Comics News II: Electric Boogaloo

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Why Kyle Baker? Why?

    All my fears about Baker's switch to a "realistic," CGI-referenced style are coming true.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Lazy and awful looking.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Elite Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Munch wrote: »
    Why Kyle Baker? Why?

    All my fears about Baker's switch to a "realistic," CGI-referenced style are coming true.

    I like how it was the 4th image result in google that he pulled off "limousine"

    All the artists are doing this now, and it's pissing me off. Quesada does something similar now with his layouts (the backgrounds are generated in 3D or something and he put his character in it), and it just looks flat.

    The only artist who does it right is Maleev, because he'll go over the images (however roughly) to go with his art.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Munch wrote: »
    Why Kyle Baker? Why?

    All my fears about Baker's switch to a "realistic," CGI-referenced style are coming true.

    Going by the scans on SA, the only thing "referenced" is the discoball insted of the chandalier. Everything else looks it was run through some filters or whatever.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    dang I can't see these things at work

    so pissed

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Well, I know both Quesada and Leinil Yu have used Google's SketchUp in order to organize backgrounds, and Quesada and Freddy Williams II both do their backgrounds digitally on a tablet now, so they can easily re-arrange and alter elements to their liking. But there's a vast wealth of difference between Googling and tracing a photo, and digitally creating a background.

    Really, as long as it looks good and nobody's stealing photos, I don't care. Unfortunately, Baker's art fails both tests.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Elite Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I've always wondered about Williams, because he has good art but when ever he does something small like a computer monitor int he background it has the same crispness that a regular full size drawing would. He just shrinks it down on the panel layout or something? He even has a book out for DC on how to digitally draw I think. I might have to look through it just to see how it's done.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    You can see him talking about his process here.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Elite Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    That is so cool and answers my question. Williams needs a permanent gig somewhere, because he's a good monthly artist who is apparently great to work with and get commissions from.


    Anyways, Josh Hoopes reappears ready to scam some more people.

    And Mark Waid is being a twat again.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Munch wrote: »
    Why Kyle Baker? Why?

    All my fears about Baker's switch to a "realistic," CGI-referenced style are coming true.

    That out-Lands Land himself. Someone must've over-committed themselves recently.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Wow, Quesada sure does like poking fun at DC. I don't think Didio even mentions Marvel in his 20 answers thing.

    That's because DiDio's an adult. Albeit a severely disturbed one by all appearances.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    crimsondude everytime I see you post I'mma be incredibly angry until you clear up those slights you made against commando

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  • TicaldfjamTicaldfjam Snoqualmie, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Munch wrote: »
    Why Kyle Baker? Why?

    All my fears about Baker's switch to a "realistic," CGI-referenced style are coming true.

    That out-Lands Land himself. Someone must've over-committed themselves recently.


    But.....thats unpossible!!

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    TexiKen wrote: »

    That reminds me I need to donate something to the Heroes Initiative and HeroesCon. And they've got a hell of a signing list this year with George Perez, Matt Fraction, and Steve Epting.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    crimsondude everytime I see you post I'mma be incredibly angry until you clear up those slights you made against commando

    Oh no!

    Added Word Balloon: The Comic Book Podcast.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    OK I woke up and couldn't get back to sleep (It's a little past 6 am for me now) and I'm reading Bendis's twitter page and he mentions that Howard Stern is talking about Captain America. Assuming he means issue 600, that means some major shit is going down.

    Update: NY Daily News Article

    DON"T CLICK THE LINK IF YOU DON"T WANT MASSIVE SPOILERS.

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  • RansRans Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    meh

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  • TicaldfjamTicaldfjam Snoqualmie, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I hope to fucking God that's not true. Why the fuck
    Bring Steve Rogers back when Bucky is doing a fine damned job filling the Cap role. God this makes Civil War even more cheap than it originally was.

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  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Because it's comics and nobody ever stays dead?

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Elite Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    from the NY Daily News article:
    "Consumers are responding to it like crazy," said Gerry Gladston, co-owner of Midtown Comics in Manhattan. "They don't feel like it's a stunt."

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/arts/

    It is a stunt, genius. Everyone called it months ago.

    It's stupid. It's been 2.5 years, but only what, 6 months Marvel time? And Bucky has only really been Cap for about a month or two I guess.

    I get a feeling Brubaker didn't want this to happen, but he was forced to in order to stay in good standings with Quesada and allow books like Incognito to remain under the Icon imprint. This really can't be a part of his plan for Cap. "Ok, I'm going to bring Bucky back, have him be Cap for 15 issues, and then bring Steve back! It won't seem forced at all!"

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  • TicaldfjamTicaldfjam Snoqualmie, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I originally was a big Joey Q fan, but he has been in the "Vince McMahon" frame of mind for the past few months at Marvel and its starting to get annoying. Hell, I thought Didio was batshit loco at times during Comic Con interviews in regards to explaining the Final Crisis mess to the public.

    And I agree about Brubaker being forced by the ego of Quesada to go through with this. The "Lets bring Steve back 6 months 616 time" does not scream Brubakerish at all.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm torn on this. I like Bucky as Cap, but I like Steve as Cap better. It really does feel like it's too soon.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Wasn't it Brubakers idea to kill of Cap in the first place? Back when Steve died I heard Marvel had planned over two years of stories without him so this isn't that surprising. I doubt Quesada just threw this on Brubaker at the last minute or anything. Plus this doesn't mean for sure that Bucky will go back to being, well, just Bucky.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Screw the big reveal news. I just found out Charlie Huston is going to be writing Deadpool. Though I'm not a fan of the art Baker's posted, I'm really excited to see how Huston handles the character.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
  • TexiKenTexiKen Elite Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Wasn't it Brubakers idea to kill of Cap in the first place? Back when Steve died I heard Marvel had planned over two years of stories without him so this isn't that surprising. I doubt Quesada just threw this on Brubaker at the last minute or anything. Plus this doesn't mean for sure that Bucky will go back to being, well, just Bucky.

    He didn't throw it on him last minute, he just probably told Brubaker "Hey, we're bringing Cap back. Since you've been writing Cap you can write it and Hitch can delay it for you, or we can find someone else."

    It also makes the whole Fallen Son series and everyone's reaction to Steve's death seem so over the top and pointless, especially in the Marvel world where people die and come back all the time, to the point where it can be made fun of as a casino setting waiting for a payout. Every hero in the marvel universe should have Siryn's attitude towards death (like her father's), where you just don't believe it because they're going to come back so why cry about it.

    To me, this is a case of death being used so much that because they haven't stuck to their guns and kept anyone but Jean dead for a long period of time it just puts everything that came before it in a bad light.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    How about we wait for it to happen and then judge it after we've read it rather than saying it is stupid before it is released?

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  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    That would work, if the very concept it was based on wasn't inherently flawed.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It's a safe bet that Brubaker will make Reborn fantastic, or at least good. And I have a feeling that the Jim Shooter beat-down stick will be used on Hytch so he doesn't delay it.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Ticaldfjam wrote: »
    I originally was a big Joey Q fan, but he has been in the "Vince McMahon" frame of mind for the past few months

    I never liked Quesada. But who are you kidding? When I got back into comics during Civil War he was already the Vince McMahon of comics.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    What makes them similar? Steroid abuse?

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    What makes them similar? Steroid abuse?

    The entire enterprise, the fictional world and the outside "real" stuff is all soap operatic spectacle to be exploited for more money.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Elite Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Would Jeph Loeb then be Owen Hart falling to his death then? I do know watching that PPV that was when I quit watching wrestling, even a teenager I realized "you can't keep going on when a guy just fell 200 ft onto the ring. Chyna couldn't even keep in character" And I think they even did a casket match that night as well. Just bizarre.

    And Tom Brevoort would be Jerry the King Lawler, always thinking McMahns shit doesn't stink, and Bendis would be Kane, and Brubaker would be Edge or Christian.....

    edit: fix'd wrestler, thanks blingston

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  • Blingston HughesBlingston Hughes Registered User
    edited June 2009
    I think you mean Owen.

    Bret's career just took a huge dump.

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Ticaldfjam wrote: »
    I originally was a big Joey Q fan, but he has been in the "Vince McMahon" frame of mind for the past few months at Marvel and its starting to get annoying. Hell, I thought Didio was batshit loco at times during Comic Con interviews in regards to explaining the Final Crisis mess to the public.

    And I agree about Brubaker being forced by the ego of Quesada to go through with this. The "Lets bring Steve back 6 months 616 time" does not scream Brubakerish at all.

    you know.

    that's probably nearly the exact opposite of what actually happened. and i guarantee you "the ego of Quesada" is non-existent in the actual editorial process.

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  • KidDorkKidDork Registered User
    edited June 2009
    I remember Quesada saying that Steve Rogers would not return to life while he was in charge of Marvel Comics back when he was first shot. So I'm assuming Joey Q will be resigning next month, because no one ever grandstands in comics like that. Ever.

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  • VirralVirral Registered User
    edited June 2009
    It would be interesting to see the actual quote of that.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Would Jeph Loeb then be Owen Hart falling to his death then?
    First of all, Jeph Loeb is always going to be the coolest kid in that Marvel writers' retreat conference room. He came from Hollywood. It's like inviting your awesome cousin from L.A. to hang out with you. He's from where they all want, or many at least and the rest just seem to be varying degrees of positive towards it, to be. If not for the economics (You read about a seven-figure bidding war for a Where's Waldo script if you're a writer and the fire it lights under your ass either burns your insides out or gets you fucking moving) then the relative prestige.

    It's an entertainment experience that they're selling, and we're part of it. All this *points around to GV* and all of the other forums, news sites, podcasts, creator sites and twitter nonsense, all that shit is part of the same concept: Keeping people talking about your product all the fucking time. It's actually a pretty novel concept. Joe Quesada runs Marvel like a permanent political campaign complete with exclusives, leaks, and so forth. But they've definitely engaged in a purposeful engagement of the fans that is still fairly unique within media. I mean, I've seen the same thing done in RPGs during the time I was into them and not reading comics, but they benefited from a smaller fanbase. But what has helped several of them, especially when the largest producer was actually being a dick towards its fans online until a decade ago, was that it was small and there was an engagement--an intentional one in the case of several companies--to a process similar to this. Pulling up online fans through the year into making the books has definitely made it worthwhile to get involved. And that's really the one thing that Marvel specifically has not done (although to be honest I'm in favor of this because Promoted Fanboys tend to be the worst kind of continuity whores, often to make up for actual writing talent) and has in fact come out, really, against when it decided last year to stop accepting blind submissions.

    But, yeah. It's an entertainment experience way beyond comics. It has to be to keep attentions, and it's useful to generate buzz when necessary (which is always) for a relative pittance in actual money expended.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Elite Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    New Issue of "Invincible" to be Super Popular and Beloved for Vague, Cryptic Reasons

    I have to hand it to Image, that's a good piss taking of Marvel.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    http://dcublog.dccomics.com/2009/06/18/some-news-for-you-robinson-bagley-step-aboard-justice-league-of-america/

    James Robinson and Mark Bagley are the new creative team for JLofA starting in October. Figures that a good artist would come on just as they sack McDuffie.

    And the first cover?
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    The League...passed out.

    Again.

    Frell.

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