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Selling Curios, Novelties and Oddities Online

Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
edited May 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm a collector of odd things and my dream, for anyone interested, is to one day open up a small shop selling a curios and other things. But, first, I think I should test the waters on the Internet. I've made a bit of money doing this on Ebay, but it's a terrible site from a seller's perspective.

So, basically, this is an open-ended question. To begin with, I'd like to know: how do I go about setting up an online business? Should I buy a domain or are there other sites that aren't ebay, Amazon or Half.com I could use? Are the things I sell too random to jusitfy owning my own domain and, if I were to buy a domain, should I hire a student from the university or a professional?

Here's a list of some things I've sold on Ebay: A badly taxidermied squirrel, a lot of 3rd edition AD&D books, a multi-faced latex bust, rare and uncommon books, vintage/retro small appliances (like a hanging toaster oven), 80s cartoon lunchboxes, original King's/Police Quest in original box, etc, etc.

Edit: To clarify, I don't think Amazon and Half are suited for the sorts of things I'm selling.

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  • oncelingonceling Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Driving traffic to your own site is going to be tough online for that kind of business. I think keyword searches on eBay for these unusual types of things are getting a lot of your business right now.

    If you had a brick and mortar store, people might go there when they wanted something unusual but with no promises about what you might have in stock any one day you'll end up as more of a novelty than a successful business in my opinion.

    If you do want to go it alone, I think you're going to need to carefully research how to drive traffic from google for the items that you have, when you have them.

    However, generally what are your problems with eBay? Just the cost?

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  • Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    onceling wrote: »
    Driving traffic to your own site is going to be tough online for that kind of business. I think keyword searches on eBay for these unusual types of things are getting a lot of your business right now.

    Yeah, that's one thing I'm afraid of. I think an actual store in the right location would have a chance. But, I'd have to find the perfect spot, and that'd mean really high rent I'd reckon.

    And, I don't like Ebay because of the costs and inconvenience of it's listing system.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    onceling wrote: »
    Driving traffic to your own site is going to be tough online for that kind of business. I think keyword searches on eBay for these unusual types of things are getting a lot of your business right now.

    Yeah, that's one thing I'm afraid of. I think an actual store in the right location would have a chance. But, I'd have to find the perfect spot, and that'd mean really high rent I'd reckon.

    And, I don't like Ebay because of the costs and inconvenience of it's listing system.

    The overhead costs of brick and mortar stores would kill you quicker than rabies. Hell, hobby stores are disappearing from our landscape, and they sell shit like Warhammer and Magic: the Gathering. There's no way you could keep doors open for "curios and other things."

    That said, I think eBay really is your best bet. I'm unsure of what it takes to get a "Store," but that would be step number one. Low-overhead and part-time. It's a site with staggering numbers of visitors, so I can't imagine that there wouldn't be a better venue for selling rare and strange items than to the entirety of the internets. You can control your time, as well. Have finals? Great, take a week off from listing.

    There's no point, after costs, of trying to get people to come to a storefront on the internet other than eBay. While you may think the terms suck, they're pretty timid compared to the costs of actually operating a full scale business. If anything, I'd create a webpage for the business that links directly to the eBay auctions. It would be relatively inexpensive and you'd avoid costs related to security, as well as a thousand other things I don't even know about. We're not even getting into a business license and advertising.

    If there were enough business you could look into opening a store. Think of it this way: if you can make some real money by selling on eBay, even if it takes time, it means there's a market for what you want to do. Honestly, I can't even imagine a better way to at least start out than a well-organized eBay Store.

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  • Bebop7Bebop7 Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2009
    There are already sites set up for community-style collections of artists and collectors. Try Etsy; it's pretty neat and well-known. I don't really know what costs are involved, but it's certainly less skeezy than ebay.

    Step 2 would be buying some ad-space on a bunch of websites... webcomics seem like an excellent customer base for this sort of thing.

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  • Monolithic_DomeMonolithic_Dome Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Maybe start up a blog that has whimsical descriptions of the stuff you are selling with links to the ebay items. With the stuff you are describing it seems like you have some "content" to offer over and above the actual things you sell.

    Like how some people go to http://woot.com for the silly product descriptions, even if they never buy anything.

    If you get good at writing and taking cool pictures of your cool stuff then it should drive up the auction price.

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  • RethiusRethius Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Hey there. I agree with the previous posters about eBay being your best bet. When it comes to weird little oddities, I think it's generally the first place people look. The trouble with going with one of eBay's lesser known competitors is that they generally don't have the amount of buyers and visibility that eBay does.

    Also I can tell you that there are some major changes in the selling structure coming soon for a casual seller. They are eliminating listing fees for those who list under 5 things per month, so if you're not doing a ton of business then you can relist anything that doesn't sell at no cost. I have heard rumors that total elimination of listing fees are in the works as well.

    As far as the inconvenience of it's listing system you'll need to be more specific, but I understand that it can be a pain in the ass.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Bebop7 wrote: »
    There are already sites set up for community-style collections of artists and collectors. Try Etsy; it's pretty neat and well-known. I don't really know what costs are involved, but it's certainly less skeezy than ebay.

    Step 2 would be buying some ad-space on a bunch of websites... webcomics seem like an excellent customer base for this sort of thing.

    Etsy is (supposed to be at least) for handmade items, ideally for things that you've actually made yourself, so I wouldn't recommend trying to list a bunch of random oddities that you're trying to sell there.

    I'll just echo the others that eBay really is your best option, despite your dislike of it. The overhead costs in creating and maintaining your own ecommerce website to sell this stuff is most likely going to be too high to be feasible, unless you're selling a lot of merchandise.

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  • Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Rethius wrote: »
    Also I can tell you that there are some major changes in the selling structure coming soon for a casual seller. They are eliminating listing fees for those who list under 5 things per month, so if you're not doing a ton of business then you can relist anything that doesn't sell at no cost. I have heard rumors that total elimination of listing fees are in the works as well.

    As far as the inconvenience of it's listing system you'll need to be more specific, but I understand that it can be a pain in the ass.

    I did not know they were changing stuff up...

    I'll give ebay another go. Hell, it might even be kinda fun to open an ebay store.

    Now I'm excited about going to the estate sale warehouse tomorrow :)

    Thanks for the advice everyone.

    Anyone live near or been to Ann Arbor? I had a question about one of the shops you may but probably didn't visit near the university that closed a few years back.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm in Ann Arbor, but I've only been here about 1.5 years, so it may have closed before I moved here. What was the shop?

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Maybe start up a blog that has whimsical descriptions of the stuff you are selling with links to the ebay items. With the stuff you are describing it seems like you have some "content" to offer over and above the actual things you sell.

    Like how some people go to http://woot.com for the silly product descriptions, even if they never buy anything.

    If you get good at writing and taking cool pictures of your cool stuff then it should drive up the auction price.
    I was actually going to suggest this, but you beat me to it! Seriously, this is a fantastic way to go about things. Use Blogger or Wordpress or something to set up a simple, stylish little blog, and update it regularly with new items. Like, set a schedule and stick to it: if a new item every day is too much work, maybe Mon-Wed-Fri. Link it in your sig everywhere you post, and people will find their way over. If you can come up with interesting things to say about the stuff you're selling, people will read your blog for entertainment value, and at least a few of them will click the link to the actual auction at the bottom. Build up a semi-regular readership, and hey, you've got yourself a virtual store.

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  • oncelingonceling Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    There are a lot of tools available that will ease your issues with the eBay listing headaches. Some are paid, some are not. If you can be more specific it seems there's a few of us here that can help out.

    If you just mean it takes ages using their Sell form to get each item set up, then don't use it. You can start with something like Turbo Lister:

    http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/turbo-lister-ov.html

    Which is actually eBay provided, and YMMV with it.

    Then there's a huge list of third parties doing listing type stuff too. Check this out:

    http://certifiedprovider.ebay.com/ns/ListingSolutions.html

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  • RethiusRethius Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Yeah, the listing fee changes are coming in mid June.

    Just to clarify, you won't have to pay a fee to list your item, but you will still need to pay a final value fee if the item sells. Also, if you go over 5 items per month they're going to charge you to list your item as well. But it will entice me to sell more on eBay as well, I'm a pretty casual seller.

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  • Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Maybe start up a blog that has whimsical descriptions of the stuff you are selling with links to the ebay items. With the stuff you are describing it seems like you have some "content" to offer over and above the actual things you sell.

    Like how some people go to http://woot.com for the silly product descriptions, even if they never buy anything.

    If you get good at writing and taking cool pictures of your cool stuff then it should drive up the auction price.
    I was actually going to suggest this, but you beat me to it! Seriously, this is a fantastic way to go about things. Use Blogger or Wordpress or something to set up a simple, stylish little blog, and update it regularly with new items. Like, set a schedule and stick to it: if a new item every day is too much work, maybe Mon-Wed-Fri. Link it in your sig everywhere you post, and people will find their way over. If you can come up with interesting things to say about the stuff you're selling, people will read your blog for entertainment value, and at least a few of them will click the link to the actual auction at the bottom. Build up a semi-regular readership, and hey, you've got yourself a virtual store.

    Yeah, starting a blog was another one of those things I thought I should probably get around to one day. Good thing I actually have something to blog about now...

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  • Tucanwarrior13Tucanwarrior13 Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Etsy lets you sell retro items you didnt make yourself. That might be a good place to check.

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  • Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Daenris wrote: »
    I'm in Ann Arbor, but I've only been here about 1.5 years, so it may have closed before I moved here. What was the shop?

    I forget the name... which is silly cuz it was called something really simple. Anyway, it was next to an Asian restaurant and across from Starbucks. This store was really what got me into collecting odd stuff when I was a teenager... it had anything you could really imagine, plus an entire back room filled with such a random and beautiful assortment of old books. Probably tens of thousands of them.

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