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[BLITZ ON] MEN OF WAR - Assault Squad is Out (NSF56k or Shermans)

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    travathian wrote: »
    enc0re wrote: »
    I just got MoW, but apparently it won't run under Win7x64 :(

    Back to the droll world of XP for now.

    I play MoW, purchased from Steam, on Win7 RC x64 7100. e5200, G31M-ES2L, 4GB, HD 4830.


    Just got it working, I had to get the DirectX updater to get all the .dll's I was missing.

    Just want to confirm that this does in fact work under Win7 x64, I'm ready to click the Buy Now in Steam, but the whole no 64 bit support is still bugging me.

    Seems like it might work fine.

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'm playing it under Win7 64 just fine, i didnt have to tinker with it or anything.

    Also this game is hard...really hard. And the campaign isnt that fun imo. I really want to play on multi with some PAers though cuz i can see this game being awesome fun on multi.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'm playing it under Win7 64 just fine, i didnt have to tinker with it or anything.

    Also this game is hard...really hard. And the campaign isnt that fun imo. I really want to play on multi with some PAers though cuz i can see this game being awesome fun on multi.

    Coop is the real way to play the campaign. 10 times as fun.

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  • IgelIgel Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Also, I will play multiplayer with you. Sometime that is not tonight.

    Maybe we need a steam group to organize games. Seems to work for other games.

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  • travathiantravathian Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I bought it via Steam, Win7 64bit RC, and it works fine on my i7 & Nvidia based system. I havent tried multiplayer yet, but the campaign loaded fine.

    And yes, this game is helluva hard. How do you do the campaign coop? I'd definitely appreciate some help. The graphics, destructible terrain, interactions, etc are all fabulous, but I feel as if I am missing something when it comes to the interface and controlling my units. The campaign seems to be some what of a tutorial, but the learning curve appears steep.

    The voice acting, wow, just wow. I wonder how long it will be before a mod comes out to replace it all.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    travathian wrote: »
    I bought it via Steam, Win7 64bit RC, and it works fine on my i7 & Nvidia based system. I havent tried multiplayer yet, but the campaign loaded fine.

    And yes, this game is helluva hard. How do you do the campaign coop? I'd definitely appreciate some help. The graphics, destructible terrain, interactions, etc are all fabulous, but I feel as if I am missing something when it comes to the interface and controlling my units. The campaign seems to be some what of a tutorial, but the learning curve appears steep.

    The voice acting, wow, just wow. I wonder how long it will be before a mod comes out to replace it all.

    Doing campaign coop is as simple as hosting a multiplayer match and chosing the "coop" game mode.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    In response to TekDragon's post in the CoH thread which he just loves to hate:
    TekDragon wrote: »
    Does that happen for games you join from the games list, or for the automatcher, or what?

    Your replays on Youtube on Men of War convinced me to buy the game.

    You failed to mention several very important points.

    1. The community is 90% Russian.

    2. The game makes Warcraft 3's online client look sexy because MoW has no automatch and no autopatch.

    3. Did I mention no autopatch? You have to download patches, install them to a random directory, then MANULLY COPY/PASTE files into the installation directory.

    3. Did I mention no automatch? Every game is a custom game and the Russians team stack like crazy, refusing to balance teams.

    4. AT guns are worthless against heavy tanks. 10+ shells will bounce off while the heavy tank can 1 shot the AT gun from across the map with a HE shell.

    5. Infantry are retarded when giving orders, especially involving grenades. Had a dude standing behind a sandbag throw an AT nade and.... he hit the fucking sandbag. That's bad enough when it happens in CoH, but at least in CoH it doesn't kill all my dudes. This moron knocked out 3 other guys with himself.

    1. 90% is pushing it. If you play at peak Russian times it's mostly Russian, but if you don't, it isn't. Russian people are cool. They're much better at video games than your average non-Russian, it seems. That's probably why most of the hardcore games come from Europe.

    2. Automatch is coming in a patch. As for autopatch...

    3. You should probably have bought it off of Steam. This is, like, advice for life, man.

    4. It's almost as if the developers are trying to mimic the shell and armor characteristics of real life tanks. Gasp! If you want to destroy a heavy tank, knock out its tread with your own tank or AT gun and hit it from the side or behind (especially in the engine) with a bazooka/PIAT round, an AT grenade, dynamite, a concentrated burst from a flamethrower, or a large caliber gun. Expecting your AT guns to take on every single tank from the front is just ridiculous and no soldier in World War II would ever have thought about even trying it.

    5. Direct control if you're worried about that. It's never really happened to me more than once or twice.

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  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    It's pretty much impossible searching for a Men of War thread when PA search only searches for words 4 letters or more. I also tried searching for Pershing and Tiger and didn't find the thread.

    3. I did buy it off Steam. In order to install the 1.6.4 or whatever multiplayer patch you have to download the patch, install to a random directory because it won't find the Steam directory, then copy paste the files into Steam, then use a NEW .exe to play multiplayer and pray it all works because if it doesn't the old .exe will be updated to some random broken patch number that doesn't work.

    4. That's all well and good except it's crap for game design. What you wind up seeing is people using super heavy tanks and hugging a game-wall, and spreading out some infantry around them. Your infantry aren't going to get close. Your AT guns and tanks only have one direction they can use to flank the super heavy - straight into the middle of the map. Can you guess how well it works to rush a slugger into the middle of a map? Meanwhile the massive range on the super heavies means they can hit most of the map.

    The ONLY counter is to get your own super heavy and going toe to toe. Is that realisitic? Hell yes. Is it fun? Hell no.

    Thankfully the majority of people in the game, even the Russians, understand it's an ass-hole move and they don't do it. Still, I usually find 1 out of every 3 games a teammate or an enemy who uses a wall-hugging super heavy. If it's a teammate, I'll TK him the moment someone on the other team tries a good attack which fails due to the game-wall. If it's an opponent I either quit or move to the other side of the map.

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  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Some may get the impression I don't like the game. Quite the opposite, it's just got some flaws (some major flaws on the online client, then some balance issues in-game).

    What do I love?

    I love direct control. I love direct controlling pretty much everything. I spent half a game yesterday just direct controlling an officer's binoculars so my sniper could land head shots and my partner's artillery and long range guns could find targets.

    I love the penetration and modular damage system for tanks. Even if there's some balance issues with super heavies being able to exploit the map to prevent flanking, making dedicated AT guns worthless - the system works great for every other tank class and it even works well with super heavies when the operater isn't being a douche bag.

    I love the inventory system. Even if it's got a steep learning curve, it's still nice. I like being able to resupply troops. That also means I love the ammo system - you can't just spam artillery everywhere. Every shot needs to count.

    I love the potential of the infantry AI. It's not perfect, but it's got a lot of room to grow into something amazing. The fact that units know what's in their inventory (medic kits and AT grenades) and will voluntarily use them when a situation calls for it is amazing. I'd like to see the infantry AI handle going around building corners better (that is, not get entire squads slaughtered by a single guy with an SMG) and I'd like to see grenades not bounce off the cover the guy is using so much - but it's still a solid system.

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    i've only played this game twice since i got it on sale. Ha ha ha. I liked it but i don't like playing it by myself because i am terrible. I cant even beat the first tutorial mission thing in the campaign because all my dudes always die.

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  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    i've only played this game twice since i got it on sale. Ha ha ha. I liked it but i don't like playing it by myself because i am terrible. I cant even beat the first tutorial mission thing in the campaign because all my dudes always die.

    The campaign is terrible, but it's about what you'd expect from a RTT simulator set in real world WW2. There's no Kane and his Nod army of blimps here.

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  • pedro0930pedro0930 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The automatch system (called recruitment in the game) works in the beta patch. I tried it and my mates and I found a 3v3 match in about 5 seconds (but for some reason it puts us on a 4v4 maps, but then there's only like 2 3v3 maps, so this is understandable).

    Warcraft 3 online client is great, so it's not really a good comparison I think, a bit simple, maybe, but very reliable and has some features that modern game lobby still lacks (such as automatically download custom content)

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  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    pedro0930 wrote: »
    The automatch system (called recruitment in the game) works in the beta patch. I tried it and my mates and I found a 3v3 match in about 5 seconds (but for some reason it puts us on a 4v4 maps, but then there's only like 2 3v3 maps, so this is understandable).

    Warcraft 3 online client is great, so it's not really a good comparison I think, a bit simple, maybe, but very reliable and has some features that modern game lobby still lacks (such as automatically download custom content)

    I couldn't get it to work. Got some kind of an error. I'll try again tonight with my buddy. If we can't get it to work I may ask you for a step-by-step. It's possibly user error on our part, or some kind of NAT negotiation error (thank you, Relic, for teaching me about NAT).

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  • pedro0930pedro0930 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Well, I guess I was lucky before, because now I can't really connect, either. Their match making system doesn't really have enough capacity for the players.

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  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Just played a game against 4 guys each with 600+ games vs 4 guys with under 20 games. That's a 25-1 stack.

    They didn't know each other but refused to even the teams and 2 of them even talked smack at the end.

    One good thing is that the MoW community, comprised mostly of Russians with penis envy, is making CoH's community look great.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Guys it's 5 fucking dollars on Steam! This is probably my Game of the Year and it's one of my all time favorites. Get it now!

    In other news my YouTube videos continue...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwHxn1OZHtw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UksyHvxBuTs&feature=response_watch

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzX5B3bsojw&feature=response_watch

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  • Snarkman3Snarkman3 Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    This...this looks positively amazing. I always thought it was shovelware due to the awful, awful cover art
    men-of-war-pc.jpg
    Yeah, I know, don't judge a book by it's cover. But I've learned!

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    That's why I buy all my games online. No box art.

    And really the person doing the box art is not the dozens of people who worked on the game. Heck even judging a game by its manual is dodgy because those are often done by outsiders too. Basically a game is the only way to judge a game.

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  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    How on earth is this your game of the year?

    The community is terrible, worse than Xbox Live imo, and the game play is riddled by some ridiculously stupid shit like map-edge hugging super tanks.

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  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    I mean, honestly, after watching your first video up there I remembered that the only thing I really DID enjoy about this game was your replay reviews. I remember hating you months ago for false advertising for your sweet replays and making me think the game was awesome and buying it.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    You're always wrong, though. Plus even if it does suck, it's $5. People have spent more than that on sales tax for shit they didn't need in the first place.

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  • IgelIgel Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Well, this is pretty much my favorite RTS, and I think it's awesome, but that is just my opinion on the matter. Haven't played it in a while, don't know if patches changed anything significantly.

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  • ZenitramZenitram Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Even the demo had a bunch of good moments, I sadly never picked it up though. What does the patch/mod community look like?

    And hurray for RTSs with a pause button!

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  • BeefersBeefers Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So this looks positively awesome but...

    How long does it take to find a competitive multiplayer match? and how long is the average match?

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Beefers wrote: »
    So this looks positively awesome but...

    How long does it take to find a competitive multiplayer match? and how long is the average match?

    All the videos on my YouTube channel are competitive matches. During prime time there are plenty of games, and during some of hours you can find games hosted by Russians which are fun because the Russians are good at the game.

    Zenitram, the developers are good with patches but the US publisher not so much, you can download the beta patches from their forums though. There are pretty much no outstanding bugs as far as I know. The modding community is alive and well; there are tons of missions and new units and stuff and some people are working on crazy things like a Mechwarrior mod.

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  • NailbunnyPDNailbunnyPD Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I bought the original a while back at $7.50. Is the "sequel" worth picking up?

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  • pedro0930pedro0930 Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    If by squeal you mean Red Tide, then it depends on if you enjoy the single player experience since it's pretty much just a stand alone mission pack for MoW.

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  • PrimePrime UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So this is £4, how would this be for a LAN setup? Does the game handle 6-8 Players at the same time? Keep in mind that we all like strat games. Normally wouldnt bother asking for £4 but its £4x8 i'd have to buy so want to make sure its fit for purpose.

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  • pedro0930pedro0930 Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    This game can be played 8v8 if you like...6-8 players is in fact a pretty good and typical number for a good match. Note, however, coop play only support 4 players max.

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Do i need Red tide to play multiplayer these days? I've had this game (minus red tide) sitting in my back log for a while and i've never really touched it. I played a bit and found it to be really interesting but -very- difficult.

    How is Red Tide as a game add on anyhow?

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  • Blue mapBlue map Hello darkness, my old friend. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'm pretty sure that Red Tide is a single player only affair. Can't vouch for the quality though.

    Edit: I just got the game and my god i am in so far over my head it's not even funny.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The single-player missions for this game can be horribly frustrating. The first mission teaches you the basics (the very basics), then the second mission sticks you in a hopeless defensive battle with a few light AT guns and 3 tanks (only one of which is a heavy tank) versus hundreds of German infantry and at least a couple dozen tanks. They also give you mines, but figuring out mine placement and planting them takes so long that you'll never get them in place by the time the assault starts. I beat the the mission, but it could have very, very easily gone the other way since all I had left at the end was less than a dozen infantry. The only reason I made it was because the German tanks wrecks blocked off the other tanks.

    And then the next mission? Micro-controlling one guy and doing things in a very specific order so you don't get mowed down in a split-second by a random German with a machine gun. Huge pain in the ass.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The single-player missions for this game can be horribly frustrating. The first mission teaches you the basics (the very basics), then the second mission sticks you in a hopeless defensive battle with a few light AT guns and 3 tanks (only one of which is a heavy tank) versus hundreds of German infantry and at least a couple dozen tanks. They also give you mines, but figuring out mine placement and planting them takes so long that you'll never get them in place by the time the assault starts. I beat the the mission, but it could have very, very easily gone the other way since all I had left at the end was less than a dozen infantry. The only reason I made it was because the German tanks wrecks blocked off the other tanks.

    And then the next mission? Micro-controlling one guy and doing things in a very specific order so you don't get mowed down in a split-second by a random German with a machine gun. Huge pain in the ass.

    And yet in coop it becomes amazing.

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  • Blue mapBlue map Hello darkness, my old friend. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Is there some sort of multi player guide i can read so i don't suck so bad? I'm really interested in trying it out, but i'm not so interested in dragging down other people because i don't know what i'm doing.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The tips in the OP plus the videos I made (including the intro video) are pretty good. I say this as an unbiased reporter.

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  • pedro0930pedro0930 Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Blue map wrote: »
    Is there some sort of multi player guide i can read so i don't suck so bad? I'm really interested in trying it out, but i'm not so interested in dragging down other people because i don't know what i'm doing.

    Gamereplays has some pretty good reads.
    http://www.gamereplays.org/community/-men_of_war-Section.html

    or watch TychoCelchuuu's videos indeed gives you a good idea how to play, too.

    Lastly, joining the MoW vent channel, you can find lots of games and helpful players there.
    http://www.digitalmindsoft.eu/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4538

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Feel free to add me for multiplayer goodness.

    Though i suck really bad. I'm in the process of re-installing.

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  • SepahSepah Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/Sepah/

    I tried the demo a long while ago, found it enjoyable but didn't want to shell out 30$ for it.

    But 5? Hey, why the hell not. Totally up for multiplayer.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Argh, I really want to keep playing the Soviet campaign, but I'm on the one-dude mission and I know a really stupid bum-rush-the-machine-gun one is after that. Is there a "skip the stupid missions" button?

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  • Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Got this from the Steam sale for some good coop-action. Question: If my computer runs Company of Heroes (on rather minimalistic settings), can it handle Men of War?

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