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How strong is Colossus?
laughterkillsme
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I've always wondered, he is supposed to be a bad-ass ... atleast for an X-men character ... but what does that translate into?
Is he like:
Venom Strong?
The Thing Strong?
Where does he rate because I don't think I've ever seen his full strength described.
Is he like:
Venom Strong?
The Thing Strong?
Where does he rate because I don't think I've ever seen his full strength described.
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Is Venom like, a pillar of strength in the MU or something??
I think Colossus is more in line with Juggernaut, Thing, Hulk... maybe not as strong as some, but definitely in their league.
How strong is the Thing? Some stuff I've read puts him pretty near the Hulk, and other stuff has him as much less powerful.
Colossus was significantly less strong than Juggernaut back in the day (Cain made mincemeat of him with his 'Sunday punch'), but could probably take him nowadays. I'd guess he's probably around the level of Ms Marvel and She-Hulk, perhaps a bit above. Less than the biggest hitters (Hulk, Thor, etc), but well above your average superstrength guy (Beast, Luke Cage).
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Thing is usally considered to be around the 85+ ton range.
If I was going to rank what you listed it would be somethings like Hulk, Thor, She-Hulk, Colossus, Thing, Ms Marvel and Beast/Cage down near the bottom somewhere. Not sure about Juggernaut anymore but I guess between Ms. Marvel and the Thing.
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Based on when Rogue absorbed her, I'd always assumed Marvel to be a lot stronger than Colosuss.
Colossus has somewhere between class 90-100 strength, which makes him stronger than Thing. Maybe only Hulk is stronger, and then only when he's very mad.
The thing with Peter is that he's reluctant to use his strength offensively in a lot of situations because he's a soft touch and he knows that he can wreck most things' shit.
Venom is like the absolute pinnacle of strength before you get into the levels where it can function as it's own superpower(i.e 20 tons and under. And by "it's own superpower" I mean someone can have just class 30 superstrength and not suck) I.e he's class 12 or some bullshit. Or did they jack him up so he's not weaker than Spidey?
And She-Hulk. She's 'bout twice as strong as the Thing(Moreso, really)
She's generally only around 60 or so tons. She can increase it by absorbing energy(Even magic). I.e if she fought Electro, she could probably hurl a goddamn supertanker at him towards the end of the fight.
Venom is stronger than Spider-Man, or at least that is how he was portrayed while still hooked up with Eddie.
Pete's gone up in strength since then. Venom used to be like 11-12 tons or something if I remember, and Spideys gone up to 15(possibly 20 after The Other, but no one is quite sure).
Edit: The compendium is probably 12-15 years old.
I agree with that completely. I love Cain good, I just want to see him with his powers back. I'm very interested in how this is going to go.
To which the bad guy says something like "Then hope it doesn't"
But anyway, character's strengths seem to be always fluctuating, depending on what the writers want to happen. Ultimate Colossus is a great example. He drags a fucking sub out of the water and sets it onto shore, stops a train, and even beats back magneto's power over him. Since Mag is always classed as a damn beast in terms of power, that's saying something.
And then, as someone previously said, falcon pokes C in the eyes and drops him to his knees. What? Come on, that's silly. The reasoning sounds kind of good with "how do you see if they're metal, hahaha". But in a previous story he had dropped down to pick up a sub. In the ocean. The pressure at those depths would surely have been more than some dude poking me in my metal eyes.
But the gist of the situation was that the writers needed the government officials to win that fight, because they were the only ones who would be able to figure out what's going on. Jean Grey would have totally flipped out (she was already freaking crazy) and since they were already on the wrong track, the writers had them lose. In reality, Colossus should have been able to take on all four of those guys and come out on top - barring any strange intervention. I don't care how badass Cap is, he can't take a metal man who can stop a speeding train with his body.
So, in conclusion, Colossus is as strong or weak as the writers need him to be. That's mostly been my experience with all characters with Super Strength. It's all relative.
*edit* I forgot Black Widow was with Cap. Still useless in that fight though.
I have always hates SS in comics. Just because you can lift 100 tons doesn't mean that if someone dropped 100 tons on you, you could catch it. I can lift 100 pounds...throw a hundred pound weight at me, I am hurt...why? Momentum.
Not to mention, stuff like stopping a train, sure you are strong enough, but all that force would just knock you away, or drive you into the ground. The Wild Cards novels handled it pretty well.
Every invulnerable person has the power to subconsciously absorb or deflect kinetic energy. Thus being able to catch a falling building, stop a train, or take a punch that shatters everything within a 100ft sphere and yet leaves both you and your clothing relatively unharmed.
It is the only possible explanation.
Ultimate Colossus' eyes don't completely turn into metal like the rest of his body when he transforms. Thus, an exploitable weak spot.
The point was that if they weren't fully metal, his eyeballs should've popped when he got the sub.
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Would you be willing to accept "strong like bull"?
The best thing about these cards is the fact the Fighting ability stat- only Wolverine and Captain America have 7s. Cable and Bishop are 6's however. 8) Because, you see, they were hardcore and edgy at the time.
Wait - Spider-Man and Beast are at the same strength level? That can't be right.
Also, Juggernaught really needs to become evil again. Way too many villians are serving big time hero roles right now. I mean come on - do guys like Juggernaught and Sabretooth really belong on an X team? I hope they avoid the predictable route of having Juggy face down his demons and becocme a good guy.
I dunno, I kinda liked the monk-ish Jug from AoA...
I really, really like Juggs as a good guy. I think where he was as a bad guy was a dead end, and he'd have to have been a moron to have kept at it.
Sabretooth, however, is not a good guy. He's been on X-teams before, but he's never redeemed or become a good guy. Trust me, he's going to be gutting civilians again in no time.
I think "strong like tractor, comrade" would be more appropriate. :P