Question: Anyone ever run someone through a lower level instance for a price (in this case 200g), only to have that person bail out? Is there anything I can do in this situation? It really sucks because I spent a good 2 hours trying to run them through BRD and then ST only to have then log off on me.
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Question: Anyone ever run someone through a lower level instance for a price (in this case 200g), only to have that person bail out? Is there anything I can do in this situation? It really sucks because I spent a good 2 hours trying to run them through BRD and then ST only to have then log off on me.
Rolling another alt, it's strange how hilariously easy the old-world dungeons are now compared to vanilla days.
As in people will leave, and as long as you have a tank, healer, and DPS you can 3-man anything I've come across. Sometimes the tank can even be substituted for a Ret Pally, Arms/Fury Warrior, etc.
I ran scarlet monastery the other day in a pick up group consisting of me (level 39 Enhancement shaman), a level 37 arms warrior who didn't have a shield, a level 34 fury warrior, a level 38 priest who went afk during almost every fight and would disappear for 3-5 minutes at a time, and a level 40 rogue.
We did the entire thing, there were moments where I'd have to start healing the 2h arms spec'd tank during a boss because the priest went afk, and we still finished the place pretty handily.
Question: Anyone ever run someone through a lower level instance for a price (in this case 200g), only to have that person bail out? Is there anything I can do in this situation? It really sucks because I spent a good 2 hours trying to run them through BRD and then ST only to have then log off on me.
Ask for payment in advance, duh.
Then you can log off on them.
yeah, always get payment in advance.
also, who the hell wants to run BRD? In the time it takes to complete, you could finish leveling to 58 and go to outland.
It's getting to the point that they might just want to make the old world instances entirely non-elite/design them to be solo'd / duo'd or so. Trim the trash packs and let people use them as personal questing/exp and gear farming zones, were they so inclined.
Unless things have changed dramatically since I left, groups were rarely entirely level appropriate anyway, so why not just cut the 'bringing a level 70-80 along to speed things up' middleman out of the equation and let them become something doable on a smaller scale? Now that (I assume) even BC content is likely done like dinner (aside from a never ending swell of death knight alts?), making old world 5 mans 1-2 mans seems like a good way to keep alts (especially with refer-a-friend going) a touch more interesting.
Of course, after doing those instances dozens (if not hundreds?) of times over the past half decade, I suppose they could include free days for completing them and people would probably still avoid them like the plague, so perhaps I'm just crazy.
Given the number of times I've completed BRD, I wouldn't rule that out as a possibility.
Edit: of course, I suppose that also runs the risk of making players think that they're entitled to anything and everything they want for little or no effort, but then again, we already have the arenas for that. HIYOOO!
I kid, I kid, but I guess it is a consideration. On the other hand, trying to 5 man the early content in a level appropriate fashion isn't something I'd wish upon people I actively disliked, hefty nerfs in place or not.
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First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
The problem with the old world instances is that back in THA day, the gear from them would last you much longer because levels were slower. And especially gear from BRD, or LBRS would last you until you got epics from raiding. Even some Maraudon gear, like the ring from Princess, would last until you got epics. With the ability to fly through levels, the gear is far less important because you're likely to get a quest reward or mob drop that's better because you leveled up so god damn fast that your blue you got yesterday is under leveled.
Which is my point. The instances were hard because the gear was pretty good. Or at least it was often a step up from shitty greens, and having been buffed, is pretty decent. However, now that the gear is somewhat irrelavent, making people jump through the extra hoops just puts them off doing the content when they can instead blow through a couple levels and make it a non-issue. Make the early instances a cake walk and at least they see/experience the content. It might not be overly challenging, but just seeing BRD in its sheer entirety is pretty awesome.
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First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
letting BRD be done with two level appropriate people would likely cause more people to go to said instances. more instances launched means more load on the server. more load on the server means more 'too many instances launched at this time'. I don't think ruining them for RAF characters is going to lighten the load any.
Argent Tournament update for mount and pet collectors:
Two New Quest Hubs
A new Cult of the Damned camp now sits overlooking the Tournament grounds and spying on the activity below.
Located on an island north of Icecrown, the former tuskarr village known as Hrothgar's Landing is a mist-shrouded staging point for Sea Vrykul raids upon the ships of the Silver Covenant and the Sunreavers in the waters between the island and Icecrown.
New Dailies and Rewards
Just when you thought you had seen and done it all, the Argent Tournament throws out the gauntlet once more and adds a new line of quests and rewards for players who have become exalted with either the Silver Covenant or the Sunreavers. Earn seals by participating in three additional random dailies and earn brand-new rewards.
New Tabards: Alliance characters will be able to earn the Silver Covenant tabard and Horde characters will be able to earn the Sunreaver tabard currently seen being worn by NPCs on the grounds.
New Mounts: New ground and flying mounts will be available for both Horde and Alliance. Alliance will be able to purchase the new Quel'dorei Steed and Silver Covenant Hippogryph. Horde will be able to purchase the new Sunreaver Hawkstrider and Sunreaver Dragonhawk.
New Pet: A brand-new pet, the Shimmering Wyrmling, will be available to characters of both factions who distinguish themselves.
Argent Crusader Dailies and Rewards
A new line of dailies and rewards for players who have earned the title of Crusader will be available with two random seal-awarding dailies.
New Heirlooms
New Argent Crusade Banner
New Argent Crusade Tabard: Ports you directly to the Tournament grounds.
An Upgraded Squire: As any good squire should, this upgraded squire now has a mount.
New Mount: A new Argent Crusade paladin-only charger will be available.
Eh, I was kinda disappointed that they dropped the sea vrykul stuff after BT/HF. I was somewhat curious (from a lore perspective) as to where these Sea Vrykul were coming from, given that they don't appear at all in Icecrown or Dragonblight, and just seem to disappear from any mention ingame.
It's getting to the point that they might just want to make the old world instances entirely non-elite/design them to be solo'd / duo'd or so. Trim the trash packs and let people use them as personal questing/exp and gear farming zones, were they so inclined.
That's truthful. The only time I see people running old-world type instances is either soloing/5-manning instances with some people in the 70s/80, or higher level people giving runs to lowbies. Even with the achievement, it's just kind of a run-and-do-it type of thing. Cutting out all the trash and just letting people fight the boss would likely encourage more running of old content by level-appropriate groups.
Dammit, they want me to get the Crusader Title??? But then I won't be able to do both Valiant and Champion dailies.
I only do 3 of the 4 valiant dailies now at this point (I skip the sword one because meh), and they replace them with 3 new ones that give seals. I'd say this is a fair trade.
The Crusader title requires you to be Exalted and Champion with all of the capitals, doesn't it?
I believe so, but I'm exalted with all 5 already and have 48 valiant tokens I'm not turning in so I can soak the valiant quests.
Gag. Getting champion with them all isn't the big deal for me, but working on rep (I rerolled DK as my main when the expansion came out) sucks. I'm almost done Gnomeregan but it seems like its just going so slow. I still haven't gone back and done old-world quests though, just runecloth and the 1000 rep from dailies.
I still don't know how i feel about dailies, they're easy to do and such, but limited and feel like a chore.
i especially hate when dailies are the only way to get rep for something, if I want to farm a mob for 10 hours or run an instance a dozen times for rep, let me, please
optimally, all options are available, but of course this isn't always the case
Just doing the old world starting areas nets you a ton of rep. It didn't take much after that for my paladin. A few days of farming runecloth maybe.
I was afraid of that. At least they changed the rep system back from how it was in vanilla days (oh god, so much runecloth to get my druid to exalted with Orgrimmar. so much).
[EDIT] So much runecloth, but the AQ war effort helped finish it off too now that I think about it.
I still don't know how i feel about dailies, they're easy to do and such, but limited and feel like a chore.
i especially hate when dailies are the only way to get rep for something, if I want to farm a mob for 10 hours or run an instance a dozen times for rep, let me, please
optimally, all options are available, but of course this isn't always the case
FUCKING SONS OF HODIR REP!!!
I got that to exalted on my Druid, who I've since retired. There's no way in hell I'm gonna grind that tedious shit on all my alts or my new main (hunter). Crappy shoulder enchants will do.
I still don't know how i feel about dailies, they're easy to do and such, but limited and feel like a chore.
i especially hate when dailies are the only way to get rep for something, if I want to farm a mob for 10 hours or run an instance a dozen times for rep, let me, please
optimally, all options are available, but of course this isn't always the case
FUCKING SONS OF HODIR REP!!!
I got that to exalted on my Druid, who I've since retired. There's no way in hell I'm gonna grind that tedious shit on all my alts or my new main (hunter). Crappy shoulder enchants will do.
I don't know, I actually liked Hodir dailies. They helped pay off epic-flying for both my current 80s (at least the second 80 was a human, though...).
I still don't know how i feel about dailies, they're easy to do and such, but limited and feel like a chore.
i especially hate when dailies are the only way to get rep for something, if I want to farm a mob for 10 hours or run an instance a dozen times for rep, let me, please
optimally, all options are available, but of course this isn't always the case
Pretty much every rep in Northrend, at least all the good ones, have more than one way to earn rep. Either through dalies or some kind of grinding. Oracles/Frenzyheart are the only ones I can think of that don't, and it doesn't take very long to get revered for the egg. If you want exalted it takes a bit longer, but it's nothing to difficult.
Just doing the old world starting areas nets you a ton of rep. It didn't take much after that for my paladin. A few days of farming runecloth maybe.
I was afraid of that. At least they changed the rep system back from how it was in vanilla days (oh god, so much runecloth to get my druid to exalted with Orgrimmar. so much).
[EDIT] So much runecloth, but the AQ war effort helped finish it off too now that I think about it.
Yeah, my dwarf hunter had done literally everything up to level 45-ish that netted him Ironforge rep, back in 2005, and is currently, at 80, and after turning in 25 valiant marks (d'oh!) sitting at just a bit over revered. So I'm currently farming rep for my home faction, which blows ass.
More of a long term thing, if you're looking for easy city rep: Don't forget that quite a few of the seasonal quests give rep with all 5 home factions...
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I'm kidding.
Ask for payment in advance, duh.
I ran scarlet monastery the other day in a pick up group consisting of me (level 39 Enhancement shaman), a level 37 arms warrior who didn't have a shield, a level 34 fury warrior, a level 38 priest who went afk during almost every fight and would disappear for 3-5 minutes at a time, and a level 40 rogue.
We did the entire thing, there were moments where I'd have to start healing the 2h arms spec'd tank during a boss because the priest went afk, and we still finished the place pretty handily.
Well, ground mounts are still frequently used in PvP, Arena and BGs, so that's still a pretty good savings.
Unless you were being sarcastic there, in which case, disregard.
yeah, always get payment in advance.
also, who the hell wants to run BRD? In the time it takes to complete, you could finish leveling to 58 and go to outland.
Unless things have changed dramatically since I left, groups were rarely entirely level appropriate anyway, so why not just cut the 'bringing a level 70-80 along to speed things up' middleman out of the equation and let them become something doable on a smaller scale? Now that (I assume) even BC content is likely done like dinner (aside from a never ending swell of death knight alts?), making old world 5 mans 1-2 mans seems like a good way to keep alts (especially with refer-a-friend going) a touch more interesting.
Of course, after doing those instances dozens (if not hundreds?) of times over the past half decade, I suppose they could include free days for completing them and people would probably still avoid them like the plague, so perhaps I'm just crazy.
Given the number of times I've completed BRD, I wouldn't rule that out as a possibility.
Edit: of course, I suppose that also runs the risk of making players think that they're entitled to anything and everything they want for little or no effort, but then again, we already have the arenas for that. HIYOOO!
I kid, I kid, but I guess it is a consideration. On the other hand, trying to 5 man the early content in a level appropriate fashion isn't something I'd wish upon people I actively disliked, hefty nerfs in place or not.
Or they could stop counting their money (a gargantuan task, I know) for a second and purchase new instance servers :P
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So...3 more mounts for me to pick up at 3.2. yay!
I got past the first part of it but then I got sidetracked doing the Netherwing and Skyguard dailies for rep.
Enemy at the Gates is hard.
That's truthful. The only time I see people running old-world type instances is either soloing/5-manning instances with some people in the 70s/80, or higher level people giving runs to lowbies. Even with the achievement, it's just kind of a run-and-do-it type of thing. Cutting out all the trash and just letting people fight the boss would likely encourage more running of old content by level-appropriate groups.
I only do 3 of the 4 valiant dailies now at this point (I skip the sword one because meh), and they replace them with 3 new ones that give seals. I'd say this is a fair trade.
I believe so, but I'm exalted with all 5 already and have 48 valiant tokens I'm not turning in so I can soak the valiant quests.
Gag. Getting champion with them all isn't the big deal for me, but working on rep (I rerolled DK as my main when the expansion came out) sucks. I'm almost done Gnomeregan but it seems like its just going so slow. I still haven't gone back and done old-world quests though, just runecloth and the 1000 rep from dailies.
i especially hate when dailies are the only way to get rep for something, if I want to farm a mob for 10 hours or run an instance a dozen times for rep, let me, please
optimally, all options are available, but of course this isn't always the case
I was afraid of that. At least they changed the rep system back from how it was in vanilla days (oh god, so much runecloth to get my druid to exalted with Orgrimmar. so much).
[EDIT] So much runecloth, but the AQ war effort helped finish it off too now that I think about it.
FUCKING SONS OF HODIR REP!!!
I got that to exalted on my Druid, who I've since retired. There's no way in hell I'm gonna grind that tedious shit on all my alts or my new main (hunter). Crappy shoulder enchants will do.
I don't know, I actually liked Hodir dailies. They helped pay off epic-flying for both my current 80s (at least the second 80 was a human, though...).
Pretty much every rep in Northrend, at least all the good ones, have more than one way to earn rep. Either through dalies or some kind of grinding. Oracles/Frenzyheart are the only ones I can think of that don't, and it doesn't take very long to get revered for the egg. If you want exalted it takes a bit longer, but it's nothing to difficult.
Yeah, my dwarf hunter had done literally everything up to level 45-ish that netted him Ironforge rep, back in 2005, and is currently, at 80, and after turning in 25 valiant marks (d'oh!) sitting at just a bit over revered. So I'm currently farming rep for my home faction, which blows ass.