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Computer Emergency Room

SuMa.LustreSuMa.Lustre Registered User regular
Remember that plan I had, to wait until summer to get some new electronics? Yeah, well...my computer of 5.5 years' service decided to not start up today. No error messages, no error beeps, just lack of response with mouse and keyboard, and no display on the screen.

What could be wrong? Am I screwed? What should I double/triple check? Should I start thinking about my new options?

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  • KrikeeKrikee Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    You could start by trying a known-good power supply; but, if the power supply did in fact go out it could have taken some of your equipment with it.

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  • SuMa.LustreSuMa.Lustre Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    It's not the power supply, all other functions are online, most notably the fan and lights. Possibly the mobo then?

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  • KrikeeKrikee Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Try popping out the RAM and see if it starts beeping. If it doesn't beep then there is a problem with the system in the very early stages of booting up such as, dead proc, mobo shorted on the case. Inspect your mobo for capacitors that have worn out (they are leaking or have a rounded top).

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  • SuMa.LustreSuMa.Lustre Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Tried it, did beep. Unplugged power from PS to mobo, replugged. Computer works now. Confused why.

    Anyone have an idea? I'm not too much of a novice but I fail to see how that worked, or why I even did it besides sheer intuition.

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  • lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    It's not the power supply, all other functions are online, most notably the fan and lights. Possibly the mobo then?

    It's quite possible for some of the cables to get power while others don't. Don't dismiss the idea you need a new power supply just because your fans turn on.

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  • SuMa.LustreSuMa.Lustre Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    It's not the power supply, all other functions are online, most notably the fan and lights. Possibly the mobo then?

    It's quite possible for some of the cables to get power while others don't. Don't dismiss the idea you need a new power supply just because your fans turn on.

    True, true. But the fans meant it wasn't a complete wipeout, and the lights on the mobo probably meant that it was fine too.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2009
    Tried it, did beep. Unplugged power from PS to mobo, replugged. Computer works now. Confused why.

    Anyone have an idea? I'm not too much of a novice but I fail to see how that worked, or why I even did it besides sheer intuition.

    It's just one of those things. On an old box I used to use, sometimes the onboard ethernet port would just stop working. Linux would see it but it was constantly disabled.

    The only way to fix it was to unplug the mobo from the PSU and let it sit for a while. Then everything would work fine.

    Or my current computer. I upgraded the nVidia drivers, Win7 rebooted and the GRUB bootloader (which lets me choose between Windows and Linux) would just fail with an "error 18". Couldn't get into Linux or Windows. I just turned off the computer for a bit and turned it back on, booted up just fine.

    My theory is that your (and my old) mobo may be going south in some sort of way, and unplugging the PSU lets the capacitors drain and therefore clears any bad bits stuck in RAM or a chip or something.

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    It's not the power supply, all other functions are online, most notably the fan and lights. Possibly the mobo then?

    It's quite possible for some of the cables to get power while others don't. Don't dismiss the idea you need a new power supply just because your fans turn on.

    True, true. But the fans meant it wasn't a complete wipeout, and the lights on the mobo probably meant that it was fine too.

    Fans and lights mean nothing. The power supply can have enough juice to power some fans and an LED and still not be able to turn your computer on.

    I have had this happen when a PSU crapped out, so try a different one.

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  • rocka4himrocka4him Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Due to this being my first build and me being inexperienced I noticed (4 months after building my rig that the reason I can't use both my RAM sticks at the same time is NOT that they are a bad pair, but rather because I bought 2.2v RAM for 1.8V slot in my board

    All is not lost...apparently I can loosen the timings so I can run it at 1.8V... my only problem is that I have no Idea where to start. Is there a method to slowly lower the timings until I find one that works?

    My original timings are 4-4-4-12, so I tried 5-5-5-13 but it failed Memtest after 30+ minutes.... lol I don't even have an idea what those timings mean or which ones to tweak... i need help please

    Also should I try to change the voltage for the RAM opposed to loosen the timings? and how do I do that the option I see in my mobo is (+1, +2, +3, +4) ... is that just straight addition to the 1.8v of which +4 would give me 2.2v? but +3 and +4 are highlighted red.

    [EDIT] My board is the GA EP35-DS3L, and RAM Patriot extreme 2x2gig sticks DDR2 800 (4-4-4-12) @ 2.2V

    Sry for jumping around, but I have a lot I need answers for. Thanks in advance

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  • JobastionJobastion Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    It would be better long run if you can RMA and swap the ram for some honest to god 1.8v stuff. I seem to remember dire warnings from intel regarding using the 2.2 stuff in a 1.8 environment.
    I think it involved a minion of cthulhu eating your processor.

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  • clsCorwinclsCorwin Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Ok, I posted this in H/A and got nothing. Maybe you guys have better ideas.

    So, did some cleaning today. Blew out the dust, and replaced my 2 case fans, since one had seized bearings, and the other was about to follow. Well after I get the new fans in and go to power on... nothing.

    I chase my tail for a bit, and finally just give one device at a time power until I find out my culprit. Turns out its my SATA drive, which was working quite fine this morning.

    Any thoughts? My SATA drive is connected to the power supply via a standard 4 pin molex adapter, fyi.

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