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what's the "www" bit for, really, anyway?
I registered a domain. It's working great. What doesn't work is typing the address sans-"www".
I spoke to my friend, who also provides my hosting, and we fiddled a bit but as yet I haven't got "birdvillemag.com" to automatically redirect to "www.birdvillemag.com"
Is this something I should be able to do with a normal registry's DNS facilities? If so, how do I achieve it? I'm able to add A, CNAME, MX & TXT records using the registry's DNS options, as well as modify the ones already set up.
The place I registered the domain is abcdomains. I contacted their support, which proved less than succesful - apparently they won't help me unless I also use their DNS hosting facility. I don't really know what that is.
in your dns settings, make a new cname 'www', data 'birdvillemag.com', redirecting is something you do in your web server or you can just make sure that both www.birdvillemag.com and birdvillemag.com point to the right app or files and let the user decide.
Once you do get both working, you should setup an .htaccess rule that sets up a redirect from one to the other, so that any user coming to your site will always arrive at the same location (with or without www)
Once you do get both working, you should setup an .htaccess rule that sets up a redirect from one to the other, so that any user coming to your site will always arrive at the same location (with or without www)
that's pretty cool, and it gives pretty straightforward advice about how to redirect www.birdvillemag.com to birdvillemag.com, but what i really need to do is make birdvillemag.com work in the first place
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edit: the unfulfilled "." at the end of "birdvillemag.com." gives me the heebie jeebies
The final empty dot represents the root domain (basically the entire namespace for the domain name system), and, technically, all domain names have it. It's just never written out most of the time.
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If you just recently set up your domain, give it a couple days. It took me a while before my site would work with the www
Your average host these days will auto-configure www.* for you, but it takes longer to propagate than the regular domain sometimes.
There are some people out there who have nothing to do with their spare time who think that the www. prefix is a blight on the soul of the internet. Ignore them, they can do no harm.
thanks for the info, everyone, but it still seems to not be working. i think what i need to do is add a CNAME entry with a 'host name' of birdvillemag.com and a 'destination' of www.birdvillemag.com, but the abcdomains portal won't do it - "Host Name Text was too short - should be at least 1 characters."
also, why do people keep mentioning planetdomains? i think that must be the dns host of the friend who's giving me webspace, but it's not something i have access to. is there something he can do? the birdville domain isn't registered through them, anyway...
There are some people out there who have nothing to do with their spare time who think that the www. prefix is a blight on the soul of the internet. Ignore them, they can do no harm.
I have mod powers, I can do plenty of harm!
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But really, it's a naming scheme from when we didn't have giga-hurtz to be stoeled and you needed dedicated machines to act as servers - www.foo.com was the web server, smtp.foo.com was the mail server, etc etc.
Personally I redirect www.* to the no-www name for my domains, because I want to focus the google juice to one name rather than two.
for future reference, all i needed to do was make an A record "birdvillemag.com." that went directly to the ip of my host. then i had to ask him nicely to allow access for that particular subdomain. and now it seems to work
i'm going to look at validating it as 'b-class' or whatever because i agree that the 'www.' is redundant and troublemaking, but for now it can wait. i only have so much patience with computers and i've learnt to quit while i'm winning
But why should I have to manage that with each and every individual search engine when I can just solve it via DNS instead?
That's why I suggested using the htaccess redirect. Using one of the redirect codes (301..?) then every search engine will treat the redirected to address to be the dominant/main one.
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it ends up in an entry like this:
i'd trust you, but the whole thing's a bit screwy to me so i better double check
edit: the unfulfilled "." at the end of "birdvillemag.com." gives me the heebie jeebies
http://no-www.org/
Which has/had a competitor at http://www.yes-www.org/ but is currently down for me.
Once you do get both working, you should setup an .htaccess rule that sets up a redirect from one to the other, so that any user coming to your site will always arrive at the same location (with or without www)
that's pretty cool, and it gives pretty straightforward advice about how to redirect www.birdvillemag.com to birdvillemag.com, but what i really need to do is make birdvillemag.com work in the first place
The final empty dot represents the root domain (basically the entire namespace for the domain name system), and, technically, all domain names have it. It's just never written out most of the time.
Start > run > cmd
type 'ipconfig /flushdns' (no quotes) and hit enter.
So the new A record with no hostname should point to the same IP as www.birdvillemag.com.
Your average host these days will auto-configure www.* for you, but it takes longer to propagate than the regular domain sometimes.
There are some people out there who have nothing to do with their spare time who think that the www. prefix is a blight on the soul of the internet. Ignore them, they can do no harm.
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
also, why do people keep mentioning planetdomains? i think that must be the dns host of the friend who's giving me webspace, but it's not something i have access to. is there something he can do? the birdville domain isn't registered through them, anyway...
I have mod powers, I can do plenty of harm!
...
But really, it's a naming scheme from when we didn't have giga-hurtz to be stoeled and you needed dedicated machines to act as servers - www.foo.com was the web server, smtp.foo.com was the mail server, etc etc.
Personally I redirect www.* to the no-www name for my domains, because I want to focus the google juice to one name rather than two.
for future reference, all i needed to do was make an A record "birdvillemag.com." that went directly to the ip of my host. then i had to ask him nicely to allow access for that particular subdomain. and now it seems to work
i'm going to look at validating it as 'b-class' or whatever because i agree that the 'www.' is redundant and troublemaking, but for now it can wait. i only have so much patience with computers and i've learnt to quit while i'm winning
I'm pretty sure that the premier corporation for internet search technology that has an armada of chaos mathematicians and PhD's already covered that.
If you want one URL or the other to appear in searches, it's one of the options available to you in Webmaster tools.
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
But why should I have to manage that with each and every individual search engine when I can just solve it via DNS instead?
Insanity
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other