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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    and yet now they are one of the most successful modern nations on the planet

    clearly the answer is to nuke Africa

    You do that and an entire generation of Kenyans are gonna grow up masturbating to comics of fourteen headed lions fucking women who look like 13 year old white girls.

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  • The Far SideThe Far Side __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Gafoto wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    and yet now they are one of the most successful modern nations on the planet

    clearly the answer is to nuke Africa

    You do that and an entire generation of Kenyans are gonna grow up masturbating to comics of fourteen headed lions fucking women who look like 13 year old white girls.
    and one of them might secretly become president :o

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  • laughingfuzzballlaughingfuzzball Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I read an interesting article on Ethiopia years ago that proposed that international aid was perpetuating starvation by easing immediate concerns to the point that it creates an increase in birth rates without providing the infrastructure to support the resulting population.

    In short, I'm with Monroe.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    In The Man In the High Castle the third reich exterminates all of Africa and makes the remaining negroes slaves

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    and yet now they are one of the most successful modern nations on the planet

    clearly the answer is to nuke Africa

    We might wipe out all sorts of nasty diseases in the process.
    Of course, we'll end up creating some new nasty bastard that wipes out the human race, but that's just our luck.

    Edit: Or maybe Karma for nuking Africa. One of those. Pick.

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    In The Man In the High Castle the third reich exterminates all of Africa and makes the remaining negroes slaves
    Europe did that in the 19th century.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    In The Man In the High Castle the third reich exterminates all of Africa and makes the remaining negroes slaves
    Europe did that in the 19th century.

    They didn't do a very good job

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Thawmus wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    and yet now they are one of the most successful modern nations on the planet

    clearly the answer is to nuke Africa

    We might wipe out all sorts of nasty diseases in the process.
    Of course, we'll end up creating some new nasty bastard that wipes out the human race, but that's just our luck.

    Edit: Or maybe Karma for nuking Africa. One of those. Pick.
    Pretty sure the nuclear fallout from nuking the entire continent would be karma enough.

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    No, the karma system doesn't come into play until after the game starts

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  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I read an interesting article on Ethiopia years ago that proposed that international aid was perpetuating starvation by easing immediate concerns to the point that it creates an increase in birth rates without providing the infrastructure to support the resulting population.

    In short, I'm with Monroe.

    This is pretty much it. All of the aid we are sending to Africa is only prolonging the problem since we are doing jack shit to put in place infrastructure for functioning countries. I mean there are other concerns that are preventing that from happening anyway ie: warlords.

    edit: there was something else important here that I was going to say, but I forget it.

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  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User
    edited June 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    There are no good guys
    There are no bad guys

    We'll never again have a war that is almost universally agreed to be necessary to stop the spread of real evil

    It's all just shades of gray in this world

    The unfortunate thing is that there never really has been. As someone who enjoys studying (fuck that comes off as pretentious but basically I read a lot of books about it, okay) the dubyadubya 2 as a hobby it was never as a black and white as it is remembered in the countries that won. It is however about as close as its gotten to good vs. evil.

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  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Ol' Sparky wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    There are no good guys
    There are no bad guys

    We'll never again have a war that is almost universally agreed to be necessary to stop the spread of real evil

    It's all just shades of gray in this world

    The unfortunate thing is that there never really has been. As someone who enjoys studying (fuck that comes off as pretentious but basically I read a lot of books about it, okay) the dubyadubya 2 as a hobby it was never as a black and white as it is remembered in the countries that won. It is however about as close as its gotten to good vs. evil.

    The principles were pretty black and white, the execution, not so much.

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  • laughingfuzzballlaughingfuzzball Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Artreus wrote: »
    I read an interesting article on Ethiopia years ago that proposed that international aid was perpetuating starvation by easing immediate concerns to the point that it creates an increase in birth rates without providing the infrastructure to support the resulting population.

    In short, I'm with Monroe.

    This is pretty much it. All of the aid we are sending to Africa is only prolonging the problem since we are doing jack shit to put in place infrastructure for functioning countries. I mean there are other concerns that are preventing that from happening anyway ie: warlords.

    Exactly.

    We'll reduce the population to levels sustainable with current infrastructure, then pull out all aid so that the birth rate remains more in line with the country's ability to sustain growth.

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  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Artreus wrote: »
    I read an interesting article on Ethiopia years ago that proposed that international aid was perpetuating starvation by easing immediate concerns to the point that it creates an increase in birth rates without providing the infrastructure to support the resulting population.

    In short, I'm with Monroe.

    This is pretty much it. All of the aid we are sending to Africa is only prolonging the problem since we are doing jack shit to put in place infrastructure for functioning countries. I mean there are other concerns that are preventing that from happening anyway ie: warlords.

    Exactly.

    We'll reduce the population to levels sustainable with current infrastructure, then pull out all aid so that the birth rate remains more in line with the country's ability to sustain growth.

    Er. I was agreeing with the assessment of the problem, not the solution. Although I'm pretty sure we are all joking here I am still uncomfortable with "olol nuke Africa"

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Artreus wrote: »
    I read an interesting article on Ethiopia years ago that proposed that international aid was perpetuating starvation by easing immediate concerns to the point that it creates an increase in birth rates without providing the infrastructure to support the resulting population.

    In short, I'm with Monroe.

    This is pretty much it. All of the aid we are sending to Africa is only prolonging the problem since we are doing jack shit to put in place infrastructure for functioning countries. I mean there are other concerns that are preventing that from happening anyway ie: warlords.

    Exactly.

    We'll reduce the population to levels sustainable with current infrastructure, then pull out all aid so that the birth rate remains more in line with the country's ability to sustain growth.

    I think we should pull out the aid before we do the population reduction. Just out of courtesy...

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  • laughingfuzzballlaughingfuzzball Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Artreus wrote: »
    Artreus wrote: »
    I read an interesting article on Ethiopia years ago that proposed that international aid was perpetuating starvation by easing immediate concerns to the point that it creates an increase in birth rates without providing the infrastructure to support the resulting population.

    In short, I'm with Monroe.

    This is pretty much it. All of the aid we are sending to Africa is only prolonging the problem since we are doing jack shit to put in place infrastructure for functioning countries. I mean there are other concerns that are preventing that from happening anyway ie: warlords.

    Exactly.

    We'll reduce the population to levels sustainable with current infrastructure, then pull out all aid so that the birth rate remains more in line with the country's ability to sustain growth.

    Er. I was agreeing with the assessment of the problem, not the solution. Although I'm pretty sure we are all joking here I am still uncomfortable with "olol nuke Africa"

    Oh yeah, I completely agree. That'd be unimaginable.

    We can't just throw out the whole continent because most of it needs a solution. We'll probably leave 20-30% of it standing.

    "Waste not, want not" and all that.

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  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User
    edited June 2009
    Artreus wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    There are no good guys
    There are no bad guys

    We'll never again have a war that is almost universally agreed to be necessary to stop the spread of real evil

    It's all just shades of gray in this world

    The vast majority of wars throughout history were of this sort. It's nothing new.

    Even most modern wars were like this. WWII was just such an extreme counterexample that it colors our perception of a just war nearly in the absolute.

    Even then, you have shit like the bombing of Dresden that makes you go ":(" again.

    The methods were somewhat ambiguous, but the causes were significantly less so. One both fronts, there was a clear aggressor without reasonable cause accompanied by inhumane behavior in the extreme.

    Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki play major roles in keeping it away from an absolutely black and white situation, but aren't nearly enough to make it nearly as gray as the norm.

    I suppose you're right when it comes to the practices of the war, and the common consensus is that Roosevelt, Churchill, and Truman bombed to bring an end to the war, not to exterminate the Italian, German, Japanese, Romanian nationalities. But there's also a whole lot that needs to be acknowledged more openly in regards to what the Western Allies wanted out of the war, and this often involved a whole lot of ethnic cleansing (in terms of population movement - not murder, of course), economic de facto imperialism and colonialism, screwing over lots of smaller groups in Europe and elsewhere - and not just Poland. And of course that's not even considering the atrocities the Red Army and NKVD committed simply marching into Germany, not to mention what happened in the occupation of Eastern Europe.

    Granted, none of it was done simply to exterminate peoples based on race, ethnicity, language, nationality, etc., and it was often on what was a smaller scale than what the Nazis did in Eastern Europe or the Japanese did in China and other locales in East Asia. But it all was pretty horrible, and often was motivated by greed and misinformation (i.e. early Cold War years) more than anything else. A good read on the subject of how much of a clusterfuck WWII was for everyone involved is The War of the World by Niall Ferguson, simply because he delves into a lot of material that is usually just simply ignored because the good guys won.

    And just to cover my own ass I'm not saying the Western Allies - and the USSR, because it was invaded, and it did take the brunt of Axis aggresion - weren't on some level fighting the good fight, but that there were a lot of other motives that need to acknowledged on a grand level.

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  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Hey guys remember the Spanish American War and the shit that followed it in the phillipenes? McKinley for president '12.

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  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User
    edited June 2009
    Man the Filipino-American War should be studied in every war college in countries where counter insurgency might be a thing

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Ol' Sparky wrote: »
    Man the Filipino-American War should be studied in every war college in countries where counter insurgency might be a thing

    and the IRA in Ireland, Algeria, Vietnam, Chechnya, Afghanistan in the 80s, and even the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka.

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  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User
    edited June 2009
    Well, yeah

    and the British in Malaya especially, considering they won pretty much hands down.

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  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    This is from Sullivan's The Atlantic column.
    Ahmadinejad called the opposition a bunch of insignificant dirt who try to make the taste of victory bitter to the nation. He also called the western leaders a bunch of 'filthy homosexuals'. All these disgusting remarks was today answered by that largest demonstration ever. All these disgusting remarks was today answered by that largest demonstration ever. Older people compared the demonstration of today with the Ashura Demonstration of 1979 which marks the downfall of the Shah regime and even said that it outnumbered that event.

    There's not really any fact checking going on here, though.

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  • JedocJedoc That citation you've neededRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    "You know how I know you're gay? You're the leader of a corrupt Western oligarchy."

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  • Run Run RunRun Run Run __BANNED USERS
    edited June 2009
    Man, when it comes to shitty nations we shouldn't forget Yemen.

    Fucking animals.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I assumed that article would be about them nailing yaks

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    In Yemen, the age of consent is 9

    :winky:
    D:

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Thats in yak years, though

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Coincidentally nine yak years is equal to 12 human years

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Me Too! wrote: »
    Coincidentally nine yak years is equal to 12 human years

    how would you even

    why would you even

    how does one go about calculating

    NYAAARGHGHAGAH

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I don't think he was actually doing yak-age calculations over there, dogg

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    somewhere a sixth grade math teacher is screaming 'SIMPLIFY'

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    God, I loathed that

    I can still barely perform that kind of simple math (because I am legally retarded)

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk00100&num=5058

    Kim-Jong Il really is an internet expert

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Me Too! wrote: »
    Coincidentally nine yak years is equal to 12 human years

    The age of consent in the Philippines is 12 human years

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    brb going to the philippines

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    SOCATOA

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Butters wrote: »
    SOHCAHTOA

    E: Factoring hectopascals!

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    What shitty eastasian nation is it that has the highest rate of prostitutes per capita

    Like 1:1000

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    What shitty eastasian nation is it that has the highest rate of prostitutes per capita

    Like 1:1000

    thailand?

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  • DragonicityDragonicity Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    That was my guess.

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