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[ PROTOTYPE ] - Rainbows and Unicorns on pg. 69.

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    RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    5 more WoI Targets to go and 2 more bloody free running mission to finish. I think i've learnt a fair bit about the finer points of controlling Alex from those missions but i still can't bring myself to actually enjoy most of them.

    Does anybody have any advice for Amongst the Clouds and Central Points (?) It starts in the park with the Armour kill missions. I can get a silver in Amongst the Clouds but i always screw up on the last stretch of the race, best i've managed there is a silver with 6 seconds out.

    Central Points is just kicking the living crap out of me and i've never done better than getting a bronze about 5 seconds out from a silver on that.

    Hit solid surfaces as often as you can to keep air-dashing. You should be gliding as little as possible for the last few running missions.

    Among the Clouds might be the hardest of the bunch, for what it's worth.

    Rust on
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    psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Rust wrote: »
    5 more WoI Targets to go and 2 more bloody free running mission to finish. I think i've learnt a fair bit about the finer points of controlling Alex from those missions but i still can't bring myself to actually enjoy most of them.

    Does anybody have any advice for Amongst the Clouds and Central Points (?) It starts in the park with the Armour kill missions. I can get a silver in Amongst the Clouds but i always screw up on the last stretch of the race, best i've managed there is a silver with 6 seconds out.

    Central Points is just kicking the living crap out of me and i've never done better than getting a bronze about 5 seconds out from a silver on that.

    Hit solid surfaces as often as you can to keep air-dashing. You should be gliding as little as possible for the last few running missions.

    Among the Clouds might be the hardest of the bunch, for what it's worth.

    My strategy for Amongst the clouds has been

    Run and jump the pit to the first point

    run jump off the tiny ledge you land on and then use the glide to reach the second point.

    stop and charge jump to glide to the third point without having to stop on any intermediary towers or spend time running up the walls

    same for the next

    and then the strategy kind of fails because you always end up dashing across roofs and up the bloody walls trying to get to the final one in time.

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    RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Stop on intermediary towers. Gliding is just too frigging slow, you need to keep airdashing to get anywhere in time.

    Just brush up against a wall or land on a corner. You'll save precious seconds that way.

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    tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Dear game,

    Give me my last three WOI targets goddamnit.

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    randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Aegeri wrote: »
    Oh wow you guys weren't kidding about the final boss. He wasn't as bad as that tank bit though, but man did those marines come through for me in the end. They almost never shot me the entire fight and were an important source of nutrients at key times.

    God bless them.
    Yeah the end was kind of weird but the final boss wasn't nearly as bad as it was made out to be. Though

    I really didn't get the ending. Mostly because I was so confused as to how someone could say "You can't touch me because I have that one piece of info!" and Alex is just like "DAMN I CANT TOUCH HIM!"

    It's like the game forgot all about absorbing people.

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    RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Aegeri wrote: »
    Oh wow you guys weren't kidding about the final boss. He wasn't as bad as that tank bit though, but man did those marines come through for me in the end. They almost never shot me the entire fight and were an important source of nutrients at key times.

    God bless them.
    Yeah the end was kind of weird but the final boss wasn't nearly as bad as it was made out to be. Though

    I really didn't get the ending. Mostly because I was so confused as to how someone could say "You can't touch me because I have that one piece of info!" and Alex is just like "DAMN I CANT TOUCH HIM!"

    It's like the game forgot all about absorbing people.

    Well technically he did touch him.
    He just took a second to gloat like the evil man he is, going "hey dumbass I can consume people and steal all their knowledge, you didn't know that? It's easy, watch! SEE HOW EASY THIS IS!?"

    Then again the writing is a special kind of awful so you might be more on the mark.

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    randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Rust wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    Oh wow you guys weren't kidding about the final boss. He wasn't as bad as that tank bit though, but man did those marines come through for me in the end. They almost never shot me the entire fight and were an important source of nutrients at key times.

    God bless them.
    Yeah the end was kind of weird but the final boss wasn't nearly as bad as it was made out to be. Though

    I really didn't get the ending. Mostly because I was so confused as to how someone could say "You can't touch me because I have that one piece of info!" and Alex is just like "DAMN I CANT TOUCH HIM!"

    It's like the game forgot all about absorbing people.

    Well technically he did touch him.
    He just took a second to gloat like the evil man he is, going "hey dumbass I can consume people and steal all their knowledge, you didn't know that? It's easy, watch! SEE HOW EASY THIS IS!?"

    Then again the writing is a special kind of awful so you might be more on the mark.
    I think I missed that part then because I don't recall him doing anything and then the final boss appeared out of nowhere and distracted me.

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    SilpheedSilpheed Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The last boss really felt like a rushjob to me. I also hope that for an eventual sequel that you'll be able to use your moveset on every enemy in the game. Not being able to use the more fancy fighting techniques on Hunters or Supersoldiers felt really cheap and lazy, in terms of design.

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    AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Alex ate him. Check your WOI and you'll see his name in there.

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Aegeri wrote: »
    Alex ate him. Check your WOI and you'll see his name in there.

    How?
    Didn't the Specialist Hunter kill him?

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Yay! Gold on all! 20 free platinum!

    And most of the ones I didn't get platinum are the ones I hated the most! Blarg, that's waiting till after my exam no way am I breaking my ass on them right now.

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    psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Alex got a doggy bag.

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Btw, psyco, theres two missions.

    Center of Power

    Point to Point.

    Which one do you mean?

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    psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Center of Power.

    Just got Amongst the clouds done in a minute dead, didn't know you could charge a jump while running up the wall, so much faster than repeatedly tapping the jump and dash.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2009
    tofu wrote: »
    fuck the fucking toxin truck defend mission

    FUCK it

    Use a tank.

    there ain't no tanks

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    DockenDocken Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Oh my fucking god the fight after the toxin truck is mind numbingly boring.

    I got half-way through and then literally just exited to desktop to read my email.

    Edit: Tube - Try muscle mass and jump attacks. Tends to knock off the hunters pretty quickly and with minimal fuss.

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    X Pr3dat0R XX Pr3dat0R X Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    tofu wrote: »
    fuck the fucking toxin truck defend mission

    FUCK it

    Use a tank.

    there ain't no tanks

    I used whipfist for this my first time through. The military spend their entire time fighting the infected anyway so I would just watch the truck and if a hunter got close, whipfist him.
    That's enough to aggro him away from the truck so the military can do their thing. Meanwhile I get ready to rinse and repeat on the next one.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2009
    I'm at the point where there are two hunter leaders on the truck, and they kill it in a few seconds. I'll go free roam until I can afford the blade drop

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    Dr.TongueDr.Tongue Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Are you actually defending the trunk or escorting it? For the former i just ate regular infected til I could use a critical mass ability. I'm not sure but I think hitting a hunter leader will usually make them chase you around a bit and the truck could take a few hits from the regular hunters while i deal with the leaders/consume stuff. I could eat enough of them between waves and use it right as they all converged on the truck. After that it was just a matter of killing the hunter leaders.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2009
    Defending it, although since I quit out I think I'll have to start again from the escort. I had the most luck when I started using the whipfist. I think turning armor off so I can dodge might help too.

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    Dr.TongueDr.Tongue Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I don't think you have to escort the truck again because that would be just cruel. Anyway here is a list of what I did at the very start of the mission.

    equip shield+hammer fist
    ignore the truck for the first round while i get critical mass
    lure any stray hunters next to truck
    position myself right next to the truck
    kill hunters with devastator attack
    kill any stray hunter/leaders
    get critical mass during the down time after a wave

    That pretty much got me through it with out 50%ish life left on the truck.

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    wusoldjrwusoldjr Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Am I alone in liking this game less and less each time I play it? I love the free roam, but hate the missions/side missions

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    PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Big shout out to Ed for mentioning Frank Sinatra's "New York, New York". It sounds great while mucking around in the city. As do his other songs

    :whistle:I did it my wayyyyyyyy:whistle: *Muscle Mass Bulletdrop into busy street*

    EDIT: I also snapkicked a super soldier towards another rooftop during one of the side missions, then flykicked all the way over there to finish him off, so that's a no from me, wusoldjr.

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    X Pr3dat0R XX Pr3dat0R X Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    wusoldjr wrote: »
    Am I alone in liking this game less and less each time I play it? I love the free roam, but hate the missions/side missions

    I know I'm the opposite, at least. I'm playing through it again on hard now and been throwing myself, with vigour, at every side mission. Having proper missions to do again is really fun too.

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    l337CrappyJackl337CrappyJack Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    wusoldjr wrote: »
    Am I alone in liking this game less and less each time I play it? I love the free roam, but hate the missions/side missions

    There really does need to be some more content for this game to really have any legs, but they've already gone ahead and said they're done supporting it, no cheats, no DLC. If any game was screaming for wacky cheats and new game modes, this was it.

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    wusoldjrwusoldjr Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    wusoldjr wrote: »
    Am I alone in liking this game less and less each time I play it? I love the free roam, but hate the missions/side missions

    There really does need to be some more content for this game to really have any legs, but they've already gone ahead and said they're done supporting it, no cheats, no DLC. If any game was screaming for wacky cheats and new game modes, this was it.

    Wow, that sucks. I agree giving this game some cool cheats would do a lot to making it more fun. Just give me low gravity, that's all I need.

    Eh, staring at the game's case on top of my 360 makes me wish I got Red Faction instead. Ah well.

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I got a good week out of the game so I can't complain

    it's more then what I get out of most games

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    X Pr3dat0R XX Pr3dat0R X Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    wusoldjr wrote: »
    Am I alone in liking this game less and less each time I play it? I love the free roam, but hate the missions/side missions

    There really does need to be some more content for this game to really have any legs, but they've already gone ahead and said they're done supporting it, no cheats, no DLC. If any game was screaming for wacky cheats and new game modes, this was it.

    I would have loved to see something like a L4D infected set for each power. Each power changes your skin
    Whipfist - Smoker
    Hammerfist - Tank
    Claws - Hunter
    Musclemass - Boomer
    Blade - ...emmm...balls!

    Also, something I kept meaning to mention

    Armour + Blade power...
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    ...anyone?

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Defending it, although since I quit out I think I'll have to start again from the escort. I had the most luck when I started using the whipfist. I think turning armor off so I can dodge might help too.

    There are definitely some APCs floating around. Go into the sidestreets right at the start, away from the truck before shit spawns.

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    yeah I just used a tank to kill everything but the hunter leaders, which I blade drop'd instead

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    psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Also don't use the armour, use the shield and dodge more, armour just slows you down and makes you rocket bait.

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I never used the shield once I got armor 8-)

    Except when I felt fancy and wanted to use bulletdrop for some reason

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    DrunkMcDrunkMc Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    If I wrote a review for this game it'd be this:

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/reviews/6179-Review-Prototype

    I'm just about halfway through the main missions. Still having tons of fun just running around. I'm really digging the Web of Intrigue. I like seeing all the different perspectives. Running and gunning is a blast, and I still can't get enough of throwing people into the sides of walls. :)

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    bulletdropping from the ceiling of the sky right into a busy street filled with cars is the best

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    SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I think my favourite part of the boss fight in Times Square is how it's incredibly tedious if you don't use vehicles, but if do use vehicles you'll repeatedly fail it because the helicopter flies out of the mission area during the pointless little "mash the button" hijacking qte.

    It's a hard choice, though. I mean, I also love how it's incredibly easy to get stunlocked by a pair of hunters for five minutes as they slowly drive you out of the mission area so you fail that way.

    Or how about those stupid-ass fat fucks with their running attacks that deal virtually no damage? Yeah, I love them. I love how they're no threat at all other than knocking you over so the giant penis can vomit masonry on you.

    That boss fight is absolutely fucking terrible. It's not hard, it's not challanging, it's just tedious and irritating. I'm baffled that someone looked at it and thought "Yes, this is good game design. I have done good work here."

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    killing children would be hilarious
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    HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE PENNY ARCADE FORUMS

    PLEASE ENJOY YOUR STAY

    AND THIS PENIS
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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I just thought those green orbs were super annoying because they kept interrupting attacks. Everything else was pretty straightforward and okay

    And it got pretty easy once you hopped into a tank. Unfortunately I didn't try that until after I had already become frustrated

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    SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    So immediately after posting about having so much trouble with beating that first hunter fight, I got past it.

    Two things I didn't realize: 1., that I could activate my shield while still having the claws active, and 2. I don't know how to dodge roll. I always miss those kinds of things.

    I only died once on the first Hunter mission. The second time I totally missed where the objective changed to 'blow up the fuel tanks with rockets' and I kept fighting for a good 15 minutes, then realized what I needed to do.

    I died 7 times as it turned out. I just kept getting raped.

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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Maybe its because I suck at combos, even simple ones, but I'm not really into the whipfist. At all. But then again, I pretty much play this game by pressing two buttons. Square and Triangle. In random order. That's probably also why I haven't been able to defend the toxic truck. I don't know how to do any moves. I buy them, and then they just sit there. Unused.

    I'm terrible at remembering and executing combos. That's why I stay away from fighter games, and even action games like God of War and Devil May Cry aggrivate me, because I cannot get away with simply mashing the same button over and over.

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    it seems to be easier to control and fight with alex with a mouse/keyboard beause I can execute any combo very easily with just my mouse buttons

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    HalfmexHalfmex I mock your value system You also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    That first fight with the hunters in the warehouse is probably the hardest one in the game because you're stuck in an enclosed space with very few combat options available to you (since you've not yet progressed far in the game). I don't think you even have the running grab at that point (which should have been a default move in the game, by the way - it's too bread-and-butter to be relegated to a purchase).

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