in both Portal and TF2 that went away when I disabled UAC.

    It might be specific to my video card, as it looked like what got hung up was the screen dimming effect.

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  • NailbunnyPDNailbunnyPD Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Feral wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Oh, and the first time I tried to run a Source game, the screen started to dim for like a split second, and then it locked up. After killing the process in Task Manager, I got a UAC message asking me if I wanted to let HL2.exe run.

    I disabled UAC and everything was fine.

    Anybody else have problems with UAC and Source?

    No, but I haven't launched HL2 specifically. I have played L4D and TF2 plenty, though. Actually, I had UAC disabled in Vista, but haven't found a need to in 7.

    I got HL2.exe errors in both Portal and TF2 that went away when I disabled UAC.

    It might be specific to my video card, as it looked like what got hung up was the screen dimming effect.

    Is your account an admin account?

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Ok, well no build can apparently be TOO easy.

    Got the DVD drive tonight, hooked it up, closed the case, and everything's peachy.

    Started a Windows 7 install. One crash during one of the reboots, but I shrugged it off. After that, the system came up fine and I started installing software. No real issues for a while. Updated my display driver (ATI Raedon 4850). Windows crashes on the restart, freezing at the starting windows screen. Came back fine after that, so I shrug it off.

    Another crash while running natural selection, never got into a game. This time, windows freezes again on restart, only this time I cant get back in at all, no matter how many times I restsart.

    I finally go into safe mode and remove the display driver, thinking that's the problem. A few of the crashes in windows have had a display driver error before the memory dump.

    Windows restarts fine this time. I reinstall the driver from ATI, and then there's another freeze on the restart.

    I want to use Windows 7, but it seems ati's drivers just aren't stable at all. Is this a known issue? Any way around it? Thanks for the help.

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  • CronusCronus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Six wrote: »
    Ok, well no build can apparently be TOO easy.

    Got the DVD drive tonight, hooked it up, closed the case, and everything's peachy.

    Started a Windows 7 install. One crash during one of the reboots, but I shrugged it off. After that, the system came up fine and I started installing software. No real issues for a while. Updated my display driver (ATI Raedon 4850). Windows crashes on the restart, freezing at the starting windows screen. Came back fine after that, so I shrug it off.

    Another crash while running natural selection, never got into a game. This time, windows freezes again on restart, only this time I cant get back in at all, no matter how many times I restsart.

    I finally go into safe mode and remove the display driver, thinking that's the problem. A few of the crashes in windows have had a display driver error before the memory dump.

    Windows restarts fine this time. I reinstall the driver from ATI, and then there's another freeze on the restart.

    I want to use Windows 7, but it seems ati's drivers just aren't stable at all. Is this a known issue? Any way around it? Thanks for the help.

    It sounds like ATI's drivers might not be ready for 7 yet. This is not a final product so AMD might just not be ready yet. Have you tried installing an older set of drivers? Perhaps it is just a problem with their latest release.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    wunderbar wrote: »
    I honestly don't think I've even used a screen saver since like, 1997. First thing I do is turn it off, and set my monitor to turn off after 20 min. screensavers might be pretty to look at, but there's no point when my monitor could just be off and not using power.

    Sorry, I just use screen save as a cover all term.

    My monitor turns it self off.

    Then it fucks up my computer.

    (I hate the powersaving settings with all my heart)

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Cronus wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    Ok, well no build can apparently be TOO easy.

    Got the DVD drive tonight, hooked it up, closed the case, and everything's peachy.

    Started a Windows 7 install. One crash during one of the reboots, but I shrugged it off. After that, the system came up fine and I started installing software. No real issues for a while. Updated my display driver (ATI Raedon 4850). Windows crashes on the restart, freezing at the starting windows screen. Came back fine after that, so I shrug it off.

    Another crash while running natural selection, never got into a game. This time, windows freezes again on restart, only this time I cant get back in at all, no matter how many times I restsart.

    I finally go into safe mode and remove the display driver, thinking that's the problem. A few of the crashes in windows have had a display driver error before the memory dump.

    Windows restarts fine this time. I reinstall the driver from ATI, and then there's another freeze on the restart.

    I want to use Windows 7, but it seems ati's drivers just aren't stable at all. Is this a known issue? Any way around it? Thanks for the help.

    It sounds like ATI's drivers might not be ready for 7 yet. This is not a final product so AMD might just not be ready yet. Have you tried installing an older set of drivers? Perhaps it is just a problem with their latest release.

    Have you tried just not loading any drivers at all? Win7 has a pretty nice default driver set. Update will match you with pretty good newer drivers as well.

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  • EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I've had good luck with 4850s in windows 7, both with the internal driver and with ATIs, provided the install is not an upgrade and the install is not onto a hard drive that already contains a windows installation. Not sure why the latter would make a difference but for me it did on several installs.

    When I installed onto a hard drive that already had windows on it, Win7 would seem to install fine, but after getting to the desktop I'd click on the start button and it'd be frozen for 10-15 seconds. I'd go into my computer and it would take even longer. As soon as I started to try and do anythining terribly intensive the machine would freeze up.

    Was your install by chance into a hard drive that already had a windows installation, Six? Or an upgrade? Beg pardon if you've stated this elsewhere in the thread.

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  • IdolisideIdoliside Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Cronus wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    Ok, well no build can apparently be TOO easy.

    Got the DVD drive tonight, hooked it up, closed the case, and everything's peachy.

    Started a Windows 7 install. One crash during one of the reboots, but I shrugged it off. After that, the system came up fine and I started installing software. No real issues for a while. Updated my display driver (ATI Raedon 4850). Windows crashes on the restart, freezing at the starting windows screen. Came back fine after that, so I shrug it off.

    Another crash while running natural selection, never got into a game. This time, windows freezes again on restart, only this time I cant get back in at all, no matter how many times I restsart.

    I finally go into safe mode and remove the display driver, thinking that's the problem. A few of the crashes in windows have had a display driver error before the memory dump.

    Windows restarts fine this time. I reinstall the driver from ATI, and then there's another freeze on the restart.

    I want to use Windows 7, but it seems ati's drivers just aren't stable at all. Is this a known issue? Any way around it? Thanks for the help.

    It sounds like ATI's drivers might not be ready for 7 yet. This is not a final product so AMD might just not be ready yet. Have you tried installing an older set of drivers? Perhaps it is just a problem with their latest release.

    Have you tried just not loading any drivers at all? Win7 has a pretty nice default driver set. Update will match you with pretty good newer drivers as well.


    I'm using ATI's beta drivers for Windows 7, using a 3870. Can't say i've had a problem with it, might be different for the 4000 series though.

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  • algorhythm3.14algorhythm3.14 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Are we allowed to talk about "leaked" builds here? (Arrrr) because 7137 and 7201 have leaked recently. 7201 is supposedly the RC2 (Release Candidate 2) (2nd shot at going to release; Go Windows 7, you can do it! /MS is silly). I'm in 7137 which is very samey (that's a word?) to 7100 (RC 1) except for some snazzy new themes packed in. Speaking of 7100, every one of you should at least go to that (Windows Media Center got a +20 performance buff).

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  • IdolisideIdoliside Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Are we allowed to talk about "leaked" builds here? (Arrrr) because 7137 and 7201 have leaked recently. 7201 is supposedly the RC2 (Release Candidate 2) (2nd shot at going to release; Go Windows 7, you can do it! /MS is silly). I'm in 7137 which is very samey (that's a word?) to 7100 (RC 1) except for some snazzy new themes packed in. Speaking of 7100, every one of you should at least go to that (Windows Media Center got a +20 performance buff).

    Talk away, anything new in them?

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  • GPIA7RGPIA7R Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Will there be a second RC release to the public?

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Ego wrote: »
    Was your install by chance into a hard drive that already had a windows installation, Six? Or an upgrade? Beg pardon if you've stated this elsewhere in the thread.

    Nope, this was on a completely clean, new drive.

    The behavior suggests some kind of overheating. It didn't happen early in the build process, but once the computer had been on for a while, it froze so soon I couldnt even get to windows. Turn it off for a while, it worked briefly before starting the freezing again.

    No artifacts, but sometimes the screen would go blank over and over and the whole machine seemed to slowly grind to a halt. I tried checking the catalyst control panel to see the gpu temp, but I couldn't even get in before it would freeze.

    I decided I didn't want to fight it, and started an XP install last night which I finished this morning. XP seems to be running fine for now, but I won't really know until I use it for more than an hour and see if the same behavior manifests itself.

    I really wanted to give w7 a shot, but I also want to be able to use my new machine :)

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  • RBachRBach Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    GPIA7R wrote: »
    Will there be a second RC release to the public?

    Not unless Microsoft has been lying about 7100 being the only RC/last public build.

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    I upgraded from XP to win7, any cool features that I might be missing?

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  • GPIA7RGPIA7R Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I was reading about some pretty amazing performance reviews with Win7 on a boot solid-state drive. I figure when the price is right on solid-state drives, that'll be my next upgrade.

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  • spookymuffinspookymuffin ( ° ʖ ° ) Puyallup WA Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I can't wait for solid state drives to cost less than a testicle.

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  • fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Dragon6860 wrote: »
    I personally like the ribbon one. Nice and swoopy :)

    I did too, until I found that Nvidia Geoforms one.

    So shiny.

    What is this of which you speak?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSWL6A6ybYs

    http://nzone.com/object/nzone_geoforms_home.html

    There ya go!

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  • IdolisideIdoliside Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I can't wait for solid state drives to cost less than a testicle.

    Yeh indeed, im starting to feel the burn of too many hard drives with mechanical failures.

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Dragon6860 wrote: »
    I personally like the ribbon one. Nice and swoopy :)

    I did too, until I found that Nvidia Geoforms one.

    So shiny.

    What is this of which you speak?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSWL6A6ybYs

    http://nzone.com/object/nzone_geoforms_home.html

    There ya go!
    So this installs as a screensaver in 7?

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  • fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Yup, I've got it (and 7) on my laptop. Only running a 9600GT but it still looks nice.

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  • NarianNarian Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Just built a new PC and went from XP on my laptop to Win7 on the PC and all I can say is: wow. :^:

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  • IdolisideIdoliside Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    This

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    I like!

    Edit, also i like the snipper, which i used to make that pic :D

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    snipper? Someone refresh my memory of how/where to use this.

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  • Dark ShroudDark Shroud Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    start > all programs > accessories

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Or just Start and type "snipping tool" - windows now comes with a proper built-in screenshot maker.

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  • PatboyXPatboyX Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    So I click on My Computer and all it does is fill up that Explorer address bar with some sort of shiny status - it is slowly filling up but it never finishes and I can't navigate to any files.
    What the hell is it doing?

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Or just Start and type "snipping tool" - windows now comes with a proper built-in screenshot maker.

    Holy shit!

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Huh, I would like if it could be a shortcut key I could hold while tracing the area.. Oh well, can't have everything.

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  • fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Or just Start and type "snipping tool" - windows now comes with a proper built-in screenshot maker.

    Holy shit!

    That is a darned funky snipping tool right there.

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  • CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    PatboyX wrote: »
    So I click on My Computer and all it does is fill up that Explorer address bar with some sort of shiny status - it is slowly filling up but it never finishes and I can't navigate to any files.
    What the hell is it doing?
    I get that a lot when I'm in the Network or if my optical drive's screwed up. It usually stops after a reboot, but that's just, ahem, "treating the symptom".

    Sorry, that was just on my list of things to say once and never say again.

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  • PatboyXPatboyX Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Cyvros wrote: »
    PatboyX wrote: »
    So I click on My Computer and all it does is fill up that Explorer address bar with some sort of shiny status - it is slowly filling up but it never finishes and I can't navigate to any files.
    What the hell is it doing?
    I get that a lot when I'm in the Network or if my optical drive's screwed up. It usually stops after a reboot, but that's just, ahem, "treating the symptom".

    Sorry, that was just on my list of things to say once and never say again.

    Yeah, I rebooted and it was fine. But I am with you on feeling unhappy with this solution. I just got the HD so I was installing a lot of non-mission critical (on my list of things to say once and never again) programs today. The problem showed itself when I was moving Plants v. Zombies from my old HD to the new one. It may have been the rotation of plugging 3 hard drives into a USB enclosure I have. It gave me some issues when trying to pull one and put in another.

    No real information but every little piece helps.

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  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Six wrote: »
    I really wanted to give w7 a shot, but I also want to be able to use my new machine :)

    I'm having this same dilemma at the moment. I just rebuilt my main computer this weekend after not being able to use it for the past two weeks or so due to some hardware fuckups that ended in me just upgrading almost everything. I figured I'd try Win7 64-bit instead of digging out my OEM XP discs and trying to get Microsoft to let me reuse the key on essentially a new machine. New build booted fine, Win7 installed just fine, all good. But now I'm having trouble getting this little Netgear USB wireless adapter to work and some Googling indicates I'm not the only one.

    The part that pisses me off is I plugged my mother's Netgear USB wireless adapter into my computer earlier today, installed its software, and it worked fine. Then I got one that was a slightly newer model and tried to install that software, and Windows can't find the device. Even though I see the little blue light on it lighting up. I finally said fuck it and tried to use the older USB adapter again, and now that one won't work either. So even though I had internet this afternoon, I don't now, and I can only assume it's some driver failure going on. Either because it's Win7 or because it's 64-bit period. I want Win7 to work but really I'm just sick of not having my computer and I want it to feel like "mine" again raither than this foreign thing I don't trust to work right. So I might be looking for my OEM XP discs after all (and hoping I'll actually be allowed to continue using that key).

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  • IdolisideIdoliside Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    riz wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    I really wanted to give w7 a shot, but I also want to be able to use my new machine :)

    I'm having this same dilemma at the moment. I just rebuilt my main computer this weekend after not being able to use it for the past two weeks or so due to some hardware fuckups that ended in me just upgrading almost everything. I figured I'd try Win7 64-bit instead of digging out my OEM XP discs and trying to get Microsoft to let me reuse the key on essentially a new machine. New build booted fine, Win7 installed just fine, all good. But now I'm having trouble getting this little Netgear USB wireless adapter to work and some Googling indicates I'm not the only one.

    The part that pisses me off is I plugged my mother's Netgear USB wireless adapter into my computer earlier today, installed its software, and it worked fine. Then I got one that was a slightly newer model and tried to install that software, and Windows can't find the device. Even though I see the little blue light on it lighting up. I finally said fuck it and tried to use the older USB adapter again, and now that one won't work either. So even though I had internet this afternoon, I don't now, and I can only assume it's some driver failure going on. Either because it's Win7 or because it's 64-bit period. I want Win7 to work but really I'm just sick of not having my computer and I want it to feel like "mine" again raither than this foreign thing I don't trust to work right. So I might be looking for my OEM XP discs after all (and hoping I'll actually be allowed to continue using that key).

    Well the dangers of using any software before release is that not all drivers will be supported. XP and Vista had the same problems, over time drivers get updated.

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