I am saying that a warrior , even at level 30, isn't missing much by wearing clothy shoulders as opposed to mail. it's not that big of a dps difference because shoulders are nonexistent/weak for the pre40 levels
Oh, I thought you were talking about the exp gain.
yea, thats my point.
Who cares about stats, I am in it for plus xp!
also the shoulders I am using (cloth) are the PVP ones, which actually aren't too bad for a paladin.
I am saying that a warrior , even at level 30, isn't missing much by wearing clothy shoulders as opposed to mail. it's not that big of a dps difference because shoulders are nonexistent/weak for the pre40 levels
Oh, I thought you were talking about the exp gain.
yea, thats my point.
Who cares about stats, I am in it for plus xp!
also the shoulders I am using (cloth) are the PVP ones, which actually aren't too bad for a paladin.
worse come to worst, you have a full-clothy warrior swinging at spellcasters
i mean if you throw a crusader's/fiery/lifestealing aura on a weapon you shouldn't be having much a problem
I am saying that a warrior , even at level 30, isn't missing much by wearing clothy shoulders as opposed to mail. it's not that big of a dps difference because shoulders are nonexistent/weak for the pre40 levels
Oh, I thought you were talking about the exp gain.
yea, thats my point.
Who cares about stats, I am in it for plus xp!
also the shoulders I am using (cloth) are the PVP ones, which actually aren't too bad for a paladin.
worse come to worst, you have a full-clothy warrior swinging at spellcasters
i mean if you throw a crusader's/fiery/lifestealing aura on a weapon you shouldn't be having much a problem
Yea, the Heirloom reaper has Crusader on it. And again, the pvp cloth shoulders have stamina, crit and resil on them.
I am saying that a warrior , even at level 30, isn't missing much by wearing clothy shoulders as opposed to mail. it's not that big of a dps difference because shoulders are nonexistent/weak for the pre40 levels
This is why MY warrior rolls in Heirloom Only.
Heirloom Shoulders
Heirloom Arcanite Reaper
Heirloom Bow
Heirloom Haste Trinket (soon to be a pair)
Heirloom Chestpiece (appropriate emblems saved up)
I am going to alt the FUCK out of 3.2
now they say that the % stack, so this is my question
assume you're not rested, so you get 100% experience
with on heirloom, it's 100%x1.1 = 110%
no, is the second hearloom 100%x1.1x1.1 =121%
or is the second heirloom just 100%x1.2 = 1.20%
not much of a difference, but certainly makes a difference with multiple heirlooms
5 heirlooms: 150% vs 162%
I think your math is correct. Regardless. the heirlooms also allow me to just tear through shit and not worry about replacing gear until I hit 80 someday.
I am saying that a warrior , even at level 30, isn't missing much by wearing clothy shoulders as opposed to mail. it's not that big of a dps difference because shoulders are nonexistent/weak for the pre40 levels
Oh, I thought you were talking about the exp gain.
yea, thats my point.
Who cares about stats, I am in it for plus xp!
also the shoulders I am using (cloth) are the PVP ones, which actually aren't too bad for a paladin.
worse come to worst, you have a full-clothy warrior swinging at spellcasters
i mean if you throw a crusader's/fiery/lifestealing aura on a weapon you shouldn't be having much a problem
Yea, the Heirloom reaper has Crusader on it. And again, the pvp cloth shoulders have stamina, crit and resil on them.
Stats everyone wants anyway.
i'm wondering if lifestealing is better for less downtime, how does the healing vs damage compare?
What do the Heirloom chests look like or are named after?
One of them better be Argual's robe because it's one of the better cloth robes at 23-35 to have
I am saying that a warrior , even at level 30, isn't missing much by wearing clothy shoulders as opposed to mail. it's not that big of a dps difference because shoulders are nonexistent/weak for the pre40 levels
Oh, I thought you were talking about the exp gain.
yea, thats my point.
Who cares about stats, I am in it for plus xp!
also the shoulders I am using (cloth) are the PVP ones, which actually aren't too bad for a paladin.
worse come to worst, you have a full-clothy warrior swinging at spellcasters
i mean if you throw a crusader's/fiery/lifestealing aura on a weapon you shouldn't be having much a problem
Yea, the Heirloom reaper has Crusader on it. And again, the pvp cloth shoulders have stamina, crit and resil on them.
Stats everyone wants anyway.
i'm wondering if lifestealing is better for less downtime, how does the healing vs damage compare?
Funny you ask, I actually put FOUR enchants on the Reaper. Unholy, Demonbane, Lifestealing, and Crusader.
Lifestealing heals for much less, but it procs...more? Like It was a +45 heal proc every couple of swings, but I really really liked crusader better...the strength proc part of it is just so much better.
Crusader procs less often but heals more AND has strength (AND a cool proc graphic as well!)
Unholy...was for looks...?
Crusader is best, unless you are like ahunter or something.
What do the Heirloom chests look like or are named after?
One of them better be Argual's robe because it's one of the better cloth robes at 23-35 to have
No, they continue the Dungeon set 1 stuff.
Robes are warlock robes. (Good for my alt warlock!)
What are the costs of the new heirlooms being added in 3.2 anyway? Are they just badges (Good) or are they bought with champions seals (horrible) or even worse, stuck on the vendor you can only access with the Crusader title (akin to a hatecrime) or Sunreaver/Silver Covenant exalted (should be prosecuted in the hague)?
I am saying that a warrior , even at level 30, isn't missing much by wearing clothy shoulders as opposed to mail. it's not that big of a dps difference because shoulders are nonexistent/weak for the pre40 levels
This is why MY warrior rolls in Heirloom Only.
Heirloom Shoulders
Heirloom Arcanite Reaper
Heirloom Bow
Heirloom Haste Trinket (soon to be a pair)
Heirloom Chestpiece (appropriate emblems saved up)
I am going to alt the FUCK out of 3.2
now they say that the % stack, so this is my question
assume you're not rested, so you get 100% experience
with on heirloom, it's 100%x1.1 = 110%
so, is the second hearloom 100%x1.1x1.1 =121%
or is the second heirloom just 100%x1.2 = 1.20%
not much of a difference, but certainly makes a difference with multiple heirlooms
5 heirlooms: 150% vs 162%
I think your math is correct. Regardless. the heirlooms also allow me to just tear through shit and not worry about replacing gear until I hit 80 someday.
in essence, I just asked "Is it cumulative or does it add?"
and you said
"you are correct"
Get 10 day resurrection from friend: Check
Level my Paladin from 70 to 80: Check
Do Storm Peaks quests: Check
Do Hyldnir Spoils Daily quest once: Check
Get Polar Bear mount: Check
Oh yeah, I went there.
that is like rolling a d100 and getting a 100 the first time
i'm aware a d100 is like a golfball
Haha, I also got "Greedy" on my first greed roll in an instance at 80 today as well.
edit: and remembered when I leveled my DK (last thing I did before I stopped playing last year) I got the Frenzyheart morph from the first weekly potion or whatever it is.
What are the costs of the new heirlooms being added in 3.2 anyway? Are they just badges (Good) or are they bought with champions seals (horrible) or even worse, stuck on the vendor you can only access with the Crusader title (akin to a hatecrime) or Sunreaver/Silver Covenant exalted (should be prosecuted in the hague)?
Happy: My guild did it's first one night Naxx 25 clear.
Hate: We weren't in Uld because our better tanks have disappeared.
Silly: We had one wipe because we decided to just say fuck it and do Gothick with all live side. DPS (and myself as a healer) freaked out when the gates opened (In my case for some reason I thought it would happen after we started fighting Gothick himself) so AoE started early and people died. We smash records on a lot of our kills, and got close to speed kill achievements while still being down at least one DPS on several fights.
What are the costs of the new heirlooms being added in 3.2 anyway? Are they just badges (Good) or are they bought with champions seals (horrible) or even worse, stuck on the vendor you can only access with the Crusader title (akin to a hatecrime) or Sunreaver/Silver Covenant exalted (should be prosecuted in the hague)?
WoWWiki has Chests for 60 Champion seals from Dame Evniki Kapsalis your friendly neighborhood <Crusader> title Vendor!
What are the costs of the new heirlooms being added in 3.2 anyway? Are they just badges (Good) or are they bought with champions seals (horrible) or even worse, stuck on the vendor you can only access with the Crusader title (akin to a hatecrime) or Sunreaver/Silver Covenant exalted (should be prosecuted in the hague)?
WoWWiki has Chests for 60 Champion seals from Dame Evniki Kapsalis your friendly neighborhood <Crusader> title Vendor!
What are the costs of the new heirlooms being added in 3.2 anyway? Are they just badges (Good) or are they bought with champions seals (horrible) or even worse, stuck on the vendor you can only access with the Crusader title (akin to a hatecrime) or Sunreaver/Silver Covenant exalted (should be prosecuted in the hague)?
WoWWiki has Chests for 60 Champion seals from Dame Evniki Kapsalis your friendly neighborhood <Crusader> title Vendor!
Well guess none of my characters are getting any chestpieces then!
What are the costs of the new heirlooms being added in 3.2 anyway? Are they just badges (Good) or are they bought with champions seals (horrible) or even worse, stuck on the vendor you can only access with the Crusader title (akin to a hatecrime) or Sunreaver/Silver Covenant exalted (should be prosecuted in the hague)?
WoWWiki has Chests for 60 Champion seals from Dame Evniki Kapsalis your friendly neighborhood <Crusader> title Vendor!
Well guess none of my characters are getting any chestpieces then!
if you choose the bags of cash, the later argent dailies are some of the best dailies out there, paying 23g per daily plus a chance of a champion seal, not bad
I believe the new Crusaders' Coliseum 5-man will also award/drop Champion's Seals, which may be an alternative.
the seals aren't as big a deal as the exalted rep, i think, do either of these have a rep tabard?
edit: oh argent crusade does, nice
edit: i wish you could /duel a real opponent for *something*
jump turning "pwns"
when i have a good connection, i can beat 4 champions in a row without them taking down even one of my shield icons once, but here i am again skilled at something I can't get anything out of /boo
(more impressive than this i think is beating 4 champions at all when you have a red connection, that shit is retarded)
Hate: The only way to get Crusader is to be an Exalted Champion with every faction. Which leaves me a bit short since I'm halfway through revered with Silvermoon and already a Champion of said faction. So now I need spend a couple of weeks of grabbing the turn-in tokens and then go do the Ghostlands quests. Oh well, could be worse, right?
I believe the new Crusaders' Coliseum 5-man will also award/drop Champion's Seals, which may be an alternative.
the seals aren't as big a deal as the exalted rep, i think, do either of these have a rep tabard?
edit: oh argent crusade does, nice
edit: i wish you could /duel a real opponent for *something*
jump turning "pwns"
when i have a good connection, i can beat 4 champions in a row without them taking down even one of my shield icons once, but here i am again skilled at something I can't get anything out of /boo
(more impressive than this i think is beating 4 champions at all when you have a red connection, that shit is retarded)
I deliberately time doing the jousting dailies so that it is nowhere near the same time as the WG battle. Server lag goes to shit then and I get to deal with teleporting champions and the mysterious "gnome champion halfway across the jousting zone but still too close to use shieldbreaker on."
I am going to have to have exalted with all the old world factions just to get the heirloom chest that I would use to level?
What a terrible terrible decision.
ugh this sucks
i am like 1000 rep into revered with gnomeregan
maybe i'll work on this after i get my druid to 80 and have a bunch of epics on my druid/hunter, because right now my hunter only has like 3
I am saying that a warrior , even at level 30, isn't missing much by wearing clothy shoulders as opposed to mail. it's not that big of a dps difference because shoulders are nonexistent/weak for the pre40 levels
This is why MY warrior rolls in Heirloom Only.
Heirloom Shoulders
Heirloom Arcanite Reaper
Heirloom Bow
Heirloom Haste Trinket (soon to be a pair)
Heirloom Chestpiece (appropriate emblems saved up)
I am going to alt the FUCK out of 3.2
now they say that the % stack, so this is my question
assume you're not rested, so you get 100% experience
with on heirloom, it's 100%x1.1 = 110%
so, is the second hearloom 100%x1.1x1.1 =121%
or is the second heirloom just 100%x1.2 = 1.20%
not much of a difference, but certainly makes a difference with multiple heirlooms
5 heirlooms: 150% vs 162%
I think your math is correct. Regardless. the heirlooms also allow me to just tear through shit and not worry about replacing gear until I hit 80 someday.
in essence, I just asked "Is it cumulative or does it add?"
and you said
"you are correct"
o.O?
From what I've read, it's cumulative.
And sadly, only the shoulders and chest give the +10% xp boost, not all 5.
I am saying that a warrior , even at level 30, isn't missing much by wearing clothy shoulders as opposed to mail. it's not that big of a dps difference because shoulders are nonexistent/weak for the pre40 levels
This is why MY warrior rolls in Heirloom Only.
Heirloom Shoulders
Heirloom Arcanite Reaper
Heirloom Bow
Heirloom Haste Trinket (soon to be a pair)
Heirloom Chestpiece (appropriate emblems saved up)
I am going to alt the FUCK out of 3.2
now they say that the % stack, so this is my question
assume you're not rested, so you get 100% experience
with on heirloom, it's 100%x1.1 = 110%
so, is the second hearloom 100%x1.1x1.1 =121%
or is the second heirloom just 100%x1.2 = 1.20%
not much of a difference, but certainly makes a difference with multiple heirlooms
5 heirlooms: 150% vs 162%
I think your math is correct. Regardless. the heirlooms also allow me to just tear through shit and not worry about replacing gear until I hit 80 someday.
in essence, I just asked "Is it cumulative or does it add?"
and you said
"you are correct"
o.O?
From what I've read, it's cumulative.
And sadly, only the shoulders and chest give the +10% xp boost, not all 5.
yeah i later realized this, on the brightside you're getting an additional 1%
I bet the tears (rightfully) from DKs will make Blizzard not put it on the Crusader vender. I hope...
i mean, heirloom pieces are a pretty big deal, i understand making them hard to get. But having a "Crusader" title? Few people i see even have exalted. it's just retarded
maybe having to be exalted with argent crusade, that's all dandy and makes sense, but gnomeregan? fuck you
Hate, hate, hate hate, hate: Class envy; I has it.
Right now I'm playing all four tank classes at 80 when really I don't have time to commit to one character well enough to raid regularly let alone attempting with four.
Decide on one character and stick with him, you asshole.
You'd probably spend more time getting crusader that you'd save with the heirloom gear anyway.
Which is my point.
I don't know, it takes me roughly 20 minutes now to do the full argent tournament alone with my DK, still with Darnassus left Valiant, and then I can log off or do something else.
It's the easiest rep, gold and currency items out there.
Why
I get a group on my warrior for Ahune for Normal
Everyone but a blood elf paladin is 80 most of them have raid gear
AND THEY FAIL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO
Twice the troll death knight attacks ahune while the big elemental tears into everyone sigh
On our regular Ahune runs I just run around dealing with the adds and let the others do whatever they want. Trying to keep Divine Plea rolling through the fight makes it fun enough.
Hate, hate, hate hate, hate: Class envy; I has it.
Right now I'm playing all four tank classes at 80 when really I don't have time to commit to one character well enough to raid regularly let alone attempting with four.
Decide on one character and stick with him, you asshole.
are... are you talking to yourself?
if so, i'd go with whatever you find to be the most fun to tank with
if they're pretty much even, go with whatever is the best geared
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Oh, I thought you were talking about the exp gain.
yea, thats my point.
Who cares about stats, I am in it for plus xp!
also the shoulders I am using (cloth) are the PVP ones, which actually aren't too bad for a paladin.
worse come to worst, you have a full-clothy warrior swinging at spellcasters
i mean if you throw a crusader's/fiery/lifestealing aura on a weapon you shouldn't be having much a problem
Yea, the Heirloom reaper has Crusader on it. And again, the pvp cloth shoulders have stamina, crit and resil on them.
Stats everyone wants anyway.
I think your math is correct. Regardless. the heirlooms also allow me to just tear through shit and not worry about replacing gear until I hit 80 someday.
ALSO- Have never made my HAPPY: known for the argent tourney and the coliseum. Love the Argent EVERYTHING.
My Dwarf priest loves his squire....
Wait...
i'm wondering if lifestealing is better for less downtime, how does the healing vs damage compare?
One of them better be Argual's robe because it's one of the better cloth robes at 23-35 to have
Funny you ask, I actually put FOUR enchants on the Reaper. Unholy, Demonbane, Lifestealing, and Crusader.
Lifestealing heals for much less, but it procs...more? Like It was a +45 heal proc every couple of swings, but I really really liked crusader better...the strength proc part of it is just so much better.
Crusader procs less often but heals more AND has strength (AND a cool proc graphic as well!)
Unholy...was for looks...?
Crusader is best, unless you are like ahunter or something.
No, they continue the Dungeon set 1 stuff.
Robes are warlock robes. (Good for my alt warlock!)
in essence, I just asked "Is it cumulative or does it add?"
and you said
"you are correct"
o.O?
Haha, I also got "Greedy" on my first greed roll in an instance at 80 today as well.
edit: and remembered when I leveled my DK (last thing I did before I stopped playing last year) I got the Frenzyheart morph from the first weekly potion or whatever it is.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Heirloom
scroll down for all your information needs
tl;dr champion seals
additional question - what weapon is usable by the largest number of classes, daggers, staves?
Hate: We weren't in Uld because our better tanks have disappeared.
Silly: We had one wipe because we decided to just say fuck it and do Gothick with all live side. DPS (and myself as a healer) freaked out when the gates opened (In my case for some reason I thought it would happen after we started fighting Gothick himself) so AoE started early and people died. We smash records on a lot of our kills, and got close to speed kill achievements while still being down at least one DPS on several fights.
WoWWiki has Chests for 60 Champion seals from Dame Evniki Kapsalis your friendly neighborhood <Crusader> title Vendor!
Well guess none of my characters are getting any chestpieces then!
if you choose the bags of cash, the later argent dailies are some of the best dailies out there, paying 23g per daily plus a chance of a champion seal, not bad
the seals aren't as big a deal as the exalted rep, i think, do either of these have a rep tabard?
edit: oh argent crusade does, nice
edit: i wish you could /duel a real opponent for *something*
jump turning "pwns"
when i have a good connection, i can beat 4 champions in a row without them taking down even one of my shield icons once, but here i am again skilled at something I can't get anything out of /boo
(more impressive than this i think is beating 4 champions at all when you have a red connection, that shit is retarded)
What a terrible terrible decision.
I deliberately time doing the jousting dailies so that it is nowhere near the same time as the WG battle. Server lag goes to shit then and I get to deal with teleporting champions and the mysterious "gnome champion halfway across the jousting zone but still too close to use shieldbreaker on."
ugh this sucks
i am like 1000 rep into revered with gnomeregan
maybe i'll work on this after i get my druid to 80 and have a bunch of epics on my druid/hunter, because right now my hunter only has like 3
From what I've read, it's cumulative.
And sadly, only the shoulders and chest give the +10% xp boost, not all 5.
on the downside exalted with EVERYTHING
i mean, heirloom pieces are a pretty big deal, i understand making them hard to get. But having a "Crusader" title? Few people i see even have exalted. it's just retarded
maybe having to be exalted with argent crusade, that's all dandy and makes sense, but gnomeregan? fuck you
NEW HATE
It's not that hard. Do the starting areas for your factions and farm some runecloth.
Which is my point.
Right now I'm playing all four tank classes at 80 when really I don't have time to commit to one character well enough to raid regularly let alone attempting with four.
Decide on one character and stick with him, you asshole.
I don't know, it takes me roughly 20 minutes now to do the full argent tournament alone with my DK, still with Darnassus left Valiant, and then I can log off or do something else.
It's the easiest rep, gold and currency items out there.
On our regular Ahune runs I just run around dealing with the adds and let the others do whatever they want. Trying to keep Divine Plea rolling through the fight makes it fun enough.
are... are you talking to yourself?
if so, i'd go with whatever you find to be the most fun to tank with
if they're pretty much even, go with whatever is the best geared