Took us four hours to do 25-man Northrend Beasts. Possibly because only two or three of us had bothered reading strats from the PTR beforehand; apparently everyone else preferred to be surprised.
Dude, this has been announced since they announced the format of the coliseum.
You fight 1 boss each week, unlocking the next boss for next week. They aren't going to be patching in later bosses. That's just stupid.
This isn't a new major raid, per se, more like a ZA Raid, good loot but shorter than the major tiers.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
We were doing XT's broken hardmode tonight, and after we wiped the first time to the mass of adds, someone piped up "Hey its a new content patch shouldn't we be in the new instanc...oh wait we cleared it"
Took us four hours to do 25-man Northrend Beasts. Possibly because only two or three of us had bothered reading strats from the PTR beforehand; apparently everyone else preferred to be surprised.
yesterday i couldn't get into htoc, but me and a few buddies ran reg toc, none of us knowing what the fuck we were doing
we wiped once, which wasn't fun, and it took 20 minutes to actually rez up, but the total experience was very fun. I loved having to react to the situation and figure out what was going on, making your own strategies. It's like playing a game with or without a guide. Sure if you use a guide you'll get through it faster, but i think doing it without one keeps you sharp and it makes the experience overall more exciting
were i running a 25 man i probably wouldn't risk the wipes, but for a 5man i think it was worth it
learning new bosses, for me, is one of the more exciting things in this game
Dude, this has been announced since they announced the format of the coliseum.
You fight 1 boss each week, unlocking the next boss for next week. They aren't going to be patching in later bosses. That's just stupid.
This isn't a new major raid, per se, more like a ZA Raid, good loot but shorter than the major tiers.
I honestly like this, especially since my guild seems to be unable to successfully kill all the keepers in 10 man each week (we have too many people with ancient computers that seems to turn them from great players into 'oooh what is Mimiron doing with that spinning up thing oh wait I'm dead' due to horrible framerate issues) so instead we can go try the new boss in the coliseum and if we clear it we can go back to beating our heads in Ulduar. Or something like that... :?
I honestly like this, especially since my guild seems to be unable to successfully kill all the keepers in 10 man each week (we have too many people with ancient computers that seems to turn them from great players into 'oooh what is Mimiron doing with that spinning up thing oh wait I'm dead' due to horrible framerate issues) so instead we can go try the new boss in the coliseum and if we clear it we can go back to beating our heads in Ulduar. Or something like that... :?
Just a hint: If people die to stupid things and immediately go straight to the "lag" card, the vast majority of the time they are full of shit and just suck. If you have an entire guild of people doing this it means that one of them started it at one point and the rest of them caught on quickly that anything they ever do wrong is not their fault, it is that damn lag again. The sad part is those types of people are the least likely to ever actually get better since nobody ever calls them out on dumb playing, so there is no reason for them to actually play well.
Can anyone explain the raid lockout system? Mainly, if we were to extend our uld25 one week to kill Yog - would that take up our next weeks lockout? If we finish Yogg on... thursday, could we get the lockout from tuesday back and have a full clear to do?
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I'd construct a situation such that everyone died at the exact same moment so that we could attack whatever afterlife there happens to be en masse and so take it over and create a perfect unending afterlife existence. Also, everyone who wanted one would have an afterlife pony.
I honestly like this, especially since my guild seems to be unable to successfully kill all the keepers in 10 man each week (we have too many people with ancient computers that seems to turn them from great players into 'oooh what is Mimiron doing with that spinning up thing oh wait I'm dead' due to horrible framerate issues) so instead we can go try the new boss in the coliseum and if we clear it we can go back to beating our heads in Ulduar. Or something like that... :?
Just a hint: If people die to stupid things and immediately go straight to the "lag" card, the vast majority of the time they are full of shit and just suck. If you have an entire guild of people doing this it means that one of them started it at one point and the rest of them caught on quickly that anything they ever do wrong is not their fault, it is that damn lag again. The sad part is those types of people are the least likely to ever actually get better since nobody ever calls them out on dumb playing, so there is no reason for them to actually play well.
my solution would be to say "I apologize if you are lagging, but we need to get through this content for the greater good of the guild. People that cause wipes will be replaced, no exceptions."
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
Can anyone explain the raid lockout system? Mainly, if we were to extend our uld25 one week to kill Yog - would that take up our next weeks lockout? If we finish Yogg on... thursday, could we get the lockout from tuesday back and have a full clear to do?
No.
You extend that lockout, and you miss a week's kill on any of the bosses already dead.
Say we clear up to General Vezax and want to work on his hardmode (we've already killed his hardmode long ago, but as a good example).
We don't manage to kill him Monday, but we want to work on him all next week. In that situation, we could choose to extend the lockout, and we'd have an entire another work to work on him.
Downside is, we'd only then get General and Yogg for that next week.
I honestly like this, especially since my guild seems to be unable to successfully kill all the keepers in 10 man each week (we have too many people with ancient computers that seems to turn them from great players into 'oooh what is Mimiron doing with that spinning up thing oh wait I'm dead' due to horrible framerate issues) so instead we can go try the new boss in the coliseum and if we clear it we can go back to beating our heads in Ulduar. Or something like that... :?
Just a hint: If people die to stupid things and immediately go straight to the "lag" card, the vast majority of the time they are full of shit and just suck. If you have an entire guild of people doing this it means that one of them started it at one point and the rest of them caught on quickly that anything they ever do wrong is not their fault, it is that damn lag again. The sad part is those types of people are the least likely to ever actually get better since nobody ever calls them out on dumb playing, so there is no reason for them to actually play well.
my solution would be to say "I apologize if you are lagging, but we need to get through this content for the greater good of the guild. People that cause wipes will be replaced, no exceptions."
@ Peryton - We do call them out. When they only die to stupid shit on certain bosses (ATM, we kill Thorim and Freya fine, its Hodir and Mimiron causing issues) that cause the most graphical headaches for people on older PCs, then I'm leaning towards it being their older PCs. Note I didn't say lag, I said framerate issues. If you're getting single digit FPS and have to pan your camera on the ground and zoom in all the way then its going to be difficult to move out of barrage range. Generally we suffer the most computer related attrition in Phase 4 when there's so much shit flying around. Nobody is purposefully sucking, this is a 10 man guild and if you suck we don't take you to progression fights, or we call you out, tell you what you're doing wrong and help you to not do it anymore.
@ Cunty - 10 man guild. There are no replacements available 90% of the time. We generally have the same 7 people in there each week with a few different DPS/Healers in the remaining slots.
@ Both - Yeah, we have mostly people who aren't the best players in the world, but can play their classes effectively. I've done bleeding edge progression before, and I'm happy for now to just to raid 2/3 times a week for a few hours a night and do normal modes for now. If I get tired of wiping and dealing with the people in my guild, I'll leave, but for now I have fun with what we can accomplish and nobody in the guild is annoying or superterrible.
you can get a solid graphics card, more than capable of WoW for like $70-100
wouldn't that solve most framerate issues?
unless we're talking computers that don't even have a PCI-E slot, but if this is the case then I don't know if you should be raiding to begin with
i'm not saying people that don't have good computers shouldn't play wow, but don't pull other people down
not to mention you don't need a good computer for wow, you barely need a decent computer, it's wow. It's one of the lowest spec requirements of modern PC games
the minimum requirements on the side of the box are there for a reason, know what i mean?
Can anyone explain the raid lockout system? Mainly, if we were to extend our uld25 one week to kill Yog - would that take up our next weeks lockout? If we finish Yogg on... thursday, could we get the lockout from tuesday back and have a full clear to do?
No.
You extend that lockout, and you miss a week's kill on any of the bosses already dead.
Say we clear up to General Vezax and want to work on his hardmode (we've already killed his hardmode long ago, but as a good example).
We don't manage to kill him Monday, but we want to work on him all next week. In that situation, we could choose to extend the lockout, and we'd have an entire another work to work on him.
Downside is, we'd only then get General and Yogg for that next week.
Isn't there also a possibility to un-extend it? So, if you extend it to kill Yogg and such, then un-extend it, wouldn't that give you that week's remaining days to work on the instance again?
yeah i don't know, I guess i'm just not as compassionate as you are, or perhaps you're very good friends with these people? I don't know
I used to work at best buy (ugh) and there were plenty of people trying to buy graphics cards/ram for 10+ year old computers, it was a sight to behold
it's just amazing how cheap computers are now compared to what they used to be. You can get a capable desktop for 400 dollars nowadays. That blows my mind. Build it yourself? it's a joke how cheap a computer can get
not that everyone has money for computers, but it is important to note that a computer isn't really an accessory anymore, it's an integral part of modern society
as time goes on, it becomes less of a luxury and more of a necessity to have a decent computer
Can anyone explain the raid lockout system? Mainly, if we were to extend our uld25 one week to kill Yog - would that take up our next weeks lockout? If we finish Yogg on... thursday, could we get the lockout from tuesday back and have a full clear to do?
No.
You extend that lockout, and you miss a week's kill on any of the bosses already dead.
Say we clear up to General Vezax and want to work on his hardmode (we've already killed his hardmode long ago, but as a good example).
We don't manage to kill him Monday, but we want to work on him all next week. In that situation, we could choose to extend the lockout, and we'd have an entire another work to work on him.
Downside is, we'd only then get General and Yogg for that next week.
Isn't there also a possibility to un-extend it? So, if you extend it to kill Yogg and such, then un-extend it, wouldn't that give you that week's remaining days to work on the instance again?
Yes, but only if you don't get re-saved to that ID after the reset. So you would still have to kill Yogg on say, Monday, even if you extended the ID as long as you don't go in Tuesday and save yourself on the extended ID again.
I honestly like this, especially since my guild seems to be unable to successfully kill all the keepers in 10 man each week (we have too many people with ancient computers that seems to turn them from great players into 'oooh what is Mimiron doing with that spinning up thing oh wait I'm dead' due to horrible framerate issues) so instead we can go try the new boss in the coliseum and if we clear it we can go back to beating our heads in Ulduar. Or something like that... :?
Just a hint: If people die to stupid things and immediately go straight to the "lag" card, the vast majority of the time they are full of shit and just suck. If you have an entire guild of people doing this it means that one of them started it at one point and the rest of them caught on quickly that anything they ever do wrong is not their fault, it is that damn lag again. The sad part is those types of people are the least likely to ever actually get better since nobody ever calls them out on dumb playing, so there is no reason for them to actually play well.
my solution would be to say "I apologize if you are lagging, but we need to get through this content for the greater good of the guild. People that cause wipes will be replaced, no exceptions."
@ Peryton - We do call them out. When they only die to stupid shit on certain bosses (ATM, we kill Thorim and Freya fine, its Hodir and Mimiron causing issues) that cause the most graphical headaches for people on older PCs, then I'm leaning towards it being their older PCs. Note I didn't say lag, I said framerate issues. If you're getting single digit FPS and have to pan your camera on the ground and zoom in all the way then its going to be difficult to move out of barrage range. Generally we suffer the most computer related attrition in Phase 4 when there's so much shit flying around. Nobody is purposefully sucking, this is a 10 man guild and if you suck we don't take you to progression fights, or we call you out, tell you what you're doing wrong and help you to not do it anymore.
@ Cunty - 10 man guild. There are no replacements available 90% of the time. We generally have the same 7 people in there each week with a few different DPS/Healers in the remaining slots.
@ Both - Yeah, we have mostly people who aren't the best players in the world, but can play their classes effectively. I've done bleeding edge progression before, and I'm happy for now to just to raid 2/3 times a week for a few hours a night and do normal modes for now. If I get tired of wiping and dealing with the people in my guild, I'll leave, but for now I have fun with what we can accomplish and nobody in the guild is annoying or superterrible.
Phase 4 of Mimiron is not any more graphically intensive than any other phase.
Convenient, that the time when "computer problems" occur happens to be the very phase of the very fight where retards are revealed.
When it comes to people who are lagging, there are two types
Type 1) They don't usually lag, but occasionally do for no apparent reason.
These people aren't really lagging, they just fuck up and can't admit it.
Type 2) These people lag all the time. They might be pretty good players but they're constantly disconnecting and lagging.
Even if they are good, if they had any shred of decency, they'd realise they were holding the raid back and stop trying to raid until they got a decent computer or internet connection.
If someone's going to shit up on Phase 4 they're also going to shit up on Phase 2 because that's when the graphics ramp up with the missiles, missile targets, and his spray attack. My computer literally freezes when phase 2/4 starts for 10 seconds or so, and then goes into a 5 second per frame slideshow. (and this is only on 25 man for me by the way)
I'm one of the people in type 2 there: I tried to raid 25 man last week, saw my computer sucked at it and even though they invited me back (why, I don't know: I died on every Keepers fight due to avoidable damage because I had .25 fps and I said as much during the raid, including giving them the option of kicking me and they still didn't) and I declined because I don't want to be dragged along as dead weight. If they replaced me with someone with a good computer who healed one fourth as well as me in good contitions they'd probably still end up ahead.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
You're an example, then, of the "good" type of Type 2 person. Someone who knows their flaws with regards to their computer, and understands if the raid doesn't want to take them.
There are far too many bad Type 2s around, who, despite constant lag, disconnects, and framerate issues, throw a huge fit if they aren't invited, citing "The lag isn't my fault!!". Well dickhead, its not the guild's fault either, so fuck off.
I appreciate your opinion Dhal, but I guess I should have been clearer - the person dying in PH4 to barrage also as often dies in PH2, probably having something like the issues Opty has. Unfortunetly we can't replace this person usually because we have a lack of bodies available (or healers for that matter, which this person is) and he has in the past offered to sit due to his computer. But if we have no replacements it doesn't really matter if we make them sit.
I run WOW at 1680x1050, full graphics, on a a small 720 HDTV. Anywhere other than Dalaran I have 50+ FPS.
WOW is not a hard game to run.
But it has had some serious manufacturer and driver specific problems over its history.
Had a problem with an HD3850. Some weird esoteric registry tweak that was discovered after weeks and weeks of random crashes fixed it. This issue was to the point that many people with that and similar cards thought that it was the bios from the manufacturer that was the problem - this may be the case - but it didn't require a bios flas or RMA to fix.
Blizzard was, of course, unhelpful as nobody will ever directly suggest you alter you registry.
However, this bug never affected raiding or instances, it was only a problem in Dalaran and flying between too many zones, particularly ones with lots of snow.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited August 2009
Then there's type three:
Is on a friend's network and the friend, in his infinite boredom, has decided to start downloading porn as Hodir is pulled.
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Good to know the BOP trade grace period isn't working. We blew XT's loot letting people try for Needy and Greedy, and nobody could give it to the people it was meant for.
There's something silly about going into the new 25man raid instance and getting a ridiculously good caster dagger from a ridiculously easy boss.
It's worse with the 10 man - after all that work getting belts for all our casters, there's a slightly better hit/haste belt on a boss we oneshot plus two achievements.
Good to know the BOP trade grace period isn't working. We blew XT's loot letting people try for Needy and Greedy, and nobody could give it to the people it was meant for.
Maybe it's thinking that if nobody rolls for it, everybody's considered "eligible", but when there's a roll, there's one winner, and only that winner is considered "eligible". Or something like that.
Good to know the BOP trade grace period isn't working. We blew XT's loot letting people try for Needy and Greedy, and nobody could give it to the people it was meant for.
Maybe it's thinking that if nobody rolls for it, everybody's considered "eligible", but when there's a roll, there's one winner, and only that winner is considered "eligible". Or something like that.
Good to know the BOP trade grace period isn't working. We blew XT's loot letting people try for Needy and Greedy, and nobody could give it to the people it was meant for.
Maybe it's thinking that if nobody rolls for it, everybody's considered "eligible", but when there's a roll, there's one winner, and only that winner is considered "eligible". Or something like that.
Nope its broken.
It was working for us with the loot set to ML.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited August 2009
Accodring to the patch notes XT has been fixed.
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
It wasn't when they first posted their list of hot fixes. However, if it wasn't tonight, it should be fixed tomorrow.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited August 2009
8/5/09
* The weapon damage and armor of items dropped in the 5-man Coliseum Heroic version have been updated to match their item level.
* Using Braxley's Backyard Moonshine will no longer trigger the regurgitation animation.
* Wintergrasp Commendation and Commendation of Bravery can no longer be used inside any battlegrounds.
* Kel'Thuzad should no longer cause some players to disconnect during the encounter.
* Reginald Arcfire will no longer grant Horde players access to the Alliance auction house.
* Epic gem recipes are now available from the following vendors in Shattrath:
That was posted before we entered Ulduar tonight, and it was still broken.
Made it easy to get Nerf Scrapbots (25 player) though.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited August 2009
Well then Blizzard is wrong about their own product!
Ha cha cha cha cha
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Well then Blizzard is wrong about their own product!
Ha cha cha cha cha
Well, you missed this:
Keep in mind that some of these changes may not be active until after the realm has been restarted.
Which I was trying to refer to when I said if it wasn't fixed tonight, it'd be fixed tomorrow (they'll probably do rolling restarts early in the morning).
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Wait what- They don't have all the bosses in the game yet?
Yeah, remember the Sunwell boss unlockings?
At least you can do both 25 normal and 10 normal for a couple extra emblems (and gear that's still higher itemlevel than Ulduar-25).
You fight 1 boss each week, unlocking the next boss for next week. They aren't going to be patching in later bosses. That's just stupid.
This isn't a new major raid, per se, more like a ZA Raid, good loot but shorter than the major tiers.
Wow somehow...I missed this important detail.
:oops:
yesterday i couldn't get into htoc, but me and a few buddies ran reg toc, none of us knowing what the fuck we were doing
we wiped once, which wasn't fun, and it took 20 minutes to actually rez up, but the total experience was very fun. I loved having to react to the situation and figure out what was going on, making your own strategies. It's like playing a game with or without a guide. Sure if you use a guide you'll get through it faster, but i think doing it without one keeps you sharp and it makes the experience overall more exciting
were i running a 25 man i probably wouldn't risk the wipes, but for a 5man i think it was worth it
learning new bosses, for me, is one of the more exciting things in this game
/2c
I honestly like this, especially since my guild seems to be unable to successfully kill all the keepers in 10 man each week (we have too many people with ancient computers that seems to turn them from great players into 'oooh what is Mimiron doing with that spinning up thing oh wait I'm dead' due to horrible framerate issues) so instead we can go try the new boss in the coliseum and if we clear it we can go back to beating our heads in Ulduar. Or something like that... :?
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
Just a hint: If people die to stupid things and immediately go straight to the "lag" card, the vast majority of the time they are full of shit and just suck. If you have an entire guild of people doing this it means that one of them started it at one point and the rest of them caught on quickly that anything they ever do wrong is not their fault, it is that damn lag again. The sad part is those types of people are the least likely to ever actually get better since nobody ever calls them out on dumb playing, so there is no reason for them to actually play well.
my solution would be to say "I apologize if you are lagging, but we need to get through this content for the greater good of the guild. People that cause wipes will be replaced, no exceptions."
No.
You extend that lockout, and you miss a week's kill on any of the bosses already dead.
Say we clear up to General Vezax and want to work on his hardmode (we've already killed his hardmode long ago, but as a good example).
We don't manage to kill him Monday, but we want to work on him all next week. In that situation, we could choose to extend the lockout, and we'd have an entire another work to work on him.
Downside is, we'd only then get General and Yogg for that next week.
@ Peryton - We do call them out. When they only die to stupid shit on certain bosses (ATM, we kill Thorim and Freya fine, its Hodir and Mimiron causing issues) that cause the most graphical headaches for people on older PCs, then I'm leaning towards it being their older PCs. Note I didn't say lag, I said framerate issues. If you're getting single digit FPS and have to pan your camera on the ground and zoom in all the way then its going to be difficult to move out of barrage range. Generally we suffer the most computer related attrition in Phase 4 when there's so much shit flying around. Nobody is purposefully sucking, this is a 10 man guild and if you suck we don't take you to progression fights, or we call you out, tell you what you're doing wrong and help you to not do it anymore.
@ Cunty - 10 man guild. There are no replacements available 90% of the time. We generally have the same 7 people in there each week with a few different DPS/Healers in the remaining slots.
@ Both - Yeah, we have mostly people who aren't the best players in the world, but can play their classes effectively. I've done bleeding edge progression before, and I'm happy for now to just to raid 2/3 times a week for a few hours a night and do normal modes for now. If I get tired of wiping and dealing with the people in my guild, I'll leave, but for now I have fun with what we can accomplish and nobody in the guild is annoying or superterrible.
wouldn't that solve most framerate issues?
unless we're talking computers that don't even have a PCI-E slot, but if this is the case then I don't know if you should be raiding to begin with
i'm not saying people that don't have good computers shouldn't play wow, but don't pull other people down
not to mention you don't need a good computer for wow, you barely need a decent computer, it's wow. It's one of the lowest spec requirements of modern PC games
the minimum requirements on the side of the box are there for a reason, know what i mean?
I can't control the financial status of the people in my guild. =p
Isn't there also a possibility to un-extend it? So, if you extend it to kill Yogg and such, then un-extend it, wouldn't that give you that week's remaining days to work on the instance again?
I used to work at best buy (ugh) and there were plenty of people trying to buy graphics cards/ram for 10+ year old computers, it was a sight to behold
it's just amazing how cheap computers are now compared to what they used to be. You can get a capable desktop for 400 dollars nowadays. That blows my mind. Build it yourself? it's a joke how cheap a computer can get
not that everyone has money for computers, but it is important to note that a computer isn't really an accessory anymore, it's an integral part of modern society
as time goes on, it becomes less of a luxury and more of a necessity to have a decent computer
Yes, but only if you don't get re-saved to that ID after the reset. So you would still have to kill Yogg on say, Monday, even if you extended the ID as long as you don't go in Tuesday and save yourself on the extended ID again.
WOW is not a hard game to run.
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
Phase 4 of Mimiron is not any more graphically intensive than any other phase.
Convenient, that the time when "computer problems" occur happens to be the very phase of the very fight where retards are revealed.
When it comes to people who are lagging, there are two types
Type 1) They don't usually lag, but occasionally do for no apparent reason.
These people aren't really lagging, they just fuck up and can't admit it.
Type 2) These people lag all the time. They might be pretty good players but they're constantly disconnecting and lagging.
Even if they are good, if they had any shred of decency, they'd realise they were holding the raid back and stop trying to raid until they got a decent computer or internet connection.
I'm one of the people in type 2 there: I tried to raid 25 man last week, saw my computer sucked at it and even though they invited me back (why, I don't know: I died on every Keepers fight due to avoidable damage because I had .25 fps and I said as much during the raid, including giving them the option of kicking me and they still didn't) and I declined because I don't want to be dragged along as dead weight. If they replaced me with someone with a good computer who healed one fourth as well as me in good contitions they'd probably still end up ahead.
There are far too many bad Type 2s around, who, despite constant lag, disconnects, and framerate issues, throw a huge fit if they aren't invited, citing "The lag isn't my fault!!". Well dickhead, its not the guild's fault either, so fuck off.
Its just an unfortunate situation.
Had a problem with an HD3850. Some weird esoteric registry tweak that was discovered after weeks and weeks of random crashes fixed it. This issue was to the point that many people with that and similar cards thought that it was the bios from the manufacturer that was the problem - this may be the case - but it didn't require a bios flas or RMA to fix.
Blizzard was, of course, unhelpful as nobody will ever directly suggest you alter you registry.
However, this bug never affected raiding or instances, it was only a problem in Dalaran and flying between too many zones, particularly ones with lots of snow.
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Is on a friend's network and the friend, in his infinite boredom, has decided to start downloading porn as Hodir is pulled.
It's worse with the 10 man - after all that work getting belts for all our casters, there's a slightly better hit/haste belt on a boss we oneshot plus two achievements.
Nope its broken.
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It was working for us with the loot set to ML.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110152523&sid=1
Made it easy to get Nerf Scrapbots (25 player) though.
Ha cha cha cha cha
Well, you missed this:
Keep in mind that some of these changes may not be active until after the realm has been restarted.
Which I was trying to refer to when I said if it wasn't fixed tonight, it'd be fixed tomorrow (they'll probably do rolling restarts early in the morning).