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most people here are... well I was going to say college kids but I remember khoo's once-upon-a-time statistics put the avg forum age at like 25
Yeah, but even then most people are renting*, paying off school loans, and just starting out on a fairly basic salary at that age (hello, me)
Shit, this thread reminds me I have school loans back in the UK
*every parent I have known has charged their child rent once they turn 18, unless they're at school full-time in which case they're not saving any money anyway.
I have only ever known one parent who charged their kid rent and that was after he fucked up really bad.
Aaaaaand yet again you prove to be my least favourite forumer
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit, unless they are literally treating the house like a hotel where they stay and everything is done for them. I have friends like that, and they are charged rent, and I see no issue with that, because they are not pulling their weight around the house.
edit: or they're 30 and they really should be long gone.
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
Pretty much. Anyone who uses a financial advisor is either loaded or persnickety with their money to the point of obsessiveness.
Or tends to make poor decisions otherwise.
Man you should use a financial advisor no matter what, even if he is just taking care of your 401k. If you can you should be putting around an extra 50 dollars or so a week into investments and I'm sorry I'm not smart enough to play the stock markets correctly.
most people here are... well I was going to say college kids but I remember khoo's once-upon-a-time statistics put the avg forum age at like 25
Yeah, but even then most people are renting*, paying off school loans, and just starting out on a fairly basic salary at that age (hello, me)
Shit, this thread reminds me I have school loans back in the UK
*every parent I have known has charged their child rent once they turn 18, unless they're at school full-time in which case they're not saving any money anyway.
I have only ever known one parent who charged their kid rent and that was after he fucked up really bad.
Aaaaaand yet again you prove to be my least favourite forumer
NaS is aces Janson
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit, unless they are literally treating the house like a hotel where they stay and everything is done for them. I have friends like that, and they are charged rent, and I see no issue with that, because they are not pulling their weight around the house.
edit: or they're 30 and they really should be long gone.
I'm sorry but if you are living at home and have a full time job it's pretty insulting to your parents to expect to provide food and board for you so you can just spend as much money as you want. Even if it's just to cover food and utilities you should be paying something if you are working and living at home.
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit, unless they are literally treating the house like a hotel where they stay and everything is done for them. I have friends like that, and they are charged rent, and I see no issue with that, because they are not pulling their weight around the house.
edit: or they're 30 and they really should be long gone.
Well, most parents do it to help their children become more independent (well, as independent as you can get living at home), responsible, and to give them a taste of how to manage their money (although you're still not usually paying bills, or food). Also, sometimes because it's expensive for the parents to have their kid keep living at home, too.
Pretty much. Anyone who uses a financial advisor is either loaded or persnickety with their money to the point of obsessiveness.
Or tends to make poor decisions otherwise.
Man you should use a financial advisor no matter what, even if he is just taking care of your 401k. If you can you should be putting around an extra 50 dollars or so a week into investments and I'm sorry I'm not smart enough to play the stock markets correctly.
I wish I'd had money like 4 years ago to buy RIO stocks, because up until the shit hit the fan last year, they had gone from like $40 to $160. They are back down to like $45 or something now, but man, that would've made a tidy little profit if sold at the correct time.
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit, unless they are literally treating the house like a hotel where they stay and everything is done for them. I have friends like that, and they are charged rent, and I see no issue with that, because they are not pulling their weight around the house.
edit: or they're 30 and they really should be long gone.
I'm sorry but if you are living at home and have a full time job it's pretty insulting to your parents to expect to provide food and board for you so you can just spend as much money as you want. Even if it's just to cover food and utilities you should be paying something if you are working and living at home.
I think you missed the part where I said explicitly I wasn't spending as much money as I want.
Pretty much. Anyone who uses a financial advisor is either loaded or persnickety with their money to the point of obsessiveness.
Or tends to make poor decisions otherwise.
Man you should use a financial advisor no matter what, even if he is just taking care of your 401k. If you can you should be putting around an extra 50 dollars or so a week into investments and I'm sorry I'm not smart enough to play the stock markets correctly.
Yeah I know, I know. I'm just doing stable long-term investments as I can't make heads or tails of the market either and I'm pretty young. I'm just trying to convince myself I don't have to go this route yet.
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit, unless they are literally treating the house like a hotel where they stay and everything is done for them. I have friends like that, and they are charged rent, and I see no issue with that, because they are not pulling their weight around the house.
edit: or they're 30 and they really should be long gone.
Well, most parents do it to help their children become more independent (well, as independent as you can get living at home), responsible, and to give them a taste of how to manage their money (although you're still not usually paying bills, or food). Also, sometimes because it's expensive for the parents to have their kid keep living at home, too.
Shit, I was not only paying rent, but I was paying for my parents' car payments when shit hit the fan with them. I couldn't even afford to go to college. If you think it's unfair for your parents to charge you rent once you're a working adult, then they should kick you out for being an ungrateful little shit.
EDIT: This rant wasn't necessarily directed towards anyone.
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
Pretty much. Anyone who uses a financial advisor is either loaded or persnickety with their money to the point of obsessiveness.
Or tends to make poor decisions otherwise.
Man you should use a financial advisor no matter what, even if he is just taking care of your 401k. If you can you should be putting around an extra 50 dollars or so a week into investments and I'm sorry I'm not smart enough to play the stock markets correctly.
Yeah I know, I know. I'm just doing stable long-term investments as I can't make heads or tails of the market either and I'm pretty young. I'm just trying to convince myself I don't have to go this route yet.
Man it's not much work in all seriousness.
You see them once a year and talk about what type of investment strategies you would like to follow (you are young so since you have plenty of time to earn more money back if you lose it you go high risk) from there you just do a weekly deduction (which can be set up automatically) which goes to them and they invest it for you.
Just over a year ago it would have been around or close to $0.
Now I'm sitting at over or around $10. I think I'm doing alright but it's hard to imagine saving for things like a HOUSE or a NEW CAR even at this rate.
dog I do not think ten dollars is a significant step up from $0
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
Plus, if they're able to keep more of their money for their own purposes, maybe you won't have to be picking up their retirement home bills when they're older
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit, unless they are literally treating the house like a hotel where they stay and everything is done for them. I have friends like that, and they are charged rent, and I see no issue with that, because they are not pulling their weight around the house.
edit: or they're 30 and they really should be long gone.
I'm sorry but if you are living at home and have a full time job it's pretty insulting to your parents to expect to provide food and board for you so you can just spend as much money as you want. Even if it's just to cover food and utilities you should be paying something if you are working and living at home.
I think you missed the part where I said explicitly I wasn't spending as much money as I want.
I did, I just re-read your post again and I still can't see it.
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit, unless they are literally treating the house like a hotel where they stay and everything is done for them. I have friends like that, and they are charged rent, and I see no issue with that, because they are not pulling their weight around the house.
edit: or they're 30 and they really should be long gone.
Well, most parents do it to help their children become more independent (well, as independent as you can get living at home), responsible, and to give them a taste of how to manage their money (although you're still not usually paying bills, or food). Also, sometimes because it's expensive for the parents to have their kid keep living at home, too.
Shit, I was not only paying rent, but I was paying for my parents' car payments when shit hit the fan with them. I couldn't even afford to go to college. If you think it's unfair for your parents to charge you rent once you're a working adult, then they should kick you out for being an ungrateful little shit.
EDIT: This rant wasn't necessarily directed towards anyone.
Uhm. No, my parents never made me pay rent and I moved out when I was twenty? Why? Cause they were supporting me until I had funds to move out, while I was going to school. My friends that had their parents make them pay rent (and it so happens that these are the same parents who will not help with post-secondary costs), even while attending post-secondary had to work 2 jobs often, and their grades suffered as a result. GOOD JOB PARENTS, way to support your kids' future.
So, no, parents charging rent without a good fucking reason are total cunts.
Well I guess it all comes down to the current circumstances involving your family. Experiences may vary, especially in families where money is tighter, so whatevs.
t Blake, see the post I made above that one you quoted.
BUT, it's under the caveat that I am saving a lot of money so that when I do move out I can afford to buy something nice.
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit
Yeah got forbid parents treat their children like adults when they grow up.
I really don't see how something like that could be justified. That said I wold love to be able to mooch off of my parents. The only problem would be privacy and the embarrassment of being a working adult and living with your parents.
most people here are... well I was going to say college kids but I remember khoo's once-upon-a-time statistics put the avg forum age at like 25
Yeah, but even then most people are renting*, paying off school loans, and just starting out on a fairly basic salary at that age (hello, me)
Shit, this thread reminds me I have school loans back in the UK
*every parent I have known has charged their child rent once they turn 18, unless they're at school full-time in which case they're not saving any money anyway.
I have only ever known one parent who charged their kid rent and that was after he fucked up really bad.
Aaaaaand yet again you prove to be my least favourite forumer
Sorry, I'll try better to bend reality to always agree with you in the future.
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit
Yeah got forbid parents treat their children like adults when they grow up.
I really don't see how something like that could be justified. That said I wold love to be able to mooch off of my parents. The only problem would be privacy and the embarrassment of being a working adult and living with your parents.
Yeah, my mother's habit of never knocking on the door, forbidding boyfriends to stay the night and chatting to all of my friends (embarrassing as a teen, although they loved her) did more to make me want to move out than any threats of charging rent did
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit, unless they are literally treating the house like a hotel where they stay and everything is done for them. I have friends like that, and they are charged rent, and I see no issue with that, because they are not pulling their weight around the house.
edit: or they're 30 and they really should be long gone.
Well, most parents do it to help their children become more independent (well, as independent as you can get living at home), responsible, and to give them a taste of how to manage their money (although you're still not usually paying bills, or food). Also, sometimes because it's expensive for the parents to have their kid keep living at home, too.
Shit, I was not only paying rent, but I was paying for my parents' car payments when shit hit the fan with them. I couldn't even afford to go to college. If you think it's unfair for your parents to charge you rent once you're a working adult, then they should kick you out for being an ungrateful little shit.
EDIT: This rant wasn't necessarily directed towards anyone.
Uhm. No, my parents never made me pay rent and I moved out when I was twenty? Why? Cause they were supporting me until I had funds to move out, while I was going to school. My friends that had their parents make them pay rent (and it so happens that these are the same parents who will not help with post-secondary costs), even while attending post-secondary had to work 2 jobs often, and their grades suffered as a result. GOOD JOB PARENTS, way to support your kids' future.
So, no, parents charging rent without a good fucking reason are total cunts.
Same reason that landlords, hotels and boarding houses charge people.
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit, unless they are literally treating the house like a hotel where they stay and everything is done for them. I have friends like that, and they are charged rent, and I see no issue with that, because they are not pulling their weight around the house.
edit: or they're 30 and they really should be long gone.
Well, most parents do it to help their children become more independent (well, as independent as you can get living at home), responsible, and to give them a taste of how to manage their money (although you're still not usually paying bills, or food). Also, sometimes because it's expensive for the parents to have their kid keep living at home, too.
Shit, I was not only paying rent, but I was paying for my parents' car payments when shit hit the fan with them. I couldn't even afford to go to college. If you think it's unfair for your parents to charge you rent once you're a working adult, then they should kick you out for being an ungrateful little shit.
EDIT: This rant wasn't necessarily directed towards anyone.
Uhm. No, my parents never made me pay rent and I moved out when I was twenty? Why? Cause they were supporting me until I had funds to move out, while I was going to school. My friends that had their parents make them pay rent (and it so happens that these are the same parents who will not help with post-secondary costs), even while attending post-secondary had to work 2 jobs often, and their grades suffered as a result. GOOD JOB PARENTS, way to support your kids' future.
So, no, parents charging rent without a good fucking reason are total cunts.
You sound like a spoiled dick.
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit, unless they are literally treating the house like a hotel where they stay and everything is done for them. I have friends like that, and they are charged rent, and I see no issue with that, because they are not pulling their weight around the house.
edit: or they're 30 and they really should be long gone.
Well, most parents do it to help their children become more independent (well, as independent as you can get living at home), responsible, and to give them a taste of how to manage their money (although you're still not usually paying bills, or food). Also, sometimes because it's expensive for the parents to have their kid keep living at home, too.
Shit, I was not only paying rent, but I was paying for my parents' car payments when shit hit the fan with them. I couldn't even afford to go to college. If you think it's unfair for your parents to charge you rent once you're a working adult, then they should kick you out for being an ungrateful little shit.
EDIT: This rant wasn't necessarily directed towards anyone.
Uhm. No, my parents never made me pay rent and I moved out when I was twenty? Why? Cause they were supporting me until I had funds to move out, while I was going to school. My friends that had their parents make them pay rent (and it so happens that these are the same parents who will not help with post-secondary costs), even while attending post-secondary had to work 2 jobs often, and their grades suffered as a result. GOOD JOB PARENTS, way to support your kids' future.
So, no, parents charging rent without a good fucking reason are total cunts.
Look I don't know your friend's parents, but could they actually afford to pay tuition for their kids?
Secondary education isn't a right you know, that's why it costs money, it's hard enough in Australia where if you are a citizen it is cheap let alone America where you can be talking tens of thousands of dollars a year and do you know what, they probably did study harder because they were paying for their degree rather than you.
most people here are... well I was going to say college kids but I remember khoo's once-upon-a-time statistics put the avg forum age at like 25
Yeah, but even then most people are renting*, paying off school loans, and just starting out on a fairly basic salary at that age (hello, me)
Shit, this thread reminds me I have school loans back in the UK
*every parent I have known has charged their child rent once they turn 18, unless they're at school full-time in which case they're not saving any money anyway.
I have only ever known one parent who charged their kid rent and that was after he fucked up really bad.
Aaaaaand yet again you prove to be my least favourite forumer
Sorry, I'll try better to bend reality to always agree with you in the future.
I really don't care if people have differing opinions, but I swear every post you make is a not-so-subtle attempt to insult me, my family or my beliefs. And, strangely enough, no one else's posts on this forum do that, not even people I disagree strongly with.
I love it when people think they could do better than their financial advisors.
I love it.
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
edited May 2009
In all seriousness, when my kids get old enough to get a job and if they still live at home I will charge them rent, and I would like to think (although you know this is a ridiculous time down the road) that when I do I'd be able to put half of it into a savings account and when they do move out I'll get out that cash and use it to buy stuff for their new place.
Charging your kids rent to live in the house is bullshit
Yeah got forbid parents treat their children like adults when they grow up.
I really don't see how something like that could be justified. That said I wold love to be able to mooch off of my parents. The only problem would be privacy and the embarrassment of being a working adult and living with your parents.
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Man I am not loaded.
I know people that earn more than me.
I know people that earn less than me.
I do ok. Although usually when I say I can't afford something it's more that I don't want to spend that much money this particular week.
(also I don't live with Vivienne she has her own place, that we visit, from time to time)
Satans..... hints.....
edit: or they're 30 and they really should be long gone.
Man you should use a financial advisor no matter what, even if he is just taking care of your 401k. If you can you should be putting around an extra 50 dollars or so a week into investments and I'm sorry I'm not smart enough to play the stock markets correctly.
Satans..... hints.....
I'm sorry but if you are living at home and have a full time job it's pretty insulting to your parents to expect to provide food and board for you so you can just spend as much money as you want. Even if it's just to cover food and utilities you should be paying something if you are working and living at home.
Satans..... hints.....
Well, most parents do it to help their children become more independent (well, as independent as you can get living at home), responsible, and to give them a taste of how to manage their money (although you're still not usually paying bills, or food). Also, sometimes because it's expensive for the parents to have their kid keep living at home, too.
I wish I'd had money like 4 years ago to buy RIO stocks, because up until the shit hit the fan last year, they had gone from like $40 to $160. They are back down to like $45 or something now, but man, that would've made a tidy little profit if sold at the correct time.
I think you missed the part where I said explicitly I wasn't spending as much money as I want.
was 1k but for a short time, and now it is gone
Yeah I know, I know. I'm just doing stable long-term investments as I can't make heads or tails of the market either and I'm pretty young. I'm just trying to convince myself I don't have to go this route yet.
BNet: StandrdError#1826
hahaha
no comment on the climbing thing?
Shit, I was not only paying rent, but I was paying for my parents' car payments when shit hit the fan with them. I couldn't even afford to go to college. If you think it's unfair for your parents to charge you rent once you're a working adult, then they should kick you out for being an ungrateful little shit.
EDIT: This rant wasn't necessarily directed towards anyone.
Man it's not much work in all seriousness.
You see them once a year and talk about what type of investment strategies you would like to follow (you are young so since you have plenty of time to earn more money back if you lose it you go high risk) from there you just do a weekly deduction (which can be set up automatically) which goes to them and they invest it for you.
Satans..... hints.....
dog I do not think ten dollars is a significant step up from $0
I split gear costs with two other friends.
Satans..... hints.....
I did, I just re-read your post again and I still can't see it.
Satans..... hints.....
Yeah got forbid parents treat their children like adults when they grow up.
a full rack of gear plus rope is so expensive, if you climb trad
that's why I never get my real rock kick
that and no convenient mountains
I am in e-debt
You should be climbing with nuts! They aren't that expensive.
(Oh god the costs of cams)
Satans..... hints.....
Uhm. No, my parents never made me pay rent and I moved out when I was twenty? Why? Cause they were supporting me until I had funds to move out, while I was going to school. My friends that had their parents make them pay rent (and it so happens that these are the same parents who will not help with post-secondary costs), even while attending post-secondary had to work 2 jobs often, and their grades suffered as a result. GOOD JOB PARENTS, way to support your kids' future.
So, no, parents charging rent without a good fucking reason are total cunts.
t Blake, see the post I made above that one you quoted.
I really don't see how something like that could be justified. That said I wold love to be able to mooch off of my parents. The only problem would be privacy and the embarrassment of being a working adult and living with your parents.
but you still have the cost of ropes
and we aren't even considering shoes and a harness
climbing is pretty expensive
that's why I'm a gym rat
Sorry, I'll try better to bend reality to always agree with you in the future.
tut tut
Which denomination?
Yeah, my mother's habit of never knocking on the door, forbidding boyfriends to stay the night and chatting to all of my friends (embarrassing as a teen, although they loved her) did more to make me want to move out than any threats of charging rent did
Same reason that landlords, hotels and boarding houses charge people.
You sound like a spoiled dick.
Look I don't know your friend's parents, but could they actually afford to pay tuition for their kids?
Secondary education isn't a right you know, that's why it costs money, it's hard enough in Australia where if you are a citizen it is cheap let alone America where you can be talking tens of thousands of dollars a year and do you know what, they probably did study harder because they were paying for their degree rather than you.
Satans..... hints.....
I love it.
Satans..... hints.....
My Dad lived at home til he was 32 :^: