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[WoW] Raiding is easy now but can you handle TWO Jormungar worms!?!

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  • LaurlunaLaurluna Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    End wrote: »
    Bigity wrote: »

    It isn't a good reference. There are 174 Fusion guilds right now.

    But there's only one Fusion guild that comes to mind.
    I'm fairly certain that people know whom I'm speaking of. If not, they're probably not going to post about it anyways. :rotate:

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  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
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  • douglydougly Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ishtaar wrote: »


    Suck up.

    dougly on
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  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    dougly wrote: »
    Ishtaar wrote: »


    Suck up.

    Hi Doug.

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  • Thomase1984Thomase1984 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So our DPS is definitly holding us back from Hard Mode COT. We did some beasts last night and got Gormok to 30%.. then the worms came out!

    Cheer up, Buttercup. Our dps is holding us back from Anub 25.

    WHAT? Yes, the curve greatly takes a nose dive after dpser #6...

    7.5
    7.2
    6.9
    6.9
    6.7
    6.6
    4.1... wha?

    Just to accentuate the point, we actually had a mage after a vezax wipe ask...

    "Should I cast spells?"


    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

    His wws at the end of the kill had his wand damage at his second highest output. 1200 dps. For fuck sakes.

    On another note, our foray (finally) into Ulduar 10 man hardmodes is having fun on Hodir HM... which actually isn't going to badly. we were about 3-4% away except for the fact that two of our decent dpsers decided to come up lame with a 3.5 and 3.9k dps mark through all encounters.

    Edit: What I wouldn't give for a good ret paladin. Having no dps buffs outside flasks, food, pots and motw makes this a pain in the ass. I also just realized that I didn't bother having WF down infavour of wrath. Bleh.

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  • EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So our DPS is definitly holding us back from Hard Mode COT. We did some beasts last night and got Gormok to 30%.. then the worms came out!

    Just to accentuate the point, we actually had a mage after a vezax wipe ask...

    "Should I cast spells?"

    Back when we completely split up ranged into two groups, I had to ask that question once when our side didn't get a single shadowcrash.

    (The strat of splitting but sharing the same shadowcrash works much better.)

    End on
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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So our DPS is definitly holding us back from Hard Mode COT. We did some beasts last night and got Gormok to 30%.. then the worms came out!

    Cheer up, Buttercup. Our dps is holding us back from Anub 25.

    WHAT? Yes, the curve greatly takes a nose dive after dpser #6...

    7.5
    7.2
    6.9
    6.9
    6.7
    6.6
    4.1... wha?
    Those numbers look better than my guild's, which somehow managed to down Anub after a lot of wipes.

    forty on
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  • TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So our DPS is definitly holding us back from Hard Mode COT. We did some beasts last night and got Gormok to 30%.. then the worms came out!

    Cheer up, Buttercup. Our dps is holding us back from Anub 25.

    WHAT? Yes, the curve greatly takes a nose dive after dpser #6...

    7.5
    7.2
    6.9
    6.9
    6.7
    6.6
    4.1... wha?

    Just to accentuate the point, we actually had a mage after a vezax wipe ask...

    "Should I cast spells?"


    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

    His wws at the end of the kill had his wand damage at his second highest output. 1200 dps. For fuck sakes.

    On another note, our foray (finally) into Ulduar 10 man hardmodes is having fun on Hodir HM... which actually isn't going to badly. we were about 3-4% away except for the fact that two of our decent dpsers decided to come up lame with a 3.5 and 3.9k dps mark through all encounters.

    Edit: What I wouldn't give for a good ret paladin. Having no dps buffs outside flasks, food, pots and motw makes this a pain in the ass. I also just realized that I didn't bother having WF down infavour of wrath. Bleh.


    This is us too. Our top DPS are only breaking 5.5k... then it jumps to about 4.5-> 3.5

    What do you do with snobolds not on healers?

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited September 2009
    I hope we can try some hard modes in Uld10 soon, because this is getting too damn easy now.

    Echo on
  • TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    If you can pull off heartbreaker you can do most of the hard modes.

    Kill Xt's heart! Go!

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  • LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    FUCK

    HEROIC 10

    CHAMPIONS.




    :x

    Ledneh on
  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Either my 10-man is completely awesome or we've gotten really lucky with group comp for heroic FC 10. One-shot both weeks. Yet another guild group spent like 20 of their attempts wiping on it last week and eventually gave up.

    riz on
  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    riz wrote: »
    Either my 10-man is completely awesome or we've gotten really lucky with group comp for heroic FC 10. One-shot both weeks. Yet another guild group spent like 20 of their attempts wiping on it last week and eventually gave up.

    The enemy comp can make such a huge difference. This week, my guild oneshot everything in ToGC except faction champions. They got three healrs, rogue, DK, warrior and got raped in bad ways. Another guild had all their wipes on beasts but got no healers on champions and still hit tribute to insanty. Our 25 man normal only had one healer this week, too, and it was so much easier than any other night with those fucks.

    Hevach on
  • LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    We had hunter, enh shaman, DK, resto druid, holy paladin, and (our only saving grace and it was a pretty minor one) shadow priest. We didn't stand a fucking chance.

    And now the raid leader is pondering giving up the friday 10 raid completely because the tuesday 10 raid never has this problem and clearly it's 100% our fault UGH

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  • Monkey Ball WarriorMonkey Ball Warrior A collection of mediocre hats Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Our dps has gotten amazingly better in the past month, I have to say. Between the emblem changes and getting more consistant kills on bosses further and further into ulduar, I have to guess our gear is just getting better. We're up to hodir at this point, got him down once last week, but this week, even when we kept the whole raid up the whole time, we still hit up on the enrage timer. As I understand it, the debuff stacks sometimes fell off the boss, which i guess means people weren't breaking out npc's fast enough? or something. As much as I am happy that our dps has gotten better, it seems like it still not good enough.

    We're not even thinking about ToC at this point yet.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    when it comes to Hodir, if you're anywhere near the enrage timer, its not a case of DPS gear, its a case of DPS not being very good at utilizing the encounter buffs like Storm Power and the beams of light.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Our dps has gotten amazingly better in the past month, I have to say. Between the emblem changes and getting more consistant kills on bosses further and further into ulduar, I have to guess our gear is just getting better. We're up to hodir at this point, got him down once last week, but this week, even when we kept the whole raid up the whole time, we still hit up on the enrage timer. As I understand it, the debuff stacks sometimes fell off the boss, which i guess means people weren't breaking out npc's fast enough? or something. As much as I am happy that our dps has gotten better, it seems like it still not good enough.

    We're not even thinking about ToC at this point yet.

    Most of ToC is easier than the latter parts of Ulduar.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ishtaar wrote: »

    I don't know if I was in this Fusion guild or not, but at launch of classic WoW I was a part of a guild called Fusion on the Blackhand realm. Blackhand is a launch server, and the Fusion on that server was born very close to release. I don't know if they split up or changed servers or what...

    I was playing an Alliance druid at the time. As some of you might recall from classic WoW, druids only had 1 viable role in raids: healing. And it sucked, because HoTs didn't stack. That means in a raid of 40 people, where you likely had anywhere from 3-6 druid healers, only one of those druids got to cast more than one spell. Most druids just casted Nature's Touch over and over which was pretty much the suckiest thing ever. At least paladins have 2 buttons to push.

    The moral of the story is, I hated raid healing on my druid and left Blackhand to pursue a career on Arthas as a Horde. I have no idea what actually became of my guild, Fusion of Blackhand.

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  • SenshiSenshi BALLING OUT OF CONTROL WavefrontRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ledneh wrote: »
    FUCK

    HEROIC 10

    CHAMPIONS.




    :x

    Senshi on
  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited September 2009
    Champion fight is like a bunch of PVP wankers suddenly coming into your raid and shitting in your face.

    Echo on
  • ArkadyArkady Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ugh firefighter.

    Arkady on
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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Champion fight is like a bunch of PVP wankers suddenly coming into your raid and shitting in your face.

    Especially given you have king dick Varian Wrynn sitting up there yelling out "Worthless Scrub!" when you die. Not sure if Garrosh is as much of a prick to Alliance raids.

    -SPI- on
  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Garrosh yells "overpowered" constantly. It's annoying.

    Also, my guild is getting better and better at the Champions fight. It's pretty much not a problem at all for us anymore. On heroic 10man last night we did take something like 5 tries to figure out the best strategy for the group we got, but comparing that to the 20+ tries we used on it last week, it's a vast improvement.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited September 2009
    Oh fuck you Blizzard. Get your fucking PVP out of my PVE!

    Disc priest and resto shaman, and a ret pally that HoP's whoever we try to nuke. Gaaaah.

    Warlock with felhunter that's eating buffs and silencing everything. Moonkin that spams cyclone.

    Fuck you Blizzard.

    Echo on
  • EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    It's annoying, because it doesn't even play like pvp at all for me.

    End on
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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited September 2009
    FUCK fucking fights where the fucking enemies have more fucking crowd control than you do.

    Echo on
  • EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    It doesn't help their crowd control doesn't have diminishing returns. It only follows the initial maximum duration.

    Our only dispeller died in 10man last week, and I got chain sheeped 3 times in a row for the full duration each before the mage got bored and stopped CC'd me.

    Edit: Wait a fucking second. I think that was 25man. Fuck our raid composition was bad.

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  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah it's like "PVP but hey we're letting the other side cheat too."

    riz on
  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    The twouble with faction twampions is that they are far more punishing of awkward raid makeups due to the necessity of CCs on them and dispels on your party. Which is a radical shift from the awkward-friendliness of all other WotLK raids.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited September 2009
    Whoever designed that fight needs a swift kick in the junk.

    Echo on
  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    the faction champions should have been a fixed enemy composition.

    not this random shit.

    we took 20+ goes to kill normal mode 25man Faction Champs due to fuckmuppetry last week.
    This week we twoshot them on heroic.

    what the FUCK

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    JAEF wrote: »
    The twouble with faction twampions is that they are far more punishing of awkward raid makeups due to the necessity of CCs on them and dispels on your party. Which is a radical shift from the awkward-friendliness of all other WotLK raids.

    The only reason we have so much trouble with faction champions is because our only real CCer is a Mage, and possibly our Feral Druid who normally tanks and has no casting gear to speak of so controlling the melee (which is an absolute necessity on heroic) is a fucking impossible task.

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  • CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Man, why does my ret pally CC (forget the name) only last 5 fucking seconds in that fight, too?

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Because every CC only last 5 seconds.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Technically speaking every CC will last 10 seconds at first (unless it has a lower maximum duration), but the odds of one of the wankers dispelling it before it reaches that full duration are very very high at the start of the fight.

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  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Cokebotle wrote: »
    Man, why does my ret pally CC (forget the name) only last 5 fucking seconds in that fight, too?

    It's all PVP duration. Except they get limitless trinkets and seem able to apply several DoTs/HoTs within one GCD and so on and so forth.

    We by some miracle managed to kill them on our second attempt tonight after several horrible rape attempts the other night. Assigning specific people to lock down/kite specific mobs seemed to be key. Plus warlocks/other squishies I think finally learned to run away from the bad men.

    Then we spent like an hour wiping to Val'kyr Twins with a badly misinterpreted strat from Tankspot. Sigh.

    riz on
  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Use the boost to get through.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2009
    The difference between having wounding poison one week and not having it another was so fucking huge.

    An MS debuff makes the champion fight so much easier.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    JAEF wrote: »
    Use the boost to get through.

    i approve of this reference

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  • BikkstahBikkstah Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    We get the same comp on 25 man every week it seems. Lucky or fixed?

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