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For a few months now I've been in a casual "sex buddy" situation with a mate of mine. All is good in my life
But if and when people find out me and her have been sleeping together, they always tell me the same thing: "this is gonna land you in a committed relationship".
Is that true? Is there NO way me and her can just maintain a casual sleeping together sort of relationship without getting into a "proper" relationship? Cause I like where me and her are at right now. I don't want to end up in a serious relationship
It's an odd situation that usually results in either 1) one person falling for the other and whoooops, no interest is returned 2) they go for each other and now it's sex++ 3) someone does start to date someone else and things get shut down
Now, I don't think that's saying you can't make it work. Some have, but usually...not so much.
I honestly wouldn't worry about it. It's working for you two right now, things will evolve in they do and they won't if they don't.
If you don't want to be in a committed relationship just make that clear should it ever come up. You start getting into trouble when she gets overly attached and because of the regular good sex you allow her to think you're similarly attached.
This is not something I'd bring up with her unless you think (1) she's thinking you're exclusive or (2) she's overly attached.
"They" are saying you'll land up in a committed relationship because that's what happens to them, or maybe they think you're a cute couple, or should settle down or whatever. It is likely though that with the regular sex, someone's going to get attached and that it will end in them getting hurt; it's not impossible for fuck buddies to amicably stop the "fuck" part of the relationship though.
Eh, I never wound up in a sexual relationship (more than a one time thing) that I wasn't happy to have turn into something more. I think it's different for everyone.
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I agree with whats been said about one of you two becoming attached eventually so I would say that you enjoy it while it lasts but be prepared to sever the ties once you get some signs of attachment or clinginess unless you feel the same way in return. I had a situation once where fuck buddies turned into a year long "undefined" relationship all because I didn't have the balls to just break it off with her when I should've, at least the sex was good.
Is there NO way me and her can just maintain a casual sleeping together sort of relationship without getting into a "proper" relationship? Cause I like where me and her are at right now. I don't want to end up in a serious relationship
The only thing that seperates sex and a serious relationship is "feelings". Thats not a hard and fast rule, but I've found generally that when feelings (and can be any feeling - jealousy, longingness, etc.) get involved the dynamic changes because no longer are you reacting to a bang-buddy, but to someone you CARE about.
And what others have said is true. Now she may not be looking for a relationship with YOU, but that might not mean shes not looking for a relationship, and its possible one of you might feel that sting of adandonment if/when one of you sees something else they like.
Sex is an emotionally invested thing, it's really not surprising that someone will want more than just sex. It's not a hard and fast "get your rocks off" thing like jacking off in the bathroom at school because, well, you know babies get made that way (I hope you know that).
I really don't know why people are equating getting their rocks off with a fuck buddy because it's different. It may be subtle at first but, well, generally if you're not going around for a one night stands with people you're probably looking for something with a little more involvement and reliability. Otherwise, again, you'd use your fucking hand.
Yes, talk it over with your fuck buddy, because whether you approve or not, this is something that can be emotionally disastrous for one or both of you. And you'd probably rather hook up at some future point in time than get your balls knocked back because you didn't discuss it properly.
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I understand that I'm walking a tightrope between "friends with benefits" and "lovers". In fact, now that I think about it, I have gotten a "god i need you" reaction from her on occasion, but I just assumed that was in a "i need to get laid" sense. Now, though, I'm wondering if she actually needed me and not just my dick...
I'd have to disagree bowen, why should he talk to her about it and potentially mess up the good thing he has going? I say mess up because the other person could get the impression that they're making too much out of the situation, ie "its just sex". I realize that sex is rarely without some kind of emotion attached but what if it is just blissful non attached sex at the moment? Plus who's to say that either of them isn't free to connect or even hook up with anyone else if not eachother, which is why I recommended that they be ready to have this situation end at any time due to this possibility? It'd be OP's responsibility to let the fuck buddy know if they have feelings for them or someone else in which case they should either seek to commit with the other person or cut it off and try with the new person they've connected with. Basically I'm just trying to say that by talking with the fuck buddy it could potentially make it awkward if not envoke some unitended feelings with the other person, there by soiling what was probably just an unspoken agreement to have some casual no strings attached sex now and again.
If the OP is the fuck buddy in the equation who doesn't want the relationship to become more serious, chances are extremely high that she's the one who does. Casual boning is rarely completely casual for both parties. One is almost always more attached to the relationship than the other.
If the OP is the fuck buddy in the equation who doesn't want the relationship to become more serious, chances are extremely high that she's the one who does. Casual boning is rarely completely casual for both parties. One is almost always more attached to the relationship than the other.
I'm the one that don't want it to. I wouldn't mind it, cause she's great and I love spending time with her, but I just don't see her as anything more than a friend (who I frequently plough like a farmer on steroids)
If the OP is the fuck buddy in the equation who doesn't want the relationship to become more serious, chances are extremely high that she's the one who does. Casual boning is rarely completely casual for both parties. One is almost always more attached to the relationship than the other.
I'm the one that don't want it to. I wouldn't mind it, cause she's great and I love spending time with her, but I just don't see her as anything more than a friend (who I frequently plough like a farmer on steroids)
I think it comes down to how long you expect it to last. You hear of people being married their whole life, or single their whole life, or even "essentially married but not legally married." I don't think I've ever heard of a casual sex buddy who has lasted for essentially someone's whole life, because people move, change what they like, and so on. If you're having emotionally uninvested sex with someone, it makes perfect sense that it "ends" when one person decides to have sex with someone else or they decide to become more serious, even if that doesn't lead to marriage.
There is a connection with sex, of course, so it's really not different from simple casual dating. You're dating this girl, even if you don't have very strong "serious" feelings. That's no different than having a girl that you go on dates with but don't really ever want to move in with.
This might not help you -- in fact you might want not to do this, this is more annecdotal than anything else. The last time a girl suggested to me that we could be regular casual sex partners, I asked for a little time to think it over, like two weeks--I was absolutely positive that I didn't want to date this girl for a variety of reasons, but she's supposed to be pretty crazy in bed. So I needed some time to ponder. In the interim, I decided to tell her one day that the previous night I'd met a cute girl in a bar and asked for her phone number so we could go out on a date.
The friend who supposedly wanted some no-strings sex flipped out.
I don't normally endorse playing games with people to figure out what they're about, but I'm incredibly glad that I did test this girl in this particular instance. She was already being dishonest with me about what she wanted -- basically she was thinking she could use sex to trap me in a relationship because it was comfortable. Since she was being dishonest, the only way I could get a truthful answer was to challenge the status quo she proposed.
If the OP is the fuck buddy in the equation who doesn't want the relationship to become more serious, chances are extremely high that she's the one who does. Casual boning is rarely completely casual for both parties. One is almost always more attached to the relationship than the other.
I'm the one that don't want it to. I wouldn't mind it, cause she's great and I love spending time with her, but I just don't see her as anything more than a friend (who I frequently plough like a farmer on steroids)
Then this is simple, if you feel like she's getting emotionally attached to the point where if you decided to stop or see someone else she'd be hurt then it's time to put a stop to the sex. She's a great girl like you said and you don't want to take advantage of her and her feelings.
What is this "casual sex" thing? Nothing about sex is casual.
Eventually, someone is going to get attached and I dare say that you may be already based on your "she's great and I love spending time with her" remark.
I have to ask why you WOULDN'T be getting attached:
1 - you have good sex
2 - she's great
3 - you like spending time with her
What is this "casual sex" thing? Nothing about sex is casual.
Eventually, someone is going to get attached and I dare say that you may be already based on your "she's great and I love spending time with her" remark.
I have to ask why you WOULDN'T be getting attached:
1 - you have good sex
2 - she's great
3 - you like spending time with her
What's wrong with her? Is she married?
Nothing's wrong with her at all. She's absolutely fantastic. I just don't see her in a sort of "i want to grow old with you" sort of way
What is this "casual sex" thing? Nothing about sex is casual.
Eventually, someone is going to get attached and I dare say that you may be already based on your "she's great and I love spending time with her" remark.
I have to ask why you WOULDN'T be getting attached:
1 - you have good sex
2 - she's great
3 - you like spending time with her
What's wrong with her? Is she married?
Nothing's wrong with her at all. She's absolutely fantastic. I just don't see her in a sort of "i want to grow old with you" sort of way
but you see her in a "I don't want to lose this good thing I got so let me ask people how I don't screw it up" kind of way? :winky:
Nothing's wrong with her at all. She's absolutely fantastic. I just don't see her in a sort of "i want to grow old with you" sort of way
The longer you let a relationship like this drag on, the more that one of you will be hurt when it ends. There's not much you can do about it. Can you honestly say you wouldn't be even slightly hurt or jealous if she called you up and said it was over, and she was sleeping with someone else?
Can you honestly say you wouldn't be even slightly hurt or jealous if she called you up and said it was over, and she was sleeping with someone else?
I might be a little, yeah. But we both know it can't last with us just ripping into eachother every few days. We've both (at least i have) got the "enjoy the ride while it lasts" approach. We know that if one of us meets someone we want to date then it'll end
If you're both aware of that, and at least claim to accept it, you're doing the "best" you can to keep the relationship as strictly physical as possible. Eventually your relationship will end, and at least one of you will be hurt. Most likely that person will be whichever of you is left without someone to sleep with.
If you're both aware of that, and at least claim to accept it, you're doing the "best" you can to keep the relationship as strictly physical as possible. Eventually your relationship will end, and at least one of you will be hurt. Most likely that person will be whichever of you is left without someone to sleep with.
That'll probably be me. She's hot and a total sex freak, she'll get someone else before I do
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Well let's be clear: not all NSA sex relationships turn into romance or flaming zepplins of failure. It's not an inevitability. However for it to succeed, it requires an absolute equal-minded, on-the-same-page understanding between both (or however many there are) parties involved.
Personally, yeah, I'd talk to her and lay everything out on the line. Make your own intentions clear and be sure that you understand hers. Who knows, you might just be overthinking it and she's not interested in romantic involvement any more than you are. But to go on any assumptions will likely only serve to cause some misunderstandings and could very well muck things up pretty severely.
I'd have to disagree bowen, why should he talk to her about it and potentially mess up the good thing he has going? I say mess up because the other person could get the impression that they're making too much out of the situation, ie "its just sex". I realize that sex is rarely without some kind of emotion attached but what if it is just blissful non attached sex at the moment? Plus who's to say that either of them isn't free to connect or even hook up with anyone else if not eachother, which is why I recommended that they be ready to have this situation end at any time due to this possibility? It'd be OP's responsibility to let the fuck buddy know if they have feelings for them or someone else in which case they should either seek to commit with the other person or cut it off and try with the new person they've connected with. Basically I'm just trying to say that by talking with the fuck buddy it could potentially make it awkward if not envoke some unitended feelings with the other person, there by soiling what was probably just an unspoken agreement to have some casual no strings attached sex now and again.
Wow wall of text.
Because it's not a "good thing going" if he's already worried about such a thing. Sex is never without other emotions attached. Otherwise he'd be content with pounding one out in the shower. In a situation where you have an open fuck buddy relationship, it's a REALLY FUCKING GOOD IDEA to talk it over with each other before someone gets hurt.
bowen on
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
I'd have to disagree bowen, why should he talk to her about it and potentially mess up the good thing he has going? I say mess up because the other person could get the impression that they're making too much out of the situation, ie "its just sex". I realize that sex is rarely without some kind of emotion attached but what if it is just blissful non attached sex at the moment? Plus who's to say that either of them isn't free to connect or even hook up with anyone else if not eachother, which is why I recommended that they be ready to have this situation end at any time due to this possibility? It'd be OP's responsibility to let the fuck buddy know if they have feelings for them or someone else in which case they should either seek to commit with the other person or cut it off and try with the new person they've connected with. Basically I'm just trying to say that by talking with the fuck buddy it could potentially make it awkward if not envoke some unitended feelings with the other person, there by soiling what was probably just an unspoken agreement to have some casual no strings attached sex now and again.
Wow wall of text.
Because it's not a "good thing going" if he's already worried about such a thing. Sex is never without other emotions attached. Otherwise he'd be content with pounding one out in the shower. In a situation where you have an open fuck buddy relationship, it's a REALLY FUCKING GOOD IDEA to talk it over with each other before someone gets hurt.
Would a valid excuse for avoiding doing that be because it would be one hell of an awkward conversation? And i mean even more awkward than explaining to my mum why I had rope and a gag in my bedside cabinet
No. Because in order for said relationship to work you both need to be open. You're asking for the problem to escalate. I'm not saying it will but without the open dialogue it leaves a lot of room for the "I thought you loved me" situations.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with talking about sex with a person you're having sex with.
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If you're both aware of that, and at least claim to accept it, you're doing the "best" you can to keep the relationship as strictly physical as possible. Eventually your relationship will end, and at least one of you will be hurt. Most likely that person will be whichever of you is left without someone to sleep with.
That'll probably be me. She's hot and a total sex freak, she'll get someone else before I do
You basically have 3 options then.
1) Make an honest relationship out of it.
2) Continue banging away, and understand that at some point in the possibly near future you're going to get "dumped", be hurt to some extent, and probably be uncomfortable hanging out with her and her new beau.
3) End the relationship and try for a semi-soft let down for all parties.
No. Because in order for said relationship to work you both need to be open. You're asking for the problem to escalate. I'm not saying it will but without the open dialogue it leaves a lot of room for the "I thought you loved me" situations.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with talking about sex with a person you're having sex with.
We don't really talk about it. We just do it. We're both able to tell if the other is horny just from looking at them. Kinda odd when you think about it. I hang out with her like she's my best mate...which I guess she sort of is...then every few days or so we just throw down.
Plus talking to her about it, and specifially saying "i don't feel about you the way you might feel about me", especially if it turns out she DOESN'T feel that way, could make more problems than it solves
I'd have to disagree bowen, why should he talk to her about it and potentially mess up the good thing he has going? I say mess up because the other person could get the impression that they're making too much out of the situation, ie "its just sex". I realize that sex is rarely without some kind of emotion attached but what if it is just blissful non attached sex at the moment? Plus who's to say that either of them isn't free to connect or even hook up with anyone else if not eachother, which is why I recommended that they be ready to have this situation end at any time due to this possibility? It'd be OP's responsibility to let the fuck buddy know if they have feelings for them or someone else in which case they should either seek to commit with the other person or cut it off and try with the new person they've connected with. Basically I'm just trying to say that by talking with the fuck buddy it could potentially make it awkward if not envoke some unitended feelings with the other person, there by soiling what was probably just an unspoken agreement to have some casual no strings attached sex now and again.
Wow wall of text.
Because it's not a "good thing going" if he's already worried about such a thing. Sex is never without other emotions attached. Otherwise he'd be content with pounding one out in the shower. In a situation where you have an open fuck buddy relationship, it's a REALLY FUCKING GOOD IDEA to talk it over with each other before someone gets hurt.
Would a valid excuse for avoiding doing that be because it would be one hell of an awkward conversation? And i mean even more awkward than explaining to my mum why I had rope and a gag in my bedside cabinet
Basically I'm just trying to say that by talking with the fuck buddy it could potentially make it awkward
I can understand how the conversation would be awkward and I don't blame you but you may have to be the responsible one here and end things on a good note before someone gets hurt (which mostly everyone here is agreeing is inevitable). Bowen I'm not putting down your suggestion I'm just simply pointing out the alternative.
No no problem, it's just really bad to not talk about it. Best bet is to either end it or make a relationship out of it. If you're "not ready for a relationship" then you probably aren't ready for sex and it's life changing responsibilities unless you're a Eunuch.
bowen on
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Plus talking to her about it, and specifially saying "i don't feel about you the way you might feel about me", especially if it turns out she DOESN'T feel that way, could make more problems than it solves
If she's really just in it to get ridden like a dirt bike every few days, a quick conversation to confirm she feels that way isn't going to put her off. If she's more attached to you than you want to be, a quick conversation to clarify the situation is going to save a lot of pain later on.
Plus talking to her about it, and specifially saying "i don't feel about you the way you might feel about me", especially if it turns out she DOESN'T feel that way, could make more problems than it solves
If she's really just in it to get ridden like a dirt bike every few days, a quick conversation to confirm she feels that way isn't going to put her off. If she's more attached to you than you want to be, a quick conversation to clarify the situation is going to save a lot of pain later on.
First off that is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. Plus she's usually on top, so does that count as her getting ridden? I suppose your right about a little bit of a talk about it. If for no other reason then just clarify things so we can get back to doing the nasty without either of us in any doubt about where we are with eachother.
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Plus talking to her about it, and specifially saying "i don't feel about you the way you might feel about me", especially if it turns out she DOESN'T feel that way, could make more problems than it solves
Phrased that way, yeah, that could make things pretty awkward and difficult. Just do this: the next time you're both hanging out with each other for an extended period of time, just say "hey, can we talk really quick? I really enjoy what we've got going on here and I would assume you do as well, but I've always had the impression that we were doing this in a 'no strings attached' fashion, and I want to be sure you feel the same way."
If she's offended or put off by that, then it likely would have ended poorly anyway because she clearly would have been emotionally invested in it.
If, on the other hand, she simply says "Yeah totally, you're a great guy but, no offense, I'm not really into you in a romantic sense" then you've got clear sailing ahead.
Good luck and I hope you don't talk yourself out of great sex. I've done that and it certainly is an interesting feeling.
Do think about how you're going to bring up the issue. Personally I'd do it as obliquely as possible. No one really wants to pay too much attention to the fact that the relationship is essentially your using one another; that can be off-putting.
Problem being that our other mates know nothing about mine and her's "active" friendship, so I can't talk to her about it then, and whenever me and her are alone together I'll only have a limited window of opportunity before the clothes come off and she starts on my neck. And once she's got her lips on my neck I'm powerless. Completely powerless. Haha
Problem being that our other mates know nothing about mine and her's "active" friendship, so I can't talk to her about it then, and whenever me and her are alone together I'll only have a limited window of opportunity before the clothes come off and she starts on my neck. And once she's got her lips on my neck I'm powerless. Completely powerless. Haha
Well, I apologize for being blunt, but this is just making up excuses so you can avoid something that you think will be uncomfortable and possibly deprive you of a warm wet place to park your wang. Like it or not, you're in some sort of relationship, and if you don't keep a firm hand on the reins, it's likely to steer itself into someplace where either you or her are going to get hurt. You may not "love" her in exactly that sense, but at least have enough respect for her to communicate, be honest, and make sure you're both on the same page.
Take 5 minutes to sort this out, I know you can find the time.
Problem being that our other mates know nothing about mine and her's "active" friendship, so I can't talk to her about it then, and whenever me and her are alone together I'll only have a limited window of opportunity before the clothes come off and she starts on my neck. And once she's got her lips on my neck I'm powerless. Completely powerless. Haha
Well, I apologize for being blunt, but this is just making up excuses so you can avoid something that you think will be uncomfortable and possibly deprive you of a warm wet place to park your wang. Like it or not, you're in some sort of relationship, and if you don't keep a firm hand on the reins, it's likely to steer itself into someplace where either you or her are going to get hurt. You may not "love" her in exactly that sense, but at least have enough respect for her to communicate, be honest, and make sure you're both on the same page.
Take 5 minutes to sort this out, I know you can find the time.
I know, I know. You're right, I've gotta talk to her about it. Nothing says it has to be a big deal anyway. It can just be a casual chat. Besides me and her both have nothing to do for a few hours around lunch time tomorrow, so we'll probably be together anyway. Out of that 2/3 hours I'm fairly certain I can get in 5 minutes to clarify this
Why don't you just tell her you love her and get it over with.
She's "hot", loves sex with you, is "absolutely fantastic", and is your "best mate".
Seriously, you should change the thread title to "sex buddies at the moment but I want more..."
Everything you have said is screaming at me that you are in love with this woman.
Does no one else get this impression?
Regardless of my conspiracy theories, why can't your friends know you guys are bumpin uglies? Why does it have to be a secret? And this is just me being nosy. Sorry.
Yeah, I kinda thought that the definition of love was roughly "thinking someone is hot, rocking their shit in the sack, being best friends and thinking they're fantastic". These are layman's terms, of course.
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Now, I don't think that's saying you can't make it work. Some have, but usually...not so much.
I honestly wouldn't worry about it. It's working for you two right now, things will evolve in they do and they won't if they don't.
Go have some sex and don't fret about it.
This is not something I'd bring up with her unless you think (1) she's thinking you're exclusive or (2) she's overly attached.
"They" are saying you'll land up in a committed relationship because that's what happens to them, or maybe they think you're a cute couple, or should settle down or whatever. It is likely though that with the regular sex, someone's going to get attached and that it will end in them getting hurt; it's not impossible for fuck buddies to amicably stop the "fuck" part of the relationship though.
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The only thing that seperates sex and a serious relationship is "feelings". Thats not a hard and fast rule, but I've found generally that when feelings (and can be any feeling - jealousy, longingness, etc.) get involved the dynamic changes because no longer are you reacting to a bang-buddy, but to someone you CARE about.
And what others have said is true. Now she may not be looking for a relationship with YOU, but that might not mean shes not looking for a relationship, and its possible one of you might feel that sting of adandonment if/when one of you sees something else they like.
I really don't know why people are equating getting their rocks off with a fuck buddy because it's different. It may be subtle at first but, well, generally if you're not going around for a one night stands with people you're probably looking for something with a little more involvement and reliability. Otherwise, again, you'd use your fucking hand.
Yes, talk it over with your fuck buddy, because whether you approve or not, this is something that can be emotionally disastrous for one or both of you. And you'd probably rather hook up at some future point in time than get your balls knocked back because you didn't discuss it properly.
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I lol'd
There is a connection with sex, of course, so it's really not different from simple casual dating. You're dating this girl, even if you don't have very strong "serious" feelings. That's no different than having a girl that you go on dates with but don't really ever want to move in with.
The friend who supposedly wanted some no-strings sex flipped out.
I don't normally endorse playing games with people to figure out what they're about, but I'm incredibly glad that I did test this girl in this particular instance. She was already being dishonest with me about what she wanted -- basically she was thinking she could use sex to trap me in a relationship because it was comfortable. Since she was being dishonest, the only way I could get a truthful answer was to challenge the status quo she proposed.
Then this is simple, if you feel like she's getting emotionally attached to the point where if you decided to stop or see someone else she'd be hurt then it's time to put a stop to the sex. She's a great girl like you said and you don't want to take advantage of her and her feelings.
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Eventually, someone is going to get attached and I dare say that you may be already based on your "she's great and I love spending time with her" remark.
I have to ask why you WOULDN'T be getting attached:
1 - you have good sex
2 - she's great
3 - you like spending time with her
What's wrong with her? Is she married?
but you see her in a "I don't want to lose this good thing I got so let me ask people how I don't screw it up" kind of way? :winky:
The longer you let a relationship like this drag on, the more that one of you will be hurt when it ends. There's not much you can do about it. Can you honestly say you wouldn't be even slightly hurt or jealous if she called you up and said it was over, and she was sleeping with someone else?
Personally, yeah, I'd talk to her and lay everything out on the line. Make your own intentions clear and be sure that you understand hers. Who knows, you might just be overthinking it and she's not interested in romantic involvement any more than you are. But to go on any assumptions will likely only serve to cause some misunderstandings and could very well muck things up pretty severely.
Wow wall of text.
Because it's not a "good thing going" if he's already worried about such a thing. Sex is never without other emotions attached. Otherwise he'd be content with pounding one out in the shower. In a situation where you have an open fuck buddy relationship, it's a REALLY FUCKING GOOD IDEA to talk it over with each other before someone gets hurt.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with talking about sex with a person you're having sex with.
1) Make an honest relationship out of it.
2) Continue banging away, and understand that at some point in the possibly near future you're going to get "dumped", be hurt to some extent, and probably be uncomfortable hanging out with her and her new beau.
3) End the relationship and try for a semi-soft let down for all parties.
Plus talking to her about it, and specifially saying "i don't feel about you the way you might feel about me", especially if it turns out she DOESN'T feel that way, could make more problems than it solves
EDIT: In response to the post above, EXACTLY.
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If she's offended or put off by that, then it likely would have ended poorly anyway because she clearly would have been emotionally invested in it.
If, on the other hand, she simply says "Yeah totally, you're a great guy but, no offense, I'm not really into you in a romantic sense" then you've got clear sailing ahead.
Do think about how you're going to bring up the issue. Personally I'd do it as obliquely as possible. No one really wants to pay too much attention to the fact that the relationship is essentially your using one another; that can be off-putting.
Well, I apologize for being blunt, but this is just making up excuses so you can avoid something that you think will be uncomfortable and possibly deprive you of a warm wet place to park your wang. Like it or not, you're in some sort of relationship, and if you don't keep a firm hand on the reins, it's likely to steer itself into someplace where either you or her are going to get hurt. You may not "love" her in exactly that sense, but at least have enough respect for her to communicate, be honest, and make sure you're both on the same page.
Take 5 minutes to sort this out, I know you can find the time.
She's "hot", loves sex with you, is "absolutely fantastic", and is your "best mate".
Seriously, you should change the thread title to "sex buddies at the moment but I want more..."
Everything you have said is screaming at me that you are in love with this woman.
Does no one else get this impression?
Regardless of my conspiracy theories, why can't your friends know you guys are bumpin uglies? Why does it have to be a secret? And this is just me being nosy. Sorry.