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is it a choice?

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Cephalic's positions seems to boil down to "I think gay sex is gross, and I'm pretty sure other straight people think gay sex is gross, so obviously a straight person would never choose to have gay sex. Therefore, being gay isn't a choice, it must have some other source, probably biological."

    I can respect that. I think a lot of the straight people on this board are grossed out by gay sex. It's a matter of exposure. It wasn't too long ago I thought gay sex was gross, too, and I'm an pretty liberal person. Thinking that sex between people not of the same orientation is unpleasant isn't uncommon; it takes a lot of time to adjust to that idea.

    I mean, really, if it doesn't turn you on, any sort of sexual act is kinda gross. There's all sorts of fluids and weird looking organs and strange positions and facial expressions. It's quite ridiculous, really.

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2006
    moniker wrote:
    Irond Will wrote:
    I dunno man honestly I got checked for appendicitis one time when I was like 17. It involved getting a finger up the poopchute and it totally brought tears to my eyes and I can't imagine enjoying something that physcially made me feel like that.
    Did the Doctor give you a reach-around?
    Man that might have at least distracted me a little.

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  • KusuguttaiKusuguttai __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    you know who was into butt stuff
    namey was in to butt stuff

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Irond Will wrote:
    moniker wrote:
    Irond Will wrote:
    I dunno man honestly I got checked for appendicitis one time when I was like 17. It involved getting a finger up the poopchute and it totally brought tears to my eyes and I can't imagine enjoying something that physcially made me feel like that.
    Did the Doctor give you a reach-around?
    Man that might have at least distracted me a little.
    Did he have both hands on your back while he was doing it?

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2006
    jclast wrote:
    It's all biology and what you body likes. I mean, we don't ostracize women that like to take it up to pooper, right? Same thing, just with gays the receiver moans in a deeper voice than in an anal-sexing straight couple.
    Yeah I'm down with that adn I'm not passing judgement or anything. I guess we'd kind of got done beating up this kid for doing his "eww gay" post and I thought I'd spin off the discussion a little.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Kusuguttai wrote:
    you know who was into butt stuff
    namey was in to butt stuff

    It's not all about the butthole pleasures

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2006
    Thanatos wrote:
    Irond Will wrote:
    moniker wrote:
    Irond Will wrote:
    I dunno man honestly I got checked for appendicitis one time when I was like 17. It involved getting a finger up the poopchute and it totally brought tears to my eyes and I can't imagine enjoying something that physcially made me feel like that.
    Did the Doctor give you a reach-around?
    Man that might have at least distracted me a little.
    Did he have both hands on your back while he was doing it?
    Seriously dude - tears running down my face. It felt horrible in ways that I didn't know things could feel horrible.

    Anyways it turned out to be kidney stones which also hurt like a motherfucker. So all in all I'm going to file it under "negative life experiences".

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Irond Will wrote:
    jclast wrote:
    It's all biology and what you body likes. I mean, we don't ostracize women that like to take it up to pooper, right? Same thing, just with gays the receiver moans in a deeper voice than in an anal-sexing straight couple.
    Yeah I'm down with that adn I'm not passing judgement or anything. I guess we'd kind of got done beating up this kid for doing his "eww gay" post and I thought I'd spin off the discussion a little.

    I know. I just saw an opportunity to legitimately use the phrase "anal-sexing" and had to take it.

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  • IShallRiseAgainIShallRiseAgain Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.

    Wow.... You're almost as bigoted as he sounds.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.

    I'm not sure - that was the worst written sentence I've seen in a while, and I work with people who don't speak english - but I think you're an idiot.

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  • Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Fencingsax wrote:
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.

    Wow.... You're almost as bigoted as he sounds.

    Bends the mind a bit, don't it?

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.

    :|
    Welcome aboard?

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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Fencingsax wrote:
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.

    Wow.... You're almost as bigoted as he sounds.

    Bends the mind a bit, don't it?
    I find myself thinking that this must be a joke.

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    i would go gay for michael shanks

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.

    You're a fucking idiot, you know that?

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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    MikeMan445 wrote:
    i would go gay for michael shanks
    pix pls

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.
    Pop-quiz: how many homosexuals have straight parents?

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  • ZonkytonkmanZonkytonkman Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Irond Will wrote:
    Irond Will wrote:
    Kusuguttai wrote:
    whoa whoa whoa
    i can look at a guy and know if I'd bone him or not and I am straight as an arrow
    I dunno man honestly I got checked for appendicitis one time when I was like 17. It involved getting a finger up the poopchute and it totally brought tears to my eyes and I can't imagine enjoying something that physcially made me feel like that.

    I knew a gay kid in college who'd never done what he called "the big one" and was really scared about it. I kind of lost touch with him after a little while so I never got to hear if it was as horrible as he feared or if it turned out okay for him.

    I dunno, my wife seems to like it just fine.
    Yeah - I've dated a few girls who said they were okay with it too, but I never could bring myself to go through with it.

    I'm really not sure if a medical examination is meant to feel the same as a pleasureable stimulation of a body part. I really don't think you have some sort of psychosomatic gay allergy going on.

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2006
    You're a fucking idiot, you know that?
    Ishalriseagain: Disillusioning conservatives since Oct 17, 2006

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Oh noes Irond! You didn't catch gay did you?

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    Oh noes Irond! You didn't catch gay did you?
    He should be okay as long as his parents weren't gay. Apparently. :roll:

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  • RenegadeDrizztRenegadeDrizzt Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    This guy is hilarious! Choice or not a choice? You didn't even make an effort to provide a semblance cohesive evidence for your "inherently heterosexual" position.
    To me, the thought of sex with a man is disgusting, so why would you simply choose to do this?
    To you, a heterosexual male, the thought of man sex is probably disgusting. But we're not dealing with a bunch of heterosexuals, dude. Homosexuals are people who are (probably genetically) attracted to men- it's not really an issue of choice. If you'd like to take the alternate stance and say that it IS a choice, let me ask you a question . . . what does it matter to you? Your rights as an individual aren't being impeded upon. Are you seriously that close minded? Let me clue you in on something: gays probably don't find your heterosexual lovin' that appealin', either.

    Homosexuality isn't a rare occurrence. Did you know that homosexual behavior is studied in 400+ species in the animal kingdom?

    I also applaud your effort to draw parallels between eating shit and anal sex. Let's roll with it for a moment, though:
    People dont eat shit, its disgusting, why would they do it for pleasure if its not appealing to them?
    You're so confused, comrade. If people enjoy eating shit and they do it for pleasure, it's probably appealing to them. If it's not appealing, it wouldn't be pleasurable!

    Sorry if I was too caustic, but clearly this man is a bigot.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Pop-quiz: how many homosexuals have straight parents?

    Don't be silly, the gays can't procreate.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.
    One theory on the genetic roots of homosexuality (which makes a lot of sense to me) is that the same genes which make guys tend towards homosexuality make women more fertile, and hornier, and therefore much more likely to reproduce. The same goes for guys and the genes for homosexuality in women. So, even if only homosexual parents had homosexual kids, your theory wouldn't work.

    I also like the fact that, under your theory, if you have a gay uncle, you're gay.

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2006
    Oh noes Irond! You didn't catch gay did you?
    I caught a finger up the ass and it hurt a lot. I'm not sure if it made me gay, but I do kind of dig musicals.

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  • IShallRiseAgainIShallRiseAgain Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.
    Pop-quiz: how many homosexuals have straight parents?
    Pop-quiz: What are recessive genes?

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Irond Will wrote:
    Oh noes Irond! You didn't catch gay did you?
    I caught a finger up the ass and it hurt a lot. I'm not sure if it made me gay, but I do kind of dig musicals.

    This guy needs some extra rare steak and NASCAR stat!

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    MikeMan445 wrote:
    i would go gay for michael shanks
    pix pls

    Here's Michael Shanks:
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    But, he's taken, boys. By Lexa Doig:
    ld.gif

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  • ZonkytonkmanZonkytonkman Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    well shit. I'd pay good money to watch those two fuck.

    especially if the girl gave "ship analysis reports" as bedroom talk.

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  • DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Irond Will wrote:
    Oh noes Irond! You didn't catch gay did you?
    I caught a finger up the ass and it hurt a lot. I'm not sure if it made me gay, but I do kind of dig musicals.
    I got checked for prostate issues when I probably just had a mild urinary tract infection. Oh god, they're way too savage with that. They could at least play some relaxing music, something.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Thanatos wrote:
    I also like the fact that, under your theory, if you have a gay uncle, you're gay.

    No just half-gay, on your Mother's side, actually.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.
    Pop-quiz: how many homosexuals have straight parents?
    Pop-quiz: What are recessive genes?
    Aspects of genotype that are less likely to present themselves in phenotype when paired with a dominant gene for the same trait. So are you now arguing that the evil gay-gene is some manner of hidden menace that we can only get rid of by sucking it up and letting people do something we as a society have declared to be immoral?

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  • ZonkytonkmanZonkytonkman Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Dynagrip wrote:
    Irond Will wrote:
    Oh noes Irond! You didn't catch gay did you?
    I caught a finger up the ass and it hurt a lot. I'm not sure if it made me gay, but I do kind of dig musicals.
    I got checked for prostate issues when I probably just had a mild urinary tract infection. Oh god, they're way too savage with that. They could at least play some relaxing music, something.

    buy you dinner first, maybe?

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    jclast wrote:
    MikeMan445 wrote:
    i would go gay for michael shanks
    pix pls

    Here's Michael Shanks:
    ms.jpg

    But, he's taken, boys. By Lexa Doig:
    ld.gif

    that bitch

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  • RenegadeDrizztRenegadeDrizzt Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You know after thinking about this, I think gays should have rights. I mean giving them rights now, will mean they will dissapear later and people won't have to deal with this issue anymore. If its such a social stigma, someone will hide they are gay and have a heterosexual relationship which means they spread whatever genes make someone gay. however in a society that is completly accepting of gays, it won't be a problem and they won't hide it. that means the genes will eventually be removed from the pool, because gay sex doesn't make babies. In the end everyone wins.
    Pop-quiz: how many homosexuals have straight parents?
    Pop-quiz: What are recessive genes?
    Aspects of genotype that are less likely to present themselves in phenotype when paired with a dominant gene for the same trait. So are you now arguing that the evil gay-gene is some manner of hidden menace that we can only get rid of by sucking it up and letting people do something we as a society have declared to be immoral?
    He's trying, VC.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Dynagrip wrote:
    Irond Will wrote:
    Oh noes Irond! You didn't catch gay did you?
    I caught a finger up the ass and it hurt a lot. I'm not sure if it made me gay, but I do kind of dig musicals.
    I got checked for prostate issues when I probably just had a mild urinary tract infection. Oh god, they're way too savage with that. They could at least play some relaxing music, something.

    buy you dinner first, maybe?

    Irond's a cheap date

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  • DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    I just don't want to feel like I need to use a rape kit after a checkup.

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  • ZonkytonkmanZonkytonkman Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    so can 15 year olds consent to prostate exams?

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