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edited June 2009
Also, thanks to CC for at least waiting to the last second to vote so that the baddies can't block the vote today
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El SkidThe frozen white northRegistered Userregular
edited June 2009
Also....*facepalm*. I've gotten a clarification from Edcrab that the arcadians can win together simply by killing off the baddies. Ask him yourself if you don't believe me. Or maybe Ed can post in the thread?.
Whatever. It's all up to Trust, now.
I wish I'd asked earlier so I could have told CC this. Or that CC had thought to ask himself
If El Skid is telling the truth and you are in fact the last psychic, then if you survive and El Skid dies everybody in the game completes their victory conditions except for the Domarians. That being the case you should vote for El Skid.
If El Skid is lying, then if you die everybody wins, except for the Domarians.
If El Skid is telling the truth and you are in fact the last psychic, then if you survive and El Skid dies everybody in the game completes their victory conditions except for the Domarians. That being the case you should vote for El Skid.
If El Skid is lying, then if you die everybody wins, except for the Domarians.
El Skid screw the Arcadian be with your psychic brethren. There are 3 of us psychics and one non psychic and one stupid robot thing. If you want more people to win then come with us. I know you aren't the last non-psychic and that !Trust is. Nice try though.
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edited June 2009
See? I have learned.
Noone ever take my advice, or believes I am telling the truth. So from now on, I'm totally going to just tell the bad guys the truth, and they'll never believe me!
Muahahahaa
Edit: Next game- You should definitely kill the guy that we know isn't evil rather than take a shot in the dark at one of the two unconfirmed people, Kime. Trust me
Well I know you aren't telling the truth because we could convert psychics to our side. Last night we targeted Trust and he wasn't converted so obviously you must be the psychic.
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Hey I thought you were a non psychic by your hard struggle to get the village to vote for me and saying there were more non psychics then converts. If you vote for Trust tonight, I can probably still get to convert you. It doesn't matter even if I can't because you will still win with us Psychics. Plus we don't want the dirty hating domarion psychic killers association to win, do we?
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edited June 2009
I will admit I have tried some deception in the past, but I'm totally ready to be honest with you now.
That said, I think I'm gonna have to stay with the vote on you, because of all the reasons I've already stated.
Besides, if I were to switch sides while unconverted now I would be causing all the villagers who died to lose. There would be so much grudging, whereas killing off the team who has neglected to convert me the whole game is hardly even grudge-worthy. Especially when I told you to do it when you had the chance
On the bright side, you'll still win if you have the ability to convert me tonight AND off Trust. I just don't think you can do that, given that there are only 2 of you left. Instead of like 5.
Hey I thought you were non-psychic okay. You did a good job convincing me! Well I guess if you aren't changing your vote, I guess the games over.
That is my sincere hope. I wouldn't put it past you to have another one-use thing up your sleeve that would allow you to win or cause a draw... You wouldn't wind me up like that, would you?
No more hidden cards, I think this day only exists for me to try to convince you to come to the Dark Side. Sure you don't want to change your mind? It'd be way cooler to win with us.
So we have 4 factions right now:
Domarions who want all psychics dead.
2 Disciples who want all non psychics dead.
1 non psychic who wants Disciples dead.
1 psychic who can win with anyone but the Domarions.
Disciples can convert Psychics each night and it failed on you Trust so barring some ridiculous thing, I assume you are the last non psychic. Therefore I'm trying to convince Skid? I don't know this game is ridiculous.
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Lol this is great. Everyone saying one thing in the thread, saying something else in PM's, and meaning a third thing entirely.
Can someone lay down my options and what the outcomes would be? I'm trying to look at who would win if I did what.
If we keep our votes on the bad guys, one dies to the vote and the robot eats the other and we win with the village. I don't think there's anything they can do to stop it.
Azn is hoping that the non-baddies have zero tricks left up their sleeves and that if they can vote out the remaining non-psychic then the baddies and/or psychics will win.
Right. My PM says I can win if either the renegade dies, or all non-psychics die.
Since the Renegade won, I can't take him down. However, there are still 2 of his disciples running around. Edcrab has said that killing them counts. Killing them wins for the village as a whole.
I could also go for the killing the non psychics, allowing for the secondary condition. Trouble is, that allows a shared village/mafia victory, if I understand it correctly. Should I kill an innocent to allow a partial mafia victory?
And then there are the Domarions. Well, one big robot thing anyway. They want all psychics dead, but can't win because they can't kill all the psychics before another faction achieves their win condition.
I think we need Edcrab to answer some questions before this gets any less complicated.
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edited June 2009
Actually, the Domarions only need the baddies dead. They can happily win with you and/or I, short of last-second conversion.
I could also go for the killing the non psychics, allowing for the secondary condition. Trouble is, that allows a shared village/mafia victory, if I understand it correctly. Should I kill an innocent to allow a partial mafia victory?
Well if you are the psychic, yes.
I guess my conversion was guarded or busdrivered last night? sigh
I could also go for the killing the non psychics, allowing for the secondary condition. Trouble is, that allows a shared village/mafia victory, if I understand it correctly. Should I kill an innocent to allow a partial mafia victory?
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You will probably not be able to do that, just FYI.
Actually, the Domarions only need the baddies dead. They can happily win with you and/or I, short of last-second conversion.
What makes you think this?
They are here to kill all Psychics. Edcrabs clarification said all ARCADIANS can win by killing the remaining disciples. Arcadians do not equal Domarions.
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I could also go for the killing the non psychics, allowing for the secondary condition. Trouble is, that allows a shared village/mafia victory, if I understand it correctly. Should I kill an innocent to allow a partial mafia victory?
Well if you are the psychic, yes.
I guess my conversion was guarded or busdrivered last night? sigh
It's...it's like magic. The words pass from my lips and are immediately converted into some sort of...of... non-believable buzzing which barely registers on people's minds.
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Whatever. It's all up to Trust, now.
I wish I'd asked earlier so I could have told CC this. Or that CC had thought to ask himself
Way for that clarification to come in after the bad guys killed me.
Why meeeeeeeeeeee? I was too young and pretty to die!
ooOooOooOoo
Because, you see, I'm totally not psychic. But Trust is. That's why we're still playing.
*gkht!*
Anyways, aznman, of course.
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So who should I vote for?
Vote azn.
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Aznman!
If El Skid is telling the truth and you are in fact the last psychic, then if you survive and El Skid dies everybody in the game completes their victory conditions except for the Domarians. That being the case you should vote for El Skid.
If El Skid is lying, then if you die everybody wins, except for the Domarians.
So, !IamtheAznman then?
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things to say I have
OoooOOooO
Noone ever take my advice, or believes I am telling the truth. So from now on, I'm totally going to just tell the bad guys the truth, and they'll never believe me!
Muahahahaa
Edit: Next game- You should definitely kill the guy that we know isn't evil rather than take a shot in the dark at one of the two unconfirmed people, Kime. Trust me
Why can noone else see how this works?
That said, I think I'm gonna have to stay with the vote on you, because of all the reasons I've already stated.
Besides, if I were to switch sides while unconverted now I would be causing all the villagers who died to lose. There would be so much grudging, whereas killing off the team who has neglected to convert me the whole game is hardly even grudge-worthy. Especially when I told you to do it when you had the chance
On the bright side, you'll still win if you have the ability to convert me tonight AND off Trust. I just don't think you can do that, given that there are only 2 of you left. Instead of like 5.
That is my sincere hope. I wouldn't put it past you to have another one-use thing up your sleeve that would allow you to win or cause a draw... You wouldn't wind me up like that, would you?
This day is perhaps the awesome-est day in phalla. Ever.
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edit: Maybe you should try to convert Trust again. Instead of...you know. Converting me.
Wait, I'm confused. Am I supposed to be telling you the truth by your PoV or the villages? I'll think about that and get back to you.
Ummmm..... Are you sure about all that?
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Can someone lay down my options and what the outcomes would be? I'm trying to look at who would win if I did what.
Smile, nod, and keep your vote where it is. The last two Disciples are outed.
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Domarions who want all psychics dead.
2 Disciples who want all non psychics dead.
1 non psychic who wants Disciples dead.
1 psychic who can win with anyone but the Domarions.
Disciples can convert Psychics each night and it failed on you Trust so barring some ridiculous thing, I assume you are the last non psychic. Therefore I'm trying to convince Skid? I don't know this game is ridiculous.
If we keep our votes on the bad guys, one dies to the vote and the robot eats the other and we win with the village. I don't think there's anything they can do to stop it.
Azn is hoping that the non-baddies have zero tricks left up their sleeves and that if they can vote out the remaining non-psychic then the baddies and/or psychics will win.
Since the Renegade won, I can't take him down. However, there are still 2 of his disciples running around. Edcrab has said that killing them counts. Killing them wins for the village as a whole.
I could also go for the killing the non psychics, allowing for the secondary condition. Trouble is, that allows a shared village/mafia victory, if I understand it correctly. Should I kill an innocent to allow a partial mafia victory?
And then there are the Domarions. Well, one big robot thing anyway. They want all psychics dead, but can't win because they can't kill all the psychics before another faction achieves their win condition.
I think we need Edcrab to answer some questions before this gets any less complicated.
Well if you are the psychic, yes.
I guess my conversion was guarded or busdrivered last night? sigh
You will probably not be able to do that, just FYI.
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What makes you think this?
They are here to kill all Psychics. Edcrabs clarification said all ARCADIANS can win by killing the remaining disciples. Arcadians do not equal Domarions.
It's...it's like magic. The words pass from my lips and are immediately converted into some sort of...of... non-believable buzzing which barely registers on people's minds.
I happily wait for next year's phalla awards.