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  • RuckRuck Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    The stupid things shouldn't be unlocked at all.

    If Valve's going to tell us exactly what the items are and everyone's going to have them in two weeks anyway, what's the point?

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Why am I being repeatedly dropped from games with the message, "server full"?

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  • GreenPowerRangerGreenPowerRanger Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Ok my thoughts on the new update.

    1. New arena maps are cool, and look so fucking sexy.
    2. New animations look good, other things like spys being able to use teleporters etc.. pretty cool
    3. Pipe line isn't as good as I hoped it would be. But still pretty cool.
    4. I don't like that I cant see invisible spys names anymore when I'm a spy.
    5. THE NEW UNLOCK SYSTEM IS FUCKING TERRIBLE. SO FUCKING BAD. ITS BASED PURELY ON RANDOM CHANCE AND NOT SKILL NOR STATS. ACHIEVEMENTS WERE SO MUCH BETTER.

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  • BearcatBearcat Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    CAPSCAPSCAPSCAPSCAPS

    You're extremely annoying to me and everyone around you. Leave.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    How does the razorback work?

    Also, Unlocks being connected to Achievements was a horrible system.

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  • proXimityproXimity Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    This is terrible. I WANT MY DAMN UNLOCKS!

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  • Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I hope all your fags who cried over having to get achievements to unlock the weapons are happy. Because this new system for unlocking is the worst thing ever.

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  • RuckRuck Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    How does the razorback work?

    Also, Unlocks being connected to Achievements was a horrible system.

    Agreed, and this is worse.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Woot, just got my first new unlock of the patch, Cloak and Dagger.

    (worth noting: I was playing medic and died immediately after I killed a spy)

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  • ArkanArkan Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Wow, so uh the ambassador is bugged and can shoot through the pre-match setup doors.

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  • LordNibblerLordNibbler Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Damn, a couple of hours and I randomly get The Force-a-nature.

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  • JONJONAUGJONJONAUG Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Ok my thoughts on the new update.

    1. New arena maps are cool, and look so fucking sexy.
    2. New animations look good, other things like spys being able to use teleporters etc.. pretty cool
    3. Pipe line isn't as good as I hoped it would be. But still pretty cool.
    4. I don't like that I cant see invisible spys names anymore when I'm a spy.
    5. THE NEW UNLOCK SYSTEM IS FUCKING TERRIBLE. SO FUCKING BAD. ITS BASED PURELY ON RANDOM CHANCE AND NOT SKILL NOR STATS. ACHIEVEMENTS WERE SO MUCH BETTER.

    Items that you will eventually receive through normal play is worse than "stab the spy in the side while he's facing north on a winter solstice"?

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I now have two Sandmen. The Hell good does that do me?

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  • RuckRuck Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    JONJONAUG wrote: »
    Ok my thoughts on the new update.

    1. New arena maps are cool, and look so fucking sexy.
    2. New animations look good, other things like spys being able to use teleporters etc.. pretty cool
    3. Pipe line isn't as good as I hoped it would be. But still pretty cool.
    4. I don't like that I cant see invisible spys names anymore when I'm a spy.
    5. THE NEW UNLOCK SYSTEM IS FUCKING TERRIBLE. SO FUCKING BAD. ITS BASED PURELY ON RANDOM CHANCE AND NOT SKILL NOR STATS. ACHIEVEMENTS WERE SO MUCH BETTER.

    Items that you will eventually receive through normal play is worse than "stab the spy in the side while he's facing north on a winter solstice"?

    Items that I will eventually receive through hours upon hours of normal play vs. items that some jackass will receive upon ten minutes of normal play = whack.

    You see the problem with the randomness.

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  • LordNibblerLordNibbler Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    They should have at least combined them so it's randomnes and achievements. I don't know why they disabled the achievements unlocking stuff.

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  • .Tripwire..Tripwire. Firman Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm pretty fine with the idea. Complaining about unlocks not being based on skill sounds remarkably like complaining about crits not being based on skill. Who cares!

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Well this system is going to be great for me because the only unlocks I have are the first 2 medic ones.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Do you have to be playing the class to get their unlocks (ie do I have to be playing scouts to get scout unlocks?) or can I get unlocks for a class while playing a different one?

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I don't have any of the medic unlocks, as well as the sniper and spy unlocks, so I'm glad I'll have a (hopefully) easier time unlocking them.

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  • Al BaronAl Baron Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Do you have to be playing the class to get their unlocks (ie do I have to be playing scouts to get scout unlocks?) or can I get unlocks for a class while playing a different one?
    Class doesn't matter. It's completely random.

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  • Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    FYI, despite Alex Wilder unlocking a weapon on Job's, any server without a working loadout screen does not support 'finding' unlockables.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Al Baron wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Do you have to be playing the class to get their unlocks (ie do I have to be playing scouts to get scout unlocks?) or can I get unlocks for a class while playing a different one?
    Class doesn't matter. It's completely random.

    Sweeeeet!

    Means I don't have to feel like a jackass playing a class my team doesn't need just because I wanted an unlock.

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  • Al BaronAl Baron Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Means I don't have to feel like a jackass playing a class my team doesn't need just because I wanted an unlock.
    Then I hope you like having duplicates happen! :b

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Quite frankly, since the weapons are alternatives to your weapons, and not upgrades (excusing the Medic), "earning" them isn't really a huge deal. And from the sounds of things, I can't imagine that you wouldn't get the weapons you wanted after a reasonable amount of time.

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  • ArkanArkan Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Do you have to be playing the class to get their unlocks (ie do I have to be playing scouts to get scout unlocks?) or can I get unlocks for a class while playing a different one?

    I'm seeing plenty of people get unlocks that have nothing to do with their class, so no

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Al Baron wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Means I don't have to feel like a jackass playing a class my team doesn't need just because I wanted an unlock.
    Then I hope you like having duplicates happen! :b

    *shrugs* Slightly annoying sure, but it lets me actually play the game instead of worry about achievements and that is fine by me.

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  • Amikron DevaliaAmikron Devalia I didn't ask for this title. Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Goose! wrote: »
    I hope all your fags who cried over having to get achievements to unlock the weapons are happy. Because this new system for unlocking is the worst thing ever.

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  • GreenPowerRangerGreenPowerRanger Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    JONJONAUG wrote: »
    Ok my thoughts on the new update.

    1. New arena maps are cool, and look so fucking sexy.
    2. New animations look good, other things like spys being able to use teleporters etc.. pretty cool
    3. Pipe line isn't as good as I hoped it would be. But still pretty cool.
    4. I don't like that I cant see invisible spys names anymore when I'm a spy.
    5. THE NEW UNLOCK SYSTEM IS FUCKING TERRIBLE. SO FUCKING BAD. ITS BASED PURELY ON RANDOM CHANCE AND NOT SKILL NOR STATS. ACHIEVEMENTS WERE SO MUCH BETTER.

    Items that you will eventually receive through normal play is worse than "stab the spy in the side while he's facing north on a winter solstice"?

    I liked the achievements being tired to unlocks. If the game was played properly, and fuck wads on the internet didn't want everything now now now then the system rewarded skill, experience, play time etc.. and so people technically worthy got the updates.

    Now with this system I have played over 200 hours as spy, since the update dropped I've got 6 achievements which on the old system means I would be well on my way to getting my 1st unlock. Which I would deserve to get.

    This system how ever. People get unlocks but don't know how or why. They get them at odd times. Not for the class they're playing and often they are duplicates of what they already have.

    I how ever having playing spy the whole time haven't got 1 drop at all. Spy/sniper wise or duplicate & it doesn't motivate me to keep playing. I'm not just fed up with the game. The new arena maps are good/fucking sexy. Pipeline could be a lot better, but isn't bad, but the fact i'm not getting anything in return for playing. sucks.

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  • RandomEngyRandomEngy Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I like the new system better than the old. I can just play the game and the weapons will come on their own time. And I don't need to play that class a ton to do it.

    But I did try playing spy some today. My first real attempt actually since they added metal = cloak. I quite enjoy it. Though the biggest problem I have is getting quick access to disguises. I can disguise to 1-4 pretty easily, but beyond that it's mostly guesswork. Are there any good scripts or keybindings that could help with this?

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  • Amikron DevaliaAmikron Devalia I didn't ask for this title. Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I just got the flare gun (my first unlock) this morning. Why do I have a feeling I will now find nothing but flare guns for the next week?

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I've done 13 of the spy achievements now, and haven't received any drop at all yet. My friend joined the game and promptly received Jarate.

    Achievement unlocks may have not been the best thing, but this is worse.

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  • Amikron DevaliaAmikron Devalia I didn't ask for this title. Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Well you weren't trying hard enough, obviously :P

    edit: Trying hard enough of course meaning flailing around randomly until you get what you want.

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I don't understand why everyone just doesn't get the new weapons anyway.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Really the only problem with the system is the RNG aspect.

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  • Al BaronAl Baron Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    You know, they could easily make the duplicates have other stats on them.

    Also, there are some screens floating around about a end-game trading period but those could easily be 'shops. Would make sense if they attach stats to weapons, though.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Bearcat wrote: »
    CAPSCAPSCAPSCAPSCAPS

    You're extremely annoying to me and everyone around you. Leave.

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  • Amikron DevaliaAmikron Devalia I didn't ask for this title. Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    "Whatcha buyin?"

    *opens coat*

    "Whatcha sellin?"

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Al Baron wrote: »
    You know, they could easily make the duplicates have other stats on them.

    Also, there are some screen floating around about a end-game trading period but those could be 'shops.

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  • GreenPowerRangerGreenPowerRanger Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Al Baron wrote: »
    You know, they could easily make the duplicates have other stats on them.

    Also, there are some screen floating around about a end-game trading period but those could easily be 'shops. Would make sense if they attach stats to weapons, though.

    link?

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  • xzzyxzzy Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I liked the milestone system, if valve would stop putting in achievements like "shoot 4 players under a full moon while three ubered scouts taunt in a killcam, each wielding a different weapon".

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