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How many people tend to work on a traditional comic book? Inker + line drawing + color + writer, for what, like 20 pages a month? I'm curious to know what it would take if PA decided that they wanted to do one of these full time instead of/with a 3 panel strip.
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How many people tend to work on a traditional comic book? Inker + line drawing + color + writer, for what, like 20 pages a month? I'm curious to know what it would take if PA decided that they wanted to do one of these full time instead of/with a 3 panel strip.
Writer, letters, art, inking, colors, and an editing team for 24 pages monthly
I'm not trying to think of ways to make money. I'm just a greedy bastard and want a direct tap into the PA brain so we can read these stories without having to wait for the time it takes for the mechanical writing and drawing to take place. With no loss in quality. And a pony.
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I am speechless following the appearance of both Automata and Lookouts. I want to see them both! Please do both. And please, also, blow my mind with the 3rd in the series?
This one's neat but I still think Lookout's is the winner. It had a luminous quality to it - the art, the writing, the poignancy - that just resonated. Resonated is precisely the right word.
This is cool. I especially like the black & white. But you know, I think it does lack heart.
(Incidentally, is there an archive of old comic threads or do they just fall down the page here when the new comic goes up?)
I'm not trying to think of ways to make money. I'm just a greedy bastard and want a direct tap into the PA brain so we can read these stories without having to wait for the time it takes for the mechanical writing and drawing to take place. With no loss in quality. And a pony.
No I mean it's expensive to publish comics which lessens the likelihood of it
I'm not trying to think of ways to make money. I'm just a greedy bastard and want a direct tap into the PA brain so we can read these stories without having to wait for the time it takes for the mechanical writing and drawing to take place. With no loss in quality. And a pony.
No I mean it's expensive to publish comics which lessens the likelihood of it
It's clearly never going to happen at all. That's why I'm proposing brain surgery. :P
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I would think that in the fullness of time they would come back to whichever two aren't selected since it's something (at least according to the news posts) they seem to want to do. It might be a while, but I think it would happen.
I base this on my close personal knowledge of the two that I do not have.
The newspost today by Tycho is pretty great. The coming months are gonna be pretty awesome, from the sounds of it. Lots of little projects on the horizon.
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I far prefer this to the Lookouts. While Lookouts seemed fine, it felt like well-trod territory for the Duo.
This feels new, fresh, foreign. As a "world that doesn't fall apart", I think this alternate-reality Early Americana + Robots has gobs of potential. I want to learn more about this new world; with the Lookouts, I feel like I've already been there a thousand times.
Yeah. I think there's a lot more *potential* in Automata. Lookouts, while awesome, is basically going to be the same feeling/style as the Deep Crow arc.
See, this is where I disagree. Robot vs. human "what is real?" has been done to DEATH, primarily in media other than comics, but all those stories have been told.
From the same angle though, you could say Lookouts = The Hardy Boys + D&D.
Within the Penny-Arcade world, there hasn't been much robot stuff(unless you count RSPOD).
Cory Doctorow has this great quote where he compares identifying the theme of a story to dissecting it. You've got the essence, but none of the life. Fuck themes, and fuck "done to death". The only thing that matters is the execution, and automata is more solid than lookouts so far.
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The newspost today by Tycho is pretty great. The coming months are gonna be pretty awesome, from the sounds of it. Lots of little projects on the horizon.
yeah, his enthusiasm for these projects they can't show us yet is fantastic
he's just chomping at the bit to show us what other stuff they're working on
If you'll pardon the choice of words, I feel the lookouts story a bit better than this one. Lookouts comes off as an Eterian Odyssey-esc tale mixed with Boy Scout flavours and potential for child death which is rare in these hard economical times and certainly has more pitch than most.
This one sounds good but it's also incredibly drab, I understand it's appropriate to the theme but...eh...could I stand black+white+scant colours here and there for it's run?
Yeah. I think there's a lot more *potential* in Automata. Lookouts, while awesome, is basically going to be the same feeling/style as the Deep Crow arc.
See, this is where I disagree. Robot vs. human "what is real?" has been done to DEATH, primarily in media other than comics, but all those stories have been told.
From the same angle though, you could say Lookouts = The Hardy Boys + D&D.
Within the Penny-Arcade world, there hasn't been much robot stuff(unless you count RSPOD).
Cory Doctorow has this great quote where he compares identifying the theme of a story to dissecting it. You've got the essence, but none of the life. Fuck themes, and fuck "done to death". The only thing that matters is the execution, and automata is more solid than lookouts so far.
orik I like you lots
10 internet dollars to the man who brings me his head! ...I mean, this quote!
You're gonna have to update your sig to "Indie Games"
I've been reading science fiction for a long time, lots of robot stories, lots of worlds where robots are hated. Nothing has ever sounded as true or as right as "No Heart, No Soul, No Service". Right now, Zombie Isaac Asimov is working his way out of the grave to come and bow before Tycho.
Oh, and "Lookouts" was fcking awesome, too. Jim Darkmagic didn't sound all that great to me at first, but now, I'm guessing it's gonna rock ass too.
Yeah. I think there's a lot more *potential* in Automata. Lookouts, while awesome, is basically going to be the same feeling/style as the Deep Crow arc.
See, this is where I disagree. Robot vs. human "what is real?" has been done to DEATH, primarily in media other than comics, but all those stories have been told.
From the same angle though, you could say Lookouts = The Hardy Boys + D&D.
Within the Penny-Arcade world, there hasn't been much robot stuff(unless you count RSPOD).
Cory Doctorow has this great quote where he compares identifying the theme of a story to dissecting it. You've got the essence, but none of the life. Fuck themes, and fuck "done to death". The only thing that matters is the execution, and automata is more solid than lookouts so far.
orik I like you lots
10 internet dollars to the man who brings me his head! ...I mean, this quote!
From the introduction to Eastern Standard Tribe:
The difference between Chinese medicine and Western medicine is the dissection versus the observation of the thing in motion. The difference between reading a story and studying a story is the difference between living the story and killing the story and looking at its guts.
School! We sat in English class and we dissected the stories that I'd escaped into, laid open their abdomens and tagged their organs, covered their genitals with polite sterile drapes, recorded dutiful notes *en masse* that told us what the story was about, but never what the story *was*. Stories are propaganda, virii that slide past your critical immune system and insert themselves directly into your emotions. Kill them and cut them open and they're as naked as a nightclub in daylight.
The theme. The first step in dissecting a story is euthanizing it: "What is the theme of this story?"
Let me kill my story before I start it, so that I can dissect it and understand it. The theme of this story is: "Would you rather be smart or happy?"
This is a work of propaganda. It's a story about choosing smarts over happiness. Except if I give the pencil a push: then it's a story about choosing happiness over smarts. It's a morality play, and the first character is about to take the stage. He's a foil for the theme, so he's drawn in simple lines. Here he is:
Wow, this is really good. Sort of "The Watchmen" meets "I Robot". So far, this one totally gets my vote. I signed up for the forum just to vote for this and saw this "[more]" on the side - just for a second I thought, "More Automata? YES!" But it is just more smileys.
Please more Automata. I will be your man slave. But don't tell my wife.
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Swangee, s. m. An actor, a mimick.
Writer, letters, art, inking, colors, and an editing team for 24 pages monthly
Some dudes combine stuff some don't
Either way no way
Sure, but just in terms of logistics, what does it take to make a full time comic? I'm curious, does anyone know?
Edit: Already answered. Sigh, a man can dream.
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yeah, I don't think they really need a "big publishing house" by now, seriously.
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It's just
I hope you can renew that
I'm not trying to think of ways to make money. I'm just a greedy bastard and want a direct tap into the PA brain so we can read these stories without having to wait for the time it takes for the mechanical writing and drawing to take place. With no loss in quality. And a pony.
3clipse: The key to any successful marriage is a good mid-game transition.
Won't you?
Thanks!
This is cool. I especially like the black & white. But you know, I think it does lack heart.
(Incidentally, is there an archive of old comic threads or do they just fall down the page here when the new comic goes up?)
No I mean it's expensive to publish comics which lessens the likelihood of it
The way things are now, I wish they would. Deciding this is going to be tough.
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It's clearly never going to happen at all. That's why I'm proposing brain surgery. :P
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Thought he was going to keep it to elves and dwarfs and shit, but this actually looks relevant to my tastes.
I base this on my close personal knowledge of the two that I do not have.
This feels new, fresh, foreign. As a "world that doesn't fall apart", I think this alternate-reality Early Americana + Robots has gobs of potential. I want to learn more about this new world; with the Lookouts, I feel like I've already been there a thousand times.
edit: not to say it's bad, but i feel their forte is more in a modern setting.
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Sparkeasies?
10 internet dollars to the man who brings me his head! ...I mean, this quote!
he's just chomping at the bit to show us what other stuff they're working on
This one sounds good but it's also incredibly drab, I understand it's appropriate to the theme but...eh...could I stand black+white+scant colours here and there for it's run?
Crime-Noir?
Glorious. Simply glorious.
That's pretty racist.
You're gonna have to update your sig to "Indie Games"
Oh, and "Lookouts" was fcking awesome, too. Jim Darkmagic didn't sound all that great to me at first, but now, I'm guessing it's gonna rock ass too.
From the introduction to Eastern Standard Tribe:
Please more Automata. I will be your man slave. But don't tell my wife.