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[Interest?] M&M2e Gritty Magical Girl Anime Game

INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teethRegistered User regular
edited July 2009 in Critical Failures
The title says most of it. Would anyone be interested in playing a game centered around, you know, teenage girls with magic powers?

I'm interested in running a game inspired by, say, in equal parts, Sailor Moon, the Power Rangers, and the World of Darkness. Some people have said what I'm looking at is pretty similar to Sailor Nothing, but I haven't read it.

Basically, it'd be a game that is at times high powered (when the girls are running around, transformed, as super heroes) and at others very low powered (any time they're not.) I intend for the game to be more lethal than your standard superheroes game, and aesthetically, it'd be painted with a 'live action brush' rather than an 'anime brush'.

I originally made a thread like this on another site, but the players mostly ignored me when I requested they speak to one another, which is going to be an important part of getting this sort of game going.

I'm looking for players who are willing to communicate with one another to create a cohesive, thematic group for the sake of telling a good story.

This is really rambly. I'll talk about mechanics and things like that if I can find 2-3 interested players (and I'll bring one from outside the forums.)

Now, I'll copy and paste the OP I used elsewhere.
MAGICAL GIRL INSPIRED GRITTY SUPERHEROES GAME or, FANTASTIC RIGHTEOUS SAVIORS, GO!

Hey, folks. I'm interested in running a Mutants and Masterminds 2e game here on RPGnet, although I'm eschewing the standard comic book settings and heroes in favor of something inspired by animes like Sailor Moon or Cutie Honey ... to a degree.

The characters will each be a member of the Magical Girl archetype common throughout some animes and mangas. Specifically, they'll be teenage girls from an East Coast city in the United States who have received powers related to particular virtues from powerful, distant celestial entities. Generally, they'll have been chosen for being particularly in tune with their assigned Virtue, but not always; some may have been assigned their Virtue because they're thought most capable to defend it, and other times, it seems entirely arbitrary.

In any case, none of the characters had any say in the matter; each of them would have encountered something that 'triggered' their Virtue, and felt an instinctive urge to go through the motions of their transformation, although they couldn't be certain why. After they began the motions (generally by speaking a nonsensical phrase containing the name of their Virtue), they'd find themselves wearing silly outfits, often with armor forming itself around them or weapons discovering themselves in their hands.

As is common in the genre, the characters all have something of a split identity: their common, human identity, who they've been from birth, and their granted identity, gained by undergoing a spectacular transformation that grants them their power as a Righteous Savior.

The game will likely begin on a fairly small-scale level, concerning the particular city or state that the characters occupy, but will likely end (should it progress long enough) with conflicts that threaten the entire cosmos.

And, finally, the flavor of the game won't be animesque. The problems and responsibilities of the Righteous Saviors will be serious issues, and the characters should approach them honestly. The behavior of the characters will always have appropriate consequences, and I expect things to fairly violent.

This information is fairly sparse; there are some definite ideas (teenage girls, transformations, Righteous Saviors, forced responsibility, grit) but I want to keep the specifics fairly vague for the moment. I'll let each of my potential players specify the Virtue they'd like their character to represent, and a brief character description.

After that, the players will talk and discuss more specifically what they're looking for, both with one another and with myself. This way, I'll be able to tailor the specifics of the game to fit with the players and the characters.

Character Generation:
Characters should be high school students, between the ages of 14 and 17 at game start.

Characters are built at Power Level 8, with 120 Power Points (+7 PP from Drawbacks, see Rules of the House.)

Complications are strongly encouraged!

Each player should select one Virtue from the list of Virtues below. The Virtue does not have to be represented necessarily in the character's personality, but should be represented in their powers. If you think there's something I did not list but would be appropriate, let me know!

I'd prefer you make a sheet that sounds cool over maximizing combat potential. I'll play fair as long as you don't force my hand.

House Rules:
Characters can't use Hero Points unless they're transformed into their heroic identities. When they're not, they're just normal people (with the exception of the Escape Death and Inspiration uses.)

No Abilities above 18. This does not limit the Enhanced Ability power.

Mandatory Drawbacks:
Normal Identity (4)
Full-Round Action
Cannot transform unless faced with a supernatural threat or when applicable to the character's Virtue.

Involuntary Transformation (3)
Uncommon, DC 15
When an aspect of the character's Virtue is threatened.

Virtues:
Beauty
Caution
Charity
Compassion
Courage
Empathy
Excellence
Faith
Fortitude
Happiness
Honesty
Honor
Humility
Innocence
Integrity
Justice
Love
Mercy
Patience
Prudence
Purity
Restraint
Sincerity
Temperance
Wisdom
Valor

Players:
Hylianbunny
Simonwolf
El Skid
cjiwakura?
Mazikeen?

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    In if you'll have me.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    HB is a gamekiller!

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  • PygmalionPygmalion Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Will there...will there be blue haired vampires? That's just freaky.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I dunno

    Probably not though.

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I knew this had to be Salt's thread based on its title alone.

    edit: you should let HB play, Salt. we all very well know that I am the game killer here.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Oh, I'm not denying HB. Hylian is good people. :P

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    it's not too late to cast True Resurrection on Odam, Horseshoe.

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It's too late Hylian.

    After PHB2, I swapped out Ritual Caster for Weapon Expertise.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm into the genre, but... well. This is a bit out there.

    Still, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested, especially if you're going for a world of darkness vibe.

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    plenty of time to bribe someone else to resurrect it, then.

    that all said, INNS, details about creation?

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'd be pretty interested in getting involved in this.

    EDIT: aw poops am I too late

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    plenty of time to bribe someone else to resurrect it, then.

    that all said, INNS, details about creation?

    not yet!

    when i got four players i like, i will say so, and then make yall talk about stuff before you make sheets.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Ok, let's see. cjiwakura, cytorak, hylianbunny, and simonwolf, four peeps. We'll see if cj's actually interested or just making comment, and I don't mind if people are new to the system, as long as they can get hold of the book somehow (M&M2e has lots of customization, and the book helps with that.)

    Now, I'll copy and paste the OP I used elsewhere.

    MAGICAL GIRL INSPIRED GRITTY SUPERHEROES GAME or, FANTASTIC RIGHTEOUS SAVIORS, GO!

    Hey, folks. I'm interested in running a Mutants and Masterminds 2e game here on RPGnet, although I'm eschewing the standard comic book settings and heroes in favor of something inspired by animes like Sailor Moon or Cutie Honey ... to a degree.

    The characters will each be a member of the Magical Girl archetype common throughout some animes and mangas. Specifically, they'll be teenage girls from an East Coast city in the United States who have received powers related to particular virtues from powerful, distant celestial entities. Generally, they'll have been chosen for being particularly in tune with their assigned Virtue, but not always; some may have been assigned their Virtue because they're thought most capable to defend it, and other times, it seems entirely arbitrary.

    In any case, none of the characters had any say in the matter; each of them would have encountered something that 'triggered' their Virtue, and felt an instinctive urge to go through the motions of their transformation, although they couldn't be certain why. After they began the motions (generally by speaking a nonsensical phrase containing the name of their Virtue), they'd find themselves wearing silly outfits, often with armor forming itself around them or weapons discovering themselves in their hands.

    As is common in the genre, the characters all have something of a split identity: their common, human identity, who they've been from birth, and their granted identity, gained by undergoing a spectacular transformation that grants them their power as a Righteous Savior.

    The game will likely begin on a fairly small-scale level, concerning the particular city or state that the characters occupy, but will likely end (should it progress long enough) with conflicts that threaten the entire cosmos.

    And, finally, the flavor of the game won't be animesque. The problems and responsibilities of the Righteous Saviors will be serious issues, and the characters should approach them honestly. The behavior of the characters will always have appropriate consequences, and I expect things to fairly violent.

    This information is fairly sparse; there are some definite ideas (teenage girls, transformations, Righteous Saviors, forced responsibility, grit) but I want to keep the specifics fairly vague for the moment. I'll let each of my potential players specify the Virtue they'd like their character to represent, and a brief character description.

    After that, the players will talk and discuss more specifically what they're looking for, both with one another and with myself. This way, I'll be able to tailor the specifics of the game to fit with the players and the characters.

    Character Generation:
    Characters should be high school students, between the ages of 14 and 17 at game start.

    Characters are built at Power Level 8, with 120 Power Points (+7 PP from Drawbacks, see Rules of the House.)

    Complications are strongly encouraged!

    Each player should select one Virtue from the list of Virtues below. The Virtue does not have to be represented necessarily in the character's personality, but should be represented in their powers. If you think there's something I did not list but would be appropriate, let me know!

    I'd prefer you make a sheet that sounds cool over maximizing combat potential. I'll play fair as long as you don't force my hand.

    House Rules:
    Characters can't use Hero Points unless they're transformed into their heroic identities. When they're not, they're just normal people (with the exception of the Escape Death and Inspiration uses.)

    No Abilities above 18. This does not limit the Enhanced Ability power.

    Mandatory Drawbacks:
    Normal Identity (4)
    Full-Round Action
    Cannot transform unless faced with a supernatural threat or when applicable to the character's Virtue.

    Involuntary Transformation (3)
    Uncommon, DC 15
    When an aspect of the character's Virtue is threatened.

    Virtues:
    Beauty
    Caution
    Charity
    Compassion
    Courage
    Empathy
    Excellence
    Faith
    Fortitude
    Happiness
    Honesty
    Honor
    Humility
    Innocence
    Integrity
    Justice
    Love
    Mercy
    Patience
    Prudence
    Purity
    Restraint
    Sincerity
    Temperance
    Wisdom
    Valor



    The reason I came to PA was because I wasn't certain I'd be able to get from the players what I want for the players to provide: a consistent, thematic aesthetic for the group, with tied backgrounds and character hooks. Characters shouldn't be made independently; players should be open and discuss what they mean to do and what they'd like to see with the others, so that the group comes together as a unit instead of a handful of individual characters. :D

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Dibs on Faith, if no one else minds.

    And since I have the first post after the transposed OP; what sort of magical girls are we looking at? Have to admit I'm a bit partial to the first as I've been on a bit of a cardcaptors kick recently.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    [00:01] hylianb: mostly just trying to decide how to go about the powers right now. On a bit of a cardcaptors kick right now to be honest so I'd like to work along those lines if I can, but (and I know you said flavour of the game won't be animesque) are you looking for a certain 'type' of magical girl over otherS?
    [00:02] aluminium2518: mooooostly what i'd like is less to have a specific type ... so much as to have everyone discuss it so that regardless of the type, all of the characters are, say, 'in genre' with one another.
    [00:02] hylianb: mm, alright.
    [00:02] aluminium2518: so that i don't end up with a Sakura and a Sailor and a Nanoha

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'd be happy to go with a Card Captors style game, if only because I have such great memories of watching that show on Cartoon Network. I should really try and get the full series.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Now I gotta watch that.

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Unless anybody has any objections, I'd like to call dibs on Love.

    Like I said, I'd be happy to go along the Cardcaptors line of magical girls, but I'm also partial to Rayearth - the grittiness of Rayearth certainly appeals.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    no mecha

    no overt magic outside of the girls

    fyi (i don't know much about rayearth but isn't it fantasy setting + mecha, that's not gonna fly)

    also i don't know much about cardcaptor honestly but as long as the theme is consistent, i'm cool

    don't get caught up in hylian's suggestion that you need to take wholesale from a particular anime :p

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Rayearth is basically magical girls with swords and sorcery. Late in the series, they get mecha.

    Er, does this require some sort of sourcebook? Because I have no idea what most of that creation stuff entails.

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'll give you a hand when I'm back from work slash have the spare time.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Rayearth is basically magical girls with swords and sorcery. Late in the series, they get mecha.

    Er, does this require some sort of sourcebook? Because I have no idea what most of that creation stuff entails.

    ... Mutants and Masterminds 2e, like in the title. :p

    Edit: Also, because Hylian asked last night, transformations are full-round actions, but during the transformation, characters can't be harmed. I feel this is a necessary genre conceit.

    It doesn't mean that, say, giant godzilla lizards can't eat your entire family while you're transforming, or that the squad of magical monsters come to beat you up can't do their own powerups while you're out of action, though!

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    cytorak wrote: »
    Hmm...appears that my copy of M&M has disappeared from my storage locker, so I must respectfully bow out. Look forward to following along though!

    How does it just disappear. :(

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    This is depressing news, cytorak!

    If you're still familiar with the systemish (I assume you know d20 pretty well!) I'm sure those of us blessed with the book can help you through, if you're still interested anyway.

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    no mecha

    no overt magic outside of the girls

    fyi (i don't know much about rayearth but isn't it fantasy setting + mecha, that's not gonna fly)

    also i don't know much about cardcaptor honestly but as long as the theme is consistent, i'm cool

    don't get caught up in hylian's suggestion that you need to take wholesale from a particular anime :p

    Oh, I didn't mean the mecha part of Rayearth at all - the series starts off with them only controlling magic and swords, and does eventually end up with them having mecha, but I was mostly commenting on the kind of grittiness the storyline offers.

    I've got the sourcebook and a bunch of the additional books for the system - I was assuming we'd only be using the main book, however?

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    the M&M 2e core book should be sufficient, and Ultimate Power can be useful (although it's mostly just a book of new ways to do what you already can with the core.)

    Will probably have more house rules coming up... hm.

    I might have to limit not-transformed toughness saves. I don't mind high saves in other realms, but I do want characters to be fairly frail when they're not transformed, and running around with +8 toughness in schoolgirl (or whatever) form might be awkward. *rubs her chin*

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Hey now, some of them could kick tail without being transformed.

    makoto09.jpg

    Just an example.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    in an anime maybe :P

    but it seems my concerns re: toughness are covered by limiting con to 18, so it's all good.

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Well, I've mulled things over and come up with a character concept that I think should work with what you're saying are the main themes and settting of this game - at the very least, I have my idea down for the deity/being that bequeaths the powers onto this character.

    Limiting con scores doesn't seem like it'll be a huge hassle, especially if you want the girls real-life forms to be as weak as they would be in, you know, reality.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    That's the idea. 18 is the limit for all stats, and generally there should be a good reason for having stats that high. Buying up to and past that limit with Enhanced Ability is fine, though.

    remember re: origins, be consistent! consistency is important between the characters. :)

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    With that said, I'd like to hear from the others about what they think would be a nice basic concept for how the girls got their powers! I figured that we'd each be able to customise the particulars of how the individual girls were given their individual tenant, but that they'd all share a similar base idea.

    It probably sounds overtly generic, but I had an idea along the lines of how Sakura was granted her powers in CardCaptor Sakura - she was granted her powers by another being. In our case, however, I thought that we might think of the girls as having been chosen as avatars of whatever tenant they represent, more than likely by the spirit/deity that represents that particular ideal.

    So, in the case of Love, the girl may have been granted her power by Ame-No-Uzume, Benten, Amor, Astarte, Freyja... possibly a being that represents the amalgamation of all the deities of love.

    That's just me, of course! I am biased towards anything with a religious tone to it.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    jesus is the source of power!

    (i kid)

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    If somebody wants to choose Jesus as their power source, I'm afraid your only available tenant will be 'Getting Crucified'

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Looking at your idea of having characters receive their powers from deities ... I think that's a cool idea (despite the joking last night), but I think it'd be cooler if, should people go with that, they went with a particular mythology to draw from for the group.

    Even cooler if the mythology is not Japanese, but something like Norse or Egyptian.

    Edit: Also, pretty bummer to see cytorak go, but should be bringin' a new player in.

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  • TunnelRunnerTunnelRunner Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    My local comic shop has the Monster Manual of the Sailor Moon RPG on display.

    It is twenty dollars.

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  • Crimson PhantomCrimson Phantom Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    While I won't be playing in this game (I'm moving soon and don't have the expendable funds to buy a new sourcebook and I don't know how long I'll be without internet) I have been following since you started and as just a suggestion if you wanted to do Norse mythology your characters could be Valkyries while technically they are the choosers of the dead who rise into Valhalla they were also feirce warriors. Seeing as how valkyries are all females that could work well with your game, or if you don't want them to by valkyries perhaps an avatar of one. It wouldn't be too far of a stretch to say that with the coming battle of Ragnarok Odin sent his best Valkyries out to produce heirs so that he may strengthen his armies. It would lend to a progressive story from just getting their inherited powers, and learning to control that power to a battle that would define the cosmos....

    ...but that's just a thought anyways.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    My local comic shop has the Monster Manual of the Sailor Moon RPG on display.

    It is twenty dollars.

    I've always wanted that book.

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    there you go, salt

    a game in an Odin Sphere setting

    which is a neat idea

    and salt if you have not played that game i think it is totally your kind of game

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I have no idea what an Odin Sphere is.

    edit: GIS sez: http://ui24.gamespot.com/215/odinsphere13_2.jpg
    and now I know that he is telling the truth.

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    it's a PS2 game

    you would probably dig it

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