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[ PROTOTYPE ] - Rainbows and Unicorns on pg. 69.

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    Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Welp, I beat the game
    Also the whole Dana subplot goes completely unresolved. Is she dead or not or what?

    I figured that plot thread was closed with the revelation that
    she's not really your sister, since you're not Alex Mercer at all, you're the virus.

    Yeah, reminded me of
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R0ZZF4O0K4

    its uncanny right? They obviously lifted the script from that..

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    echo 78echo 78 Title Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Can somebody give me some advice on how to beat the last boss? I'm playing on the normal diff.

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Last boss.
    General Strategies:
    Always keep moving, always jump away from a spot or be sprinting. So if you pick up something, move your ass. Glide is useful here because most missiles, guns, thrown objects don't track a curving glide well.
    Move your camera manually to center him, always jump again after picking something up.
    For health kill helicopters they drop tons of orbs.

    Strategy 1:
    Musclemass, run around and pick up missiles, tomohawks, bombs, throw them at him. If you have full muscle mass boost this does tons.

    Strategy 2:
    IF you have sprinting blade frenzy, run in a circle around him just out of his range and hold down the triangle button to do a full sprinting blade frenzy. It will hit him, dash past him, out of his range again. This is pretty much effortless as long as you don't charge straight into an attack. Repeat this until he is stunned. Either blade drop him then and do fully charged combos to tear him up or switch to muscle mass to grab him. You need muscle mass boost for the grab to do good damage though.
    Important: If you hear him growl twice and start his devastator, just stay at the same range you were charging the sprinting frenzy and sprint in a circle around him. As his devastator happens in slow motion, you will see three large tentacles amongst all the little ones that will try and fail to track you while you are circling him(four in the countdown, so remember that!). After they all miss you, he's completely open, so get in there with blade and tear him up.

    This strategy works well with armor since you aim to stay just out of his range and dash straight through it, and it's probably easiest to mix up both strategies (throwing bombs and doing some sprinting frenzy work).

    Remember to time the sprinting frenzy for after he finishes an attack, not in the middle.

    When he gets to half health, try to grab and eat some guys, kill some helicoptersetc to get up to critical mass. Do the circling thing again while charging a jump, and then when he is open release the jump and hold down cannonball to do Air Critical Pain. Don't do the ground version. This should take off some nice chunks, enough that bomb, helicopter, missile chucking will finish it off. Probably the throwing is the fastest at this point. If you can't get up to critical mass, just switch to throwing bombs, missiles etc.

    Credits to Aegeri (not me) for most of the blade power information and how to avoid that super attack and various others for the muscle mass information.

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    MonthenorMonthenor Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Strategy 3: Whipfist.
    Put on your shield and whipfist. Stay in close so he doesn't leap; you want him to charge straight at you and do some claw swipes. Each time he does, roll sideways and charge a Street Sweeper (poke him with light attack, charge heavy attack). Do not panic when he comes at you! In my experience, the sweeper will be fully charged just before he is able to swipe at you, it will hit him 7-8 times in quick succession, and he'll go into a minor stun. Roll away before he recovers and start the loop over again.

    If you're lucky enough to get a major stun out of it, put on musclemass and do the grab QTE. If he goes into a devastator, avoid as usual and fire off a Street Sweeper.

    Doing this, I got him to halfway without being hit and it was more than fast enough to finish him off in the time limit.

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    GorblaxGorblax Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Strategy 4: GameFAQs. 5, I guess, would be buying the player's guide. THROW YOUR MONEY AT PRIMA. THROW IT ALL.

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Strategy Guaranteed Victory:
    Immediately leap off the carrier and switch disguises the moment the game let's you. As long as you have a military disguise, you're golden. Get back on the carrier and keep moving, grabbing dropped firearms as you go and helping the military fill the ugly bastard full of lead

    If you're careful you'll have full health going into the countdown and then you can just pick up and throw some missiles at him with musclemass and it's game over. If you're less careful, you can always grab a few soldiers and consume them for health, then leap off the side and disguise again

    When he does that tentacle devestator, just get as far away as you can and don't stop moving

    It's almost trivial this way, really

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    GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The Big Reveal is really sudden. Almost out of nowhere. I have a feeling that if I'd had more WOI targets under my belt, it wouldn't have been such a huge surprise. Not that I'm any slouch when it comes to them... every time I see a blinking orange head I drop what I'm doing and grab it. But by the time the dude told me
    You are a sentient virus

    it still felt out of left field to me.

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    Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Strategy Guaranteed Victory:
    Immediately leap off the carrier and switch disguises the moment the game let's you. As long as you have a military disguise, you're golden. Get back on the carrier and keep moving, grabbing dropped firearms as you go and helping the military fill the ugly bastard full of lead

    If you're careful you'll have full health going into the countdown and then you can just pick up and throw some missiles at him with musclemass and it's game over. If you're less careful, you can always grab a few soldiers and consume them for health, then leap off the side and disguise again

    When he does that tentacle devestator, just get as far away as you can and don't stop moving

    It's almost trivial this way, really

    If you really want trivial, stay in the water.

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Monthemor, Olivaw, I like both of those, is it alright if I take them to put in the faq I'm putting together?

    It's not gonna be done anytime soon but I just thought I'd ask.

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Ain't my strategy, bro

    Heard it from someone else in this very thread! I forget who though

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    Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Ain't my strategy, bro

    Heard it from someone else in this very thread! I forget who though

    From a couple pages back.
    Did this on my second attempt. On my first try, I ran out of time and got pissed that there wasn't a checkpoint. So I looked for an alternative to repeating the whole fight.

    Jumped over the side and disguised while gliding, the instant I broke line of sight. That ended the alert, and put all the attention of the military on the boss while I jumped around in the water. At one point, I even got under an overhang and was able to put down the controller while Alex kept banging his head into the ship and dropping back into the water.

    After a few minutes, the marines and choppers had done enough damage to start the timer, and I jumped back on the deck to finish the fight. Musclemass and some random thrown objects, game over.

    By all means, share the love. If it helps someone get through that fight on Hard, that's cool. Cheap bastard that I am, I used it on Normal. :P

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    No such thing as cheap in prototype as far as I'm concerned.
    Do you think Alex would give a damn how he won? :P

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    Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Alex who?

    eh eh eh :winky:

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    MonthenorMonthenor Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Monthenor, Olivaw, I like both of those, is it alright if I take them to put in the faq I'm putting together?

    It's not gonna be done anytime soon but I just thought I'd ask.
    Nah, go ahead. A FAQ listing every power vs every boss will help silence the blade-only haters.

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    AlebakAlebak Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Beat it today, it was awesome.

    I also answered my own question from earlier in the thread: WoI targets are never "lost forever"

    I was crazy about filling that web too, and even then I never suspected the big final boss reveal (IE: Who/what is the final boss, not the other stuff)

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    RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I bought Prototype yesterday. Is good!

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I have this on the PC. Should I play with a 360 controller, or not?

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    ArjanNArjanN Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    I have this on the PC. Should I play with a 360 controller, or not?

    IMO: No.

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    Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I started playing this game a few days ago, and it really is a lot've fun, although at times also extremely frustrating. Nothing I haven't been able to overcome, but man the boss fights can really be a pain in the ass, and feel like they take cheap tactics to win.

    For instance, just last night I got to
    Elizabeth Greene

    I have all these powers, including the blade one maxed out, but yet the best tactic to beating her was to simply hijack a tank, and use the gun to blow her up. If she destroyed a tank I was in, I hopped out, ran around and got another fairly healthy tank and did it all over again.

    Before that, I'd tried using various powers but with all the shit she's throwing around at me plus 3-4 hunters chasing me, I couldn't stay anywhere near her. The victory came all too easily but at that point I was completely sick of having to do the tentacle phases over and over again just to be able to take a few slivers out of her health before the next tentacle phase started.

    I read some of the strats for the last boss fight and I don't get the feeling that it's going to be any better.

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    MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I have all these powers, including the blade one maxed out, but yet the best tactic to beating her was to simply hijack a tank, and use the gun to blow her up. If she destroyed a tank I was in, I hopped out, ran around and got another fairly healthy tank and did it all over again.

    Blade is a good choice - Climb up one of the buildings (I used the clock tower), then fully charge jump and Blade Drop on her. Wipes out 1/2 of every section if you hit it well.

    That's what's so great about the game - options.

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    Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah I tried that... dropping from great heights... but many times Alex would completely miss, even though I had her targetted, or else it would look to me like he had her targetted but instead he'd do the move on a helicoptor or nearby grunt. The most of the rest of the time he'd get hit by some random projectile, and then when I actually did manage to land a hit here and there, it really only took a few slivers of health after all the work of getting to that height. The best times were when, just after I jumped off the building and had initiated the move, she'd do that big scream thing that obliterated everything around her. So then, not only did my move not work, but I now only had a tiny sliver of health and was running for my life, hoping I could eat something before a pursuing hunter slaughtered me. One would think this was just bad timing, but it happened constantly.

    So I could either do that, which would have taken me eons, or jump in a tank and literally remove all the 'shield' tentacle stuff (to open up the real damage phase) in under 30 seconds.

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    GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Best tactic for Elizabeth Greene?
    Bullet dive + muscle mass

    You will never take damage.

    Also, I finally beat the last boss yesterday. Tried a few tactics that weren't really working. I even tried the clever way of disguising myself with the military and letting them tear him down, but that was too boring for me.

    I finally managed to bring him down using a combination of tactics: letting the military wear him down, chucking missiles and helicopters at him, and staying in close with the blade dash move. Worked well.

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    echo 78echo 78 Title Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Strategy Guaranteed Victory:
    Immediately leap off the carrier and switch disguises the moment the game let's you. As long as you have a military disguise, you're golden. Get back on the carrier and keep moving, grabbing dropped firearms as you go and helping the military fill the ugly bastard full of lead

    If you're careful you'll have full health going into the countdown and then you can just pick up and throw some missiles at him with musclemass and it's game over. If you're less careful, you can always grab a few soldiers and consume them for health, then leap off the side and disguise again

    When he does that tentacle devestator, just get as far away as you can and don't stop moving

    It's almost trivial this way, really

    Thanks, I did that and I just beat the game. ^^

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Cannonball > Greene

    There's no best strategy, since there's about ten different ways to easily take any boss down. It's not one of those games designed around "One Tactic Per Boss" that just happens to be the one you thought of and were practised enough at to make work. Someone else went through and did something differently and was practised at it enough to make that work.

    The reason so many people use blade is probably because they recently got it, went wahay lookit how sweet this is and then when they had to kill something they'd gotten used to it.
    I hate it on green, I can't make it work and when it does it's so slow. I'm much, much more used to aerial combat so cannonball is the easiest for me.

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    Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The reason so many people use blade is probably because they recently got it, went wahay lookit how sweet this is and then when they had to kill something they'd gotten used to it.

    I tried cannonball and had some trouble with the targeting and recovery. And the bullet dive was, what a million five for the upgrade? So I used what I had, the blade drop.

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I ended up resorting to a 30 minute long hit-and-run tactic for the Greene fight. Yank a heli, pepper her with homing rockets until I get shot down, land close by and fire off that beam-like devestator, then get the hell out of there around a corner to beat up on hunters for health to do it all over again. It wasn't very hard, just so bloody long and tedious. I'm sure I'd have snapped if I died half way through and had to start over.

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The reason so many people use blade is probably because they recently got it, went wahay lookit how sweet this is and then when they had to kill something they'd gotten used to it.

    I tried cannonball and had some trouble with the targeting and recovery. And the bullet dive was, what a million five for the upgrade? So I used what I had, the blade drop.

    Yeah wether you've bought it or not is another factor.

    I used blade because someone else in this thread said use blade before I got there the first time around. It wasn't until later playthroughs I figured out how good cannonball is, by then I'd been using it constantly in my normal play and had gotten used to it. So targetting/recovery etc weren't a problem.

    The air spike devastator also does a shitton, you can use the billboards on the roof of the building to the left of her to set up a perfect one where most of your approach is in cover. It does the most damage if you do it right. (As in, nearly one shots all three on normal)

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    RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I think I hate this game. I got up to the big blog/chick fight and gaah. I nearly put my controller through the tv.

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    DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    You know...I know understood the problem with that fight. I mean if you want to cheese it all you have to do is run into one of the many corners(she's stationary and won't follow you). Kill stuff until you have the health and run back for critical damage!

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    RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    It's possible to wind up in a position where you can't run away from her doom wave, and then you're screwed.

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    AiranAiran Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Just finished this, my god that end fight was pretty annoying. I tried picking up a heli but before I can press B it explodes in my face. In the end I kept tricking the boss into attacking then jumping up and blading it myself, I nearly died but the adrenaline kicked in, so I went for a Critical Mass Devastator but somehow ended up with the ground spike one instead (probably because I was in the air). Quite a satisfying finish to an annoying fight :D

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    Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    After the Greene fight, I think I sorta ran outta steam for this game, at least for the moment.

    The very next mission involves going to a military base to kill a bunch of those smokey things, and of course as soon as one is hit the entire base goes apeshit, pelting me with rockets from every direction and calling in constant strike teams.

    I could beat it I think, with just a little practice (and a lot of running away like a bitch), but damn is that not fun. I wanna see the rest of the story so I'll probably pick it up after awhile, but yeah I was quite close to smashing my controller so had to stop.

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    MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The very next mission involves going to a military base to kill a bunch of those smokey things, and of course as soon as one is hit the entire base goes apeshit, pelting me with rockets from every direction and calling in constant strike teams. .

    Easy way is to grab a tank or heli.

    Longer way that I used was to pick apart the outer defenses than go in the base on the backside (the warehouse-looking building), stealth absorb the wandering soldiers, grab rocket launchers and take shots at the smokers from a distance.

    The annyoing part of that mission is there's the floating detectors plus the supers, who can detect you too. Keep an eye on your radar.

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    Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Yeah I tried that, actually. I mean, after fighting Greene, I had pretty much assumed that I was going to need military vehicles for the rest of the game.

    Problem is, of course, that rockets tear the shit out of tanks in such great quantities, and when I'm in a copter, those tank guns are way more accurate than when I'm in control of the tanks.

    But yeah, as I said... I'm sure I could get the mission done... it's not impossible, but the fun level really drops off when I'm getting so swarmed by fuck you type enemies. I'll get back around to trying it again, I'm sure... probably do something like taking out the base to at least stop strike teams, that kinda thing. I was just venting a bit. :P

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    urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Fucking hell. I can't remember what mission it was, but fighting Greene (I assume it's not the end of the game) is a bitch and a half. You have to take out the two arms, then attack the middle, then she falls over and you have to do damage to her. All the while rocks are flying at you, homing missiles, hunters, and the military are all gunning for you.

    Fuck. That. Shit. I got her to about 10% health and I died and had to restart from the beginning. I hate bosses like this.

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    RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Luckily the store I bought it from has a 7 day exchange policy. Exchanged it for Bioshock/Oblivion pack and Forza 2. 8-)

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    PemulisPemulis Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    This game is so awesome.

    Although I haven't gotten to whatever boss fight everybody hates yet.

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    Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I beat Greene on my first try. It was kind of long, but not really hard, though I could see how it could be annoying if you didn't really understand what to do, like my roommate

    The final boss was definitely harder for me, but I mean, it should be, it's the last boss.

    This girl I'm dating played Prototype today and liked it, awesome

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The easiest way to beat Greene is to just jack a tank. It will protect you from most damage, and you can very quickly spam shells and the cannon to do damage to her. I had to jack maybe three or four tanks to finish her off, the entire process took maybe five minutes.

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The whole reason cannonball, blade, tank, close air spike devastator etc are good is they all do splash damage. Although blade is kind of a luck based splash, it mostly just does good damage to a single bit.

    But yeah anything with splash and decent recovery or damage to risk ratio is great.

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