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The Infinity Engine: All Good Things Begin And End With Breach

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  • LindenLinden Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Linden wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    Man. :( I didn't want to have Imoen in my party at all the second time around, but I guess it's either that or have a 5 man party all the way through the Underdark.

    5-man is entirely doable.

    As is one, provided they have access to mage magic.

    True, but I wouldn't want my first solo run to start after hitting Spellhold - without adequate preparation, at least.

    re. Gromnir: Zell's comment is why I didn't include him - he's there to justify the conclusion, more than anything else.

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    OK, I kind of take back what I said about Imoen, the ToB dialogue between her and Edwin about being a Child was fantastic. Trying to make her victimized was a mistake because since every aspect of her personality is so cheerful, in situations where that would not be appropriate she is only capable of "Give me my soul back you monster!" or "I am so upset about losing my soul!"

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  • LindenLinden Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Coinage wrote: »
    OK, I kind of take back what I said about Imoen, the ToB dialogue between her and Edwin about being a Child was fantastic. Trying to make her victimized was a mistake because since every aspect of her personality is so cheerful, in situations where that would not be appropriate she is only capable of "Give me my soul back you monster!" or "I am so upset about losing my soul!"

    I find it very difficult to leave Imoen behind. Once I knew her story, it just felt so wrong not to bring her to the conclusion. I also found her the most inherently interesting character in the game - I started with SoA, and was really impressed with her early lines. To be sure, there are a few losses later.

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  • CatshadeCatshade Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Didn't Bioware initially plan to kill Imoen in Spellhold or something, thus the lack of good, meaningful banters from her for the rest of the game?

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, either in Spellhold or right after. She was going to turn into the Slayer and be unable to control it so you had to kill her.

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  • HozHoz Cool Cat Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Well, there's one good idea they failed to execute.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Hoz wrote: »
    Well, there's one good idea they failed to execute.

    It's not really a very good idea.

    How would an Imoen romance mod work?

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  • CatshadeCatshade Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Pancake wrote: »
    Hoz wrote: »
    Well, there's one good idea they failed to execute.

    It's not really a very good idea.

    How would an Imoen romance mod work?


    Well, the word 'undead' is there for a reason...
    :winky:

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Well on the one hand, that would have been cool, but on the other hand then I would still be stuck with Jan's dumb ass for a no evil party.

    I resent being forced to do Saradush before Watcher's Keep.

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  • DozingDragonDozingDragon Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Why bother with anyone but the best thief in the game if you can make it to Saradush?

    The best thief in TOB:
    Sarevok

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Why bother with anyone but the best thief in the game if you can make it to Saradush?

    The best thief in TOB:
    Sarevok
    Is there even enough experience available to effectively dual class him?

    I also resented
    being forced to help him. It's my dimension, I should be able to figure out how to leave on my own!

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  • DozingDragonDozingDragon Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yes, he levels up pretty fast especially if you boot the majority of your party to handle things in Saradush, only to bring them back in when you fight Gromnir (unless you don't have Ascension installed, then you could probably take him on too).

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Coinage wrote: »
    Well on the one hand, that would have been cool, but on the other hand then I would still be stuck with Jan's dumb ass for a no evil party.

    I resent being forced to do Saradush before Watcher's Keep.

    i find your dislike of jan disturbing, do you have him and not minsc? you really should have both in the party at the same time, comedy gold.

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I had them both together, and the one time Jan tried to steal Boo was funny, but other than that he mostly tells stories that are like 3 paragraphs long that are not funny at all. I just stopped reading them. Although the dumb part referred more to his 16 Int and thief/mage multiclass, which makes him extremely limited as a spellcaster.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Jan is dumb with or without Minsc. He's just a typical "I'M GOING TO SAY RANDOM THINGS BECAUSE I'M WACKY" dude, and that's never as funny as the writers want it to be.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I use Jan every game. Fuck the haters. He rocks and is a pretty cool dude.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I hate both Minsc and Jan.

    I need fewer stupid comic relief characters in my RPGs.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So many people with poor taste here.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Just you, Disruptor. :P

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Jan is brilliant, the select/movement etc. lines are w/e but the actual conversations written for him are always good. Not to mention his fantastic epilogue.

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  • DozingDragonDozingDragon Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I remember Jan and Keldorn having a few fun banters. Something about a paladin falling in love with a flesh golem.

    EDIT: Typo equals party member confusion.

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  • HozHoz Cool Cat Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Xan?

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I've always slaughtered Edwin on sight. This is due to one reason and one reason only. The first time I played BG1 and ran into him, I killed him because I had named my character Edwin as well. Later, I imported my character into BG2.

    I was surprised to see him again. I was not as surprised to see he was as stabbable as ever.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    The depressed Elf from Nashkel mines.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    The one that's not in Baldur's Gate 2?

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yes, I was a bit confused as well. He is in the tutorial and I'm pretty sure there is a mod to put him in.

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  • DozingDragonDozingDragon Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Nope, definitely meant Jan. All fixed now. Although the Xan mod is decent, except for the fact the voice acting is really bad.

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  • StollsStolls Brave Corporate Logo Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Gearing up for another run through the whole thing via Tutu, and I've never seriously tried dual classing before. I've read the basics, and I've heard kensai/mage is crazy broken and ranger/cleric is a viable solo build, but I don't know much about dual classing beyond stat requirements and weapon restrictions.

    It won't be a solo run, though I haven't settled on who to bring along. Are any combos particularly fun or useful? Is a thief/cleric or cleric/thief of some sort just going to get the shit beat out of them most of the time? I'm very open to suggestions.

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  • KingthlayerKingthlayer Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Hm...fighter/thief with five points in two-handed swords and use all items for Carsomyr?

    Mind, I've never actually tried it so I have no idea if its viable or not.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    nah, not viable
    actually hilariously viable

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  • KingthlayerKingthlayer Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I know what my next character is going to be, then. Now, if I could only get Tutu to work on my PC...

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  • EtheaEthea Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Hm...fighter/thief with five points in two-handed swords and use all items for Carsomyr?

    Mind, I've never actually tried it so I have no idea if its viable or not.

    can only backstab with weapons that a thief can use.

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  • DozingDragonDozingDragon Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Which is why you invest your proficiencies as a thief into a weapon you can backstab with.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    For bonus points, equip staff of the magi, pause, switch weapons, backstab, pause again, requip staff of the magi, repeat.

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So Imoen just turned level 18 and now can cast level 9 spells. I thought only people with 18 int could cast level 9 spells?

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Coinage wrote: »
    So Imoen just turned level 18 and now can cast level 9 spells. I thought only people with 18 int could cast level 9 spells?

    In 3rd edition, you need 19 int to cast them, but there's no such rule in 2e that I know of. I haven't read the rules specifically in years, though, so I could very well be wrong, its not like BG follows them to the letter.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I think you just need to be the right level. Intelligence in 2e just affects how many spells you can cast, how many spells you can have of each level in your spellbook, as well as success % to scribe spells. I think.

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Coinage wrote: »
    So Imoen just turned level 18 and now can cast level 9 spells. I thought only people with 18 int could cast level 9 spells?
    In 3rd edition, you need 19 int to cast them, but there's no such rule in 2e that I know of. I haven't read the rules specifically in years, though, so I could very well be wrong, its not like BG follows them to the letter.
    This chart is in the manual, and that's how I interpreted it. For that matter, does anyone know what the mag def adj bonus with wisdom does?

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Coinage wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    So Imoen just turned level 18 and now can cast level 9 spells. I thought only people with 18 int could cast level 9 spells?
    In 3rd edition, you need 19 int to cast them, but there's no such rule in 2e that I know of. I haven't read the rules specifically in years, though, so I could very well be wrong, its not like BG follows them to the letter.
    This chart is in the manual, and that's how I interpreted it. For that matter, does anyone know what the mag def adj bonus with wisdom does?

    Saving throws. Probably "save vs spell".

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ah. Interestingly, I remember reading the explanation of that chart as my interpretation in the manual, although I can't find it now, and I read an FAQ on IWD2 that said the same thing about BG2. Maybe the ToB granted spells unlocked it somehow?

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